Clutch Squeak ! Options

[Mick24]

The clutch release arm pivot also squeeks like a bas*ard on the higher mileage one's.


Mick

When the gearbox is removed and the release arm pivot/support is cleaned and greased with Copper-Slip, the noise shouldn't come back
for the life of the clutch (if a new clutch assembly is fitted at the same time).






Mick

[Captain_hook12]

thanks for the info, mick, what's the typical life of the clutch system?

[Mick24]

The standard clutch is a bit fragile when driven spirited/previous unknown history/hard launch's etc etc, so difficult to put a life span on them.
Mine is due up for replacement soon as the car is driven hard most days and have just clocked up 54K.
Will be looking at getting an Exedy uprated clutch and lightened/balanced OE flywheel for it nearer xmas time.

Mick

[s.illes79]

I found a solution in the yaris forum:

http://toyotaownersclub.com/forums/index.p...st&p=230204

just sprayed some wd40 in the hole and it stopped squeaking

[movistargsxr]

I found a solution in the yaris forum:

http://toyotaownersclub.com/forums/index.p...st&p=230204

just sprayed some wd40 in the hole and it stopped squeaking

thanks for that, must try that at the weekend! Mine is squeaking really badly at the moment

[movistargsxr]

Folks, thought i'd report back after seeing Mr T today.

Briefly: WTF!!!

In detail: costed me £43.70 just to get the diagnosis, basically, Mr T reckoned noise came from the ball & socket joint on clutch release arm, and would require gearbox removal and joint lub. estimate cost: £526.13, yes, that's right, 500+ pounds!!!*%^$*&*&_)

Although they said the clutch is in good condition, but Mr T reckoned since it costs so much to remove the gearbox, it would perhaps make sense to replace with a new clutch, at £191.76, with no extra labour cost, maybe a new clutch plate: £60.76, and what about clutch CVR.ASSY for £69.71, and hopefully also clutch release bearing £36.28.


many years ago, when i just passed my test, i had a 3 year old Vauxhall Corsa, i managed to destroy the gearbox after 6 months driving, but it costed me £150 to get a new one at a Vauxhall dealership, that included the labour, has Mr T not realized everything they offer is ridiculously overpriced, for crying out loud!! really been put off buying another Toyota!! now i have to put up with the noise, thank you Mr T!!

I finally booked the rolla into Mr. T as I can't stand the squeaky stiff clutch pedal anymore! I really don't want the problem to return, so i'm hoping they will sort it for good. It's going in Friday morning so we will see what price they come up with to fix it should be good for a laugh!

[Captain_hook12]

Folks, thought i'd report back after seeing Mr T today.

Briefly: WTF!!!

In detail: costed me £43.70 just to get the diagnosis, basically, Mr T reckoned noise came from the ball & socket joint on clutch release arm, and would require gearbox removal and joint lub. estimate cost: £526.13, yes, that's right, 500+ pounds!!!*%^$*&*&_)

Although they said the clutch is in good condition, but Mr T reckoned since it costs so much to remove the gearbox, it would perhaps make sense to replace with a new clutch, at £191.76, with no extra labour cost, maybe a new clutch plate: £60.76, and what about clutch CVR.ASSY for £69.71, and hopefully also clutch release bearing £36.28.


many years ago, when i just passed my test, i had a 3 year old Vauxhall Corsa, i managed to destroy the gearbox after 6 months driving, but it costed me £150 to get a new one at a Vauxhall dealership, that included the labour, has Mr T not realized everything they offer is ridiculously overpriced, for crying out loud!! really been put off buying another Toyota!! now i have to put up with the noise, thank you Mr T!!

I finally booked the rolla into Mr. T as I can't stand the squeaky stiff clutch pedal anymore! I really don't want the problem to return, so i'm hoping they will sort it for good. It's going in Friday morning so we will see what price they come up with to fix it should be good for a laugh!

yes mate, do report back how you getting on, i am at the breaking point also! still feel strongly about Mr T charging more than half grand for fixing such a simple problem. does anyone know if an independent dealer would be able to do this?

[nrgizerbunny]

mine is squeaking, and i'm pretty sure its the release bearing pivot. in a thread on here a while ago someone said it was the master cylinder, i don't see how that could squeak!

The clutch actually only wears when you have a speed mismatch (ie when you change gear). if you drive on a motorway in a constant 6th gear, you won't even trouble the clutch.

my 2p worth.

As an interim measure take the boot off and spray with high temperature lube.

[molveees]

What works better than the wd40? Use the motor bike chain lube. Its the best & you could almost universally apply this anywhere on your Tsport where greasing is a requirement. The beauty is that It is a "Spray-on" Job for those hard to reach places & very runny at the beginning but once the evaporation of solvent has occurred this will stick like anything & will never come off your cylinders/moving parts etc & keeps them forever lubed. Brilliant Stuff for quelling those squeaks & driving it far into narrow spaces.

[farhanali89]

what about white lithium grease? its a grease that usuallly doesnt just vanish.

[FoxX]

I found a solution in the yaris forum:

http://toyotaownersclub.com/forums/index.p...st&p=230204

just sprayed some wd40 in the hole and it stopped squeaking

Just did what Silles suggested here at the weekend and i've not had a squeek all week, was difficult to lube though as I could only just about get the can of WD40 between the radiator and the front of the gearbox

Top stuff! before i'd been lubing in the totally wrong place oops, that squeek noise travels a long way - I thought it was coming from somewhere under the footwell.

[Mick24]

Aerosol Graphite grease works well but whatever you use - use a little of it and carefully - if it gets on the clutch then its gearbox out time to replace the clutch.


Mick

[s.illes79]

I found a solution in the yaris forum:

http://toyotaownersclub.com/forums/index.p...st&p=230204

just sprayed some wd40 in the hole and it stopped squeaking

Just did what Silles suggested here at the weekend and i've not had a squeek all week, was difficult to lube though as I could only just about get the can of WD40 between the radiator and the front of the gearbox

Top stuff! before i'd been lubing in the totally wrong place oops, that squeek noise travels a long way - I thought it was coming from somewhere under the footwell.

it didn't last me for a long time, the squeaking is back again. I have to find a better lubricant ...

[movistargsxr]

mine is squeaking, and i'm pretty sure its the release bearing pivot. in a thread on here a while ago someone said it was the master cylinder, i don't see how that could squeak!

The clutch actually only wears when you have a speed mismatch (ie when you change gear). if you drive on a motorway in a constant 6th gear, you won't even trouble the clutch.

my 2p worth.

As an interim measure take the boot off and spray with high temperature lube.

As mentioned, i'm taking the car into Mr. T on Friday.

Should I say to Mr. T that it could be the release bearing pivot or master cylinder or let him figure it out for himself? Im just thinking that the longer he spends looking at the car, the more its going to cost me! Although if I do tell him will he not bother looking at it and just say that i have to replace both parts?

Comments on this would be welcome please

[movistargsxr]

mine is squeaking, and i'm pretty sure its the release bearing pivot. in a thread on here a while ago someone said it was the master cylinder, i don't see how that could squeak!

The clutch actually only wears when you have a speed mismatch (ie when you change gear). if you drive on a motorway in a constant 6th gear, you won't even trouble the clutch.

my 2p worth.

As an interim measure take the boot off and spray with high temperature lube.

I mentioned a few weeks ago that my clutch pedal was getting very squeaky every time it was operated. It had also got very stiff. Without doing any work on it myself I booked it into Mr. T on Friday. I did not mention what I thought the problem would be, I left him figure it out for himself. After about 20 minutes of waiting the in showroom I was told the following:

It's the clutch master cylinder that is causing the problem. The noise has been resonating through into the cabin from the engine bay. This inspection was free and I returned on Saturday after ordering the master cylinder. Got the master cylinder replaced which took about an hour and a half.

The Verdict:
Although expensive, I am 100% satisfied with the results. It is like having a new clutch. The operation of the clutch pedal is extremely smooth and quiet with no squeaking! The clutch has never been so good since buying the car a year ago.

The Cost:
I don't have the receipt with me but I should have it tomorrow. It roughly breaks down as follows (from memory):

Clutch master cylinder €120
Workshop consumables: €7.50
Disposal of old cylinder €5
Labour €97.50

Total: €230

Which is around £206 sterling







I hope this helps, it was definitely worth the investment!

[Captain_hook12]

mine is squeaking, and i'm pretty sure its the release bearing pivot. in a thread on here a while ago someone said it was the master cylinder, i don't see how that could squeak!

The clutch actually only wears when you have a speed mismatch (ie when you change gear). if you drive on a motorway in a constant 6th gear, you won't even trouble the clutch.

my 2p worth.

As an interim measure take the boot off and spray with high temperature lube.

I mentioned a few weeks ago that my clutch pedal was getting very squeaky every time it was operated. It had also got very stiff. Without doing any work on it myself I booked it into Mr. T on Friday. I did not mention what I thought the problem would be, I left him figure it out for himself. After about 20 minutes of waiting the in showroom I was told the following:

It's the clutch master cylinder that is causing the problem. The noise has been resonating through into the cabin from the engine bay. This inspection was free and I returned on Saturday after ordering the master cylinder. Got the master cylinder replaced which took about an hour and a half.

The Verdict:
Although expensive, I am 100% satisfied with the results. It is like having a new clutch. The operation of the clutch pedal is extremely smooth and quiet with no squeaking! The clutch has never been so good since buying the car a year ago.

The Cost:
I don't have the receipt with me but I should have it tomorrow. It roughly breaks down as follows (from memory):

Clutch master cylinder €120
Workshop consumables: €7.50
Disposal of old cylinder €5
Labour €97.50

Total: €230

Which is around £206 sterling







I hope this helps, it was definitely worth the investment!

Well done!

Unfortunately, Mr T does not inspect for free in the UK, and they did not mention master cylinder at all when i went to see them! what should i do? listen to Mr T or go ahead and change master cylinder? any suggestions on where to order these?

Thanks

[andycam06]

mine is squeaking, and i'm pretty sure its the release bearing pivot. in a thread on here a while ago someone said it was the master cylinder, i don't see how that could squeak!

The clutch actually only wears when you have a speed mismatch (ie when you change gear). if you drive on a motorway in a constant 6th gear, you won't even trouble the clutch.

my 2p worth.

As an interim measure take the boot off and spray with high temperature lube.

I mentioned a few weeks ago that my clutch pedal was getting very squeaky every time it was operated. It had also got very stiff. Without doing any work on it myself I booked it into Mr. T on Friday. I did not mention what I thought the problem would be, I left him figure it out for himself. After about 20 minutes of waiting the in showroom I was told the following:

It's the clutch master cylinder that is causing the problem. The noise has been resonating through into the cabin from the engine bay. This inspection was free and I returned on Saturday after ordering the master cylinder. Got the master cylinder replaced which took about an hour and a half.

The Verdict:
Although expensive, I am 100% satisfied with the results. It is like having a new clutch. The operation of the clutch pedal is extremely smooth and quiet with no squeaking! The clutch has never been so good since buying the car a year ago.

The Cost:
I don't have the receipt with me but I should have it tomorrow. It roughly breaks down as follows (from memory):

Clutch master cylinder €120
Workshop consumables: €7.50
Disposal of old cylinder €5
Labour €97.50

Total: €230

Which is around £206 sterling







I hope this helps, it was definitely worth the investment!

i too have this problem, i tryed wd40 on the clutch in the footwell, which actually seemed to work for about 2 days, its amazing that you think its only your car untill you read these threads, do you really believe 230 was well spent, would you recommend it to others with a squeky clutch? did you say Mr.T replaced it for you on a saturday, what garage is that, non in my area work saturdays, lazy gits

[Big_g]

Just to clarify for people incase there becomes confusion. The Toyota's can squeak from BOTH areas. The master cylinder and also clutch pivot point so make sure you have YOUR noise diagnosed (sp) first before just jumpin out and buying the cheapest thing thinking it will fix it

[movistargsxr]

Just to clarify for people incase there becomes confusion. The Toyota's can squeak from BOTH areas. The master cylinder and also clutch pivot point so make sure you have YOUR noise diagnosed (sp) first before just jumpin out and buying the cheapest thing thinking it will fix it

Yes, that's correct, the squeak from operating the clutch pedal could be caused by either a faulty clutch master cylinder or the clutch release bearing pivot point! It could also be neither of these parts. Replacing the clutch master cylinder corrected the problem with my car but it may not solve anything on another corolla!



andycam06
I also tried spraying WD-40 in the footwell in the past. The only result was a car smelling of WD-40!

I do believe it was money well spent. Think about how many times you change gear every day? Although I do alot of mileage As well as the noise really irritating me everytime I changed gear it was also embarrassing when I had friends in the car. Although I have been told I have OCD when my rolla is involved! I do like to keep it clean!

The cylinder is going to cost €120 (unless you buy a spurious one) so getting labour for around €100 isn't too bad. As I mentioned above, it may fix the problem on your car or it may not. It is impossible to tell without an examination. The garage where I got it done is Macroom Motor Services Toyota (www.macroommotors.com)

Captain_hook12
Thanks for the reply. The garage was recommended to me by a friend and I was surprised that they didn't charge anything for the inspection. Although the car industry is suffering very badly in Ireland at the moment (we have an incompetent government which has hit the industry hard) and every garage that has survived is really trying to hold on to its customers. You could change the master cylinder but then if it doesn't correct the problem you will have wasted £200. If you could get a spurious master cylinder cheaply and befriend a mechanic it might be a cheaper option and not hurt as much if it doesn't solve the problem?


If you need to get the part number for the master cylinder for your car (mine may be different as it's a diesel) then enter your chassis number at

http://www.toyodiy.com/parts/q.html


The other option is to go with what your Toyota dealer said, but does the squeaking annoy you enough to warrant spending £500?

Sorry I can't help further