4.3 A Bar Anyone ?

[dave.m]

See link-

http://motors.search.ebay.co.uk/rav-4_Toyo...10428QQsbrsrtZd

[PinkMinkee]

would this fit a 2004 rav by any chance :)

[dave.m]

Hi Jan, unfortunately it would not. But keep an eye on E Bay as they come up a lot ;)

(or ask parts king to price one, but it is expensive).

[PinkMinkee]

cheers dave :)

[daveh_rav4]

Hi Dave

Do you know who was selling these 'A' Bars, the link seems to have gone from the eBay listing? I did look when you first put it up... I thought I had bookmarked it, but I can't find it now. If I remember they were for the Rav4 4.1

Regards...

DaveH

See link-

http://motors.search.ebay.co.uk/rav-4_Toyo...10428QQsbrsrtZd

[PinkMinkee]

its for a 2006 rav dave :)

[dave.m]

If you scroll through the pages, there is one for a 4.1 but its the metal type :(

Just my opinion but watch this type opinion says the law might change to ban them.

Try the link -

http://motors.search.ebay.co.uk/rav-4_Toyo...10428QQsbrsrtZd

[dave.m]

its for a 2006 rav dave :)

Hi Jan, keeping a close eye, remember they go quick for the 4.2's, seem to be very popular ;)

[sywy]

Damn, I put it in my 'watched list' and completely forgot about it. Someone ('richiezook') got a real bargain, as it went for £104 + £20 p&p.

[daveh_rav4]

Thanks Dave... found it :) It was couple of pages down on the E-Bay Rav4 link you gave...

The 'A' bar looks nice... my rav4 is metallic silver with black livery, so this black powder coated bar should look quite nice. I want to 'beef' up my Rav4's looks, some claim they look a bit of a lady's car! This is probably a well trodden thread here,eh!

I must admit I thought that UK law was changed last year banning the 'new' sales of 'A' bars? So I was quite surprised to see this one for sale! I will go search the net... but does anyone have any update on the current/proposed legislation on the 'A' bar situation? I know that lots of company's are marketing pedestrian safety 'crush bars'... I would prefer one of these but can't find any for the Rav4 4.1...

Dave

If you scroll through the pages, there is one for a 4.1 but its the metal type :(

Just my opinion but watch this type opinion says the law might change to ban them.

Try the link -

http://motors.search.ebay.co.uk/rav-4_Toyo...10428QQsbrsrtZd

[daveh_rav4]

Okay... I googled the net on 'Bull Bar' legislation... I found this interesting post by a chap called 'Thommo'

"This is my understanding.

After the 25th May 2007 it is illegal to sell, or make available for sale any "Frontal Protections System" as it is now known, without an EU approval certificate. (definition of FPS is any structure or structures weighing more than 0.5kg fitted to the front of any N1 or M1 class vehicle above and or below the OE bumper intended to protect the external surface of the vehicle) M1 and N1 class is any passenger vehicle which carries less than 9 people and any light goods vehicle less than 3.5 tonnes.

It is NOT illegal to already have one fitted to a vehicle registered before this date.

It is LEGAL for you to buy one, if the person selling it to you had it thier possession and can show ownership, i.e. reciept for payment before May 25th and fit it to your car ONLY if it was registered before may 25th.

If your vehicle is registered after may 25th You can ONLY fit an EU approved bar.

It is not the consumer who will be prosecuted, it is the seller under the general saftey of goods regulations (UK law)

Winch bumpers are OK if they do not have an FPS attached, or if they do the FPS Must have a certificate of conformity and be tested to the new regs.

in 2010 it will become part of the MoT test that all FPS's fitted to vehicles must have an EU approval and be "e" marked, or the vehicle will fail the MoT

Landrover have Approved abrs for the Defender and Disco 3 and Rangerover, but not the Freelander.

If anyone needs part numbers let me know as they seem to have forgotten to tell any dealers.

We know the numbers because we make them.

We also make a legal bar for Freelander from 04-06. (www.endura-fps.com)

I think that covers it but if anyone has any more questions I'd be happy to answer them best I can."

Mainly related to Landrovers... but it seems from what this guy reasoned... ALL none approved 'A' bars or 'Bull' bars fitted to vehicle will mean an MOT failure as from 2010...! That means even ones fitted to vehicles now.

DaveH...

Thanks Dave... found it :) It was couple of pages down on the E-Bay Rav4 link you gave...

The 'A' bar looks nice... my rav4 is metallic silver with black livery, so this black powder coated bar should look quite nice. I want to 'beef' up my Rav4's looks, some claim they look a bit of a lady's car! This is probably a well trodden thread here,eh!

I must admit I thought that UK law was changed last year banning the 'new' sales of 'A' bars? So I was quite surprised to see this one for sale! I will go search the net... but does anyone have any update on the current/proposed legislation on the 'A' bar situation? I know that lots of company's are marketing pedestrian safety 'crush bars'... I would prefer one of these but can't find any for the Rav4 4.1...

Dave

If you scroll through the pages, there is one for a 4.1 but its the metal type :(

Just my opinion but watch this type opinion says the law might change to ban them.

Try the link -

http://motors.search.ebay.co.uk/rav-4_Toyo...10428QQsbrsrtZd

[dave.m]

Damn, I put it in my 'watched list' and completely forgot about it. Someone ('richiezook') got a real bargain, as it went for £104 + £20 p&p.

Simon, try asking Kingo if he can give his 10 % off the Pentagon Toyota price, they are allways on E Bay

[dave.m]

Okay... I googled the net on 'Bull Bar' legislation... I found this interesting post by a chap called 'Thommo'

DaveH...

Dave, Thommo is a member on here, he done a couple of interesting threads on the subject with photos and links.

Do a search on members, find Thommo then view his threads.

[sywy]

Simon, try asking Kingo if he can give his 10 % off the Pentagon Toyota price, they are allways on E Bay

Not really desperate for one, but would have bought at £100ish!!

[anchorman]

When are they banning big exhausts?

[Fujisan]

When are they banning big exhausts?

It's in the pipeline!

[PinkMinkee]

pmsl

[Fujisan]

pmsl

Thought you be out racking up the early evening miles, enjoying your RAV

Glad you like your RAV so much When are we going to see some pictures? :D

[anchorman]

When are they banning big exhausts?

It's in the pipeline!

REALLY?

Tell me again I just like to read it. I want to print it and put it under the blue led wipers of those **@*!! that wake me up every morning when I'm on lates. Will the punishment for non conforming be death by agony?

Anyway, tell me again................

[Fujisan]

When are they banning big exhausts?

It's in the pipeline!

REALLY?

Tell me again I just like to read it. I want to print it and put it under the blue led wipers of those **@*!! that wake me up every morning when I'm on lates. Will the punishment for non conforming be death by agony?

Anyway, tell me again................

OK....it's in the pipe - line! But I think we've exhausted that joke now

[bothwell_buyer]

Weel ma man.....ma RAV has a custom designed straight thru exhaust stainless steel and aiftr whit ah paid fur it theres nae way its cuming aff!

Its performance enhancing ---a bit like the bldg trains that plunder up an doon the mainline jist 2oo yards frae ma hoose cerrying coal n cement an other things whit wake ye up....then oan a Sunday aw the cretinous train drivers sound the horn at the wee guy cutting the grass at oor local station.

Weel, ahm gettin ma ain back..... ah've bocht a triple horn set fur the RAV. Noo ah've found ye've tae tak the front bumper aff tae fit em! Aye that'll be richt....they gae where ah pit them wance ah've tapped intae the circuit....

Loud exhausts? Ye'd better bring yer hearing aid wi nae batteries tae any meet then !!

Decibels wur invented by sivil servants wi nae concern fur the onywun. Ah demand a public vote oan this.

[anchorman]

Weel ma man.....ma RAV has a custom designed straight thru exhaust stainless steel and aiftr whit ah paid fur it theres nae way its cuming aff!

Well we can ease up on the wall cos when the sheriff or whatever you have up there catches you he will throw you in the clink (pending death by agony) and we'll change it for a bog standard one while your in.

Its performance enhancing ---a bit like the bldg trains that plunder up an doon the mainline jist 2oo yards frae ma hoose cerrying coal n cement an other things whit wake ye up....then oan a Sunday aw the cretinous train drivers sound the horn at the wee guy cutting the grass at oor local station.

Its green transport - you should be pleased that you don't have juggernauts rumbling past your door. In any case I'm with you on the horn thing. If yer wee grass cuttin man can't hear a 3000hp diesel and 2000 tons of cement coming he deservse to get run over

Weel, ahm gettin ma ain back..... ah've bocht a triple horn set fur the RAV. Noo ah've found ye've tae tak the front bumper aff tae fit em! Aye that'll be richt....they gae where ah pit them wance ah've tapped intae the circuit....

Loud exhausts? Ye'd better bring yer hearing aid wi nae batteries tae any meet then !!

We'll find you a hotel in Widnes and if you bring your caravan we can convert it into a live satellite command centre but turn the volume down on you.

Decibels wur invented by sivil servants wi nae concern fur the onywun. Ah demand a public vote oan this.

Overruled.

[Parts-King]

OK....it's in the pipe - line! But I think we've exhausted that joke now

I doubt it, you watch, it will all be a pipe dream and everything will go up in smoke, I'm baffled by it all, but won't allow myself to be boxed in, my cat would'nt allow it

I wanted to slip in a muffler or two but have had one too many

Kingo

[shcm]

Kingo,

that certainly isn't going to silence the lot on here!

[bothwell_buyer]

Unfortunemont, I do have juggernauts rumblin by ma door....ma back door. the back garden gaes doon tae the M74 waur 5 door RAVs blunder by towing a caravan....