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Oct 9 2008, 05:09 PM
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Advanced Club Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Registered Member Posts: 132 Joined: 13-May 07 Member No.: 39862 Car Model:AURIS 1.6 LUX MMT 2008 Location:ISRAEL |
I have been driving my multi mode for all of a day now and whilst I haven't tried or experienced the gear shifting down problem, what I have noticed is that gearing up is extremely neck jerking. I mea that literally. It's almost as if the car flatlines and takes a couple of seconds to decide whether it needs to change gears or not. All whilst accelerating. I am only hoping this 'jerkiness' is as a result of the car's newness and that once it is worn in, it will be a smoother ride. The best way is to drive the MM in Manual Mode and use the gear paddles freely even going up and down two steps ( two quickly clicks) - from 2th to 4th or from 3th to 5th - or to slowdown from 5th to 3th or from 4th to 2th in curves uphills or downhills, it is more sporty driving ( like "Porsche" ) and more safety too. I do most of the time and it is SUPER |
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Oct 9 2008, 08:15 PM
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New Member Group: Registered Member Posts: 5 Joined: 1-August 08 Member No.: 63654 Car Model:1.6 VVTi E-mode T-spirit Location:Nottingham |
I have been driving my multi mode for all of a day now and whilst I haven't tried or experienced the gear shifting down problem, what I have noticed is that gearing up is extremely neck jerking. I mea that literally. It's almost as if the car flatlines and takes a couple of seconds to decide whether it needs to change gears or not. All whilst accelerating. I am only hoping this 'jerkiness' is as a result of the car's newness and that once it is worn in, it will be a smoother ride. The best way is to drive the MM in Manual Mode and use the gear paddles freely even going up and down two steps ( two quickly clicks) - from 2th to 4th or from 3th to 5th - or to slowdown from 5th to 3th or from 4th to 2th in curves uphills or downhills, it is more sporty driving ( like "Porsche" ) and more safety too. I do most of the time and it is SUPER Today I tried driving this way too and still it slumps taking a few seconds before changing. |
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Mar 13 2009, 11:42 PM
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New Member Group: Registered Member Posts: 1 Joined: 13-March 09 Member No.: 74806 Car Model:Auris Location:Huddersfield |
I have owned my Auris " Multimode " for 12 months and to be honest it is a pain in the rear, I have driven cars for over 40 years manual and automatic gear-boxes, so I thought when after a test drive I would get use to this new ! mulitmode gearbox, but my in my opinion (MY), it is a pain in the rectum, a prime example, the Paddle Shift, OK if you are going in a straight line ! but useless if you are going round a corner, that is when it becomes impossible to use and as for the E-mode, coming too a stop at traffic lights etc; you personaly brake, the grear-box changes down and you come to a jeking/bouncing halt.
I have to be honest and say that if it was not for the superior fuel consumption that I get from the Auris compared to my last car and because it is very difficult to drive, I am sorry to say I would not recommend the Auris Mulitmode to any-one thinking of purchasing a new car, the manual gear-box may be a different expirience entirely ! ! ! |
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Mar 14 2009, 08:00 PM
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Club Member ![]() ![]() Group: Registered Member Posts: 28 Joined: 26-May 07 From: Cheshire Member No.: 40351 Car Model:Auris Location:Cheshire |
I have owned my Auris " Multimode " for 12 months and to be honest it is a pain in the rear, I have driven cars for over 40 years manual and automatic gear-boxes, so I thought when after a test drive I would get use to this new ! mulitmode gearbox, but my in my opinion (MY), it is a pain in the rectum, a prime example, the Paddle Shift, OK if you are going in a straight line ! but useless if you are going round a corner, that is when it becomes impossible to use and as for the E-mode, coming too a stop at traffic lights etc; you personaly brake, the grear-box changes down and you come to a jeking/bouncing halt. I have to be honest and say that if it was not for the superior fuel consumption that I get from the Auris compared to my last car and because it is very difficult to drive, I am sorry to say I would not recommend the Auris Mulitmode to any-one thinking of purchasing a new car, the manual gear-box may be a different expirience entirely ! ! ! |
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Mar 14 2009, 08:35 PM
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Club Member ![]() ![]() Group: Registered Member Posts: 28 Joined: 26-May 07 From: Cheshire Member No.: 40351 Car Model:Auris Location:Cheshire |
I have owned my Auris " Multimode " for 12 months and to be honest it is a pain in the rear, I have driven cars for over 40 years manual and automatic gear-boxes, so I thought when after a test drive I would get use to this new ! mulitmode gearbox, but my in my opinion (MY), it is a pain in the rectum, a prime example, the Paddle Shift, OK if you are going in a straight line ! but useless if you are going round a corner, that is when it becomes impossible to use and as for the E-mode, coming too a stop at traffic lights etc; you personaly brake, the grear-box changes down and you come to a jeking/bouncing halt. I have to be honest and say that if it was not for the superior fuel consumption that I get from the Auris compared to my last car and because it is very difficult to drive, I am sorry to say I would not recommend the Auris Mulitmode to any-one thinking of purchasing a new car, the manual gear-box may be a different expirience entirely ! ! ! Hi I started this post in 2007 & as I've not posted for a good while, I thought I'd make another contribution to the MMT debate. As I've said before, for about the first nine months I hated the car; for the last fifteen I've loved it! It really did take a lot of getting used to and it did require the acquisition of a very different driving style through endless experimentation, but after I'd mastered it I've never looked back. Whilst I fully appreciate the views expressed by other posters that such adjustments to their driving style shouldn't be necessary, unfortunately with this type of transmission - which is designed to be economical in terms of mpg & C02 emissions - IT IS (and this is also the case with similar transmissions introduced by other manufacturers). In terms of durability/reliability, I can only say that up to now (approaching two years) I haven't had any problems - touch wood! I drive mine in 'E' mode all the time, but sometimes use the paddle shifts (on straight roads!). A very useful technique I discovered over twelve months ago, is to move the gearshift into neutral when approaching a junction or traffic lights as this avoids any jerkiness when stopping (and probably causes less engine/clutch wear). If the lights change & you don't need to come to a complete stop, just pop the gear lever back into 'E' mode & amazingly the gearbox will select the appropriate gear for you to accelerate again. I'm also finding the 'changing down to first gear' issue less of a problem these days. In conclusion, I am seriously considering getting another MMT when the new 1.6 Valvematic 132 DIN hp version is available. Hope this helps Regards Phil |
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Apr 13 2009, 08:28 AM
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New Member Group: Registered Member Posts: 1 Joined: 13-April 09 Member No.: 76285 Car Model:Auris Location:Spain |
I have had the Auris for 2 years (almost) and happy to say that my financing option allows me to return it.
Several weeks ago i was in heavy traffic and the car simply stalled. We had to let it cool off for about 1 hour before we could continue on our way. We brought it to a local Toyota dealer who first of all literally said he did not know what the error message meant (!!!) and then finally after having it there for an entire day, said he couldn't find anything in the gearbox so put some grease on it "and it will probably not happen again"...Yeah, right... Then last week i was bringing the car from the Netherlands to Spain and encountered heavy traffic in Paris. After 2 hours of slow moving traffic, the car decided to stall again and we had to get picked up by the local french road support. We ended up flying back to Spain and now i have to go back to Paris to collect this car (as Toyota is refusing to deliver it to Spain), probably after the local Toyota dealer will also just put some grease on it, as no one knows how to properly solve it... Hopefully i will be back in time to return it to Toyota and never again buy one. Anyone with similar problems? PS I read some comments that "driving style" might cause problems. As this only seems to happen when in heavy traffic, and thus in the lowest gears, i do not see how my driving style might impact this. Also note, that i am never in E when driving in heavy traffic. I am always using the gear tabs to change. |
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Oct 25 2009, 08:25 AM
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New Member Group: Registered Member Posts: 1 Joined: 2-October 09 Member No.: 84412 Car Model:auris Location: basildon essex |
Hi I have a brand new Auris MM 1.6 petrol september 2009 I have had problems with the auto gear change from new, my dealer now thinks that the internal hydrolic clutch needs bleeding. I have had louds noises, it hesitates, changes gear or hunts for the right gear one experiance left me with wiplash I thought that I had been hit from behind the car was just two day old. I am so disapointed with the car that I am considering legal action.
I am giving them one last chance to repair the car. Their own Auris is presenting them with the same problems and they have not been able to resolve the issues, I am wondering why Toyota have not issued a recall on this model If any one has any advice as I am considering challanging toyota through the trades discrption act for failing to supply a car of merchantable quality. |
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Oct 25 2009, 11:29 AM
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![]() AUTHORISED TRADER ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Authorised Trader Posts: 3869 Joined: 17-November 06 From: Queensferry/Chester/Wrexham Member No.: 34014 Car Model:Auris TR Ixion Blue Location:Queensferry/Chester/Wrexham |
I have had run a few MMT Auris and never had a problem with the gearboxes, the paddle shift is brilliant, BUT there is a required driving style change you have to get used to, lifting slightly off the throttle before changing gear works a treat with the paddle shift, very smooth and not at all jerky
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Oct 28 2009, 09:30 PM
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New Member Group: Registered Member Posts: 1 Joined: 9-October 09 Member No.: 84738 Car Model:Auris T2 M/M Location:Wirral, uk |
Hi I have a brand new Auris MM 1.6 petrol september 2009 I have had problems with the auto gear change from new, my dealer now thinks that the internal hydrolic clutch needs bleeding. I have had louds noises, it hesitates, changes gear or hunts for the right gear one experiance left me with wiplash I thought that I had been hit from behind the car was just two day old. I am so disapointed with the car that I am considering legal action. I am giving them one last chance to repair the car. Their own Auris is presenting them with the same problems and they have not been able to resolve the issues, I am wondering why Toyota have not issued a recall on this model If any one has any advice as I am considering challanging toyota through the trades discrption act for failing to supply a car of merchantable quality. Hi, I to purchased a new Auris 1.6 petrol mmt in September an am extremely frustrated by it. I can drive it in both E and manual modes but as my partner has only an automatic licence, she has to use E. We were sold the car as an automatic and also were assured it had brake assistance on hills. It has neither. The gearbox is the worst we have both encountered in 30+ years of driving a variety of cars. The Economy mode gear change is abrupt and jerky. The car selects 1st gear when the speed is slowed to 20-25mph and drops from 3 to 1 on slowing to turn left and right and approaching junctions and roundabouts. On overtaking, the car selects 5th or 6th gear resulting in loss of power during the overtaking manouvre which I suggest is dangerous and has made me very cautious when overtaking. I have twice so far had the car in the local dealers. On the 1st occasion I was advised they reset the ECU, the 2nd, last saturday they reset the management system, which I'm advised teaches the computer system how to react to your driving style. Motorway/dual carriageway journeys are fine, but town travel is awful. Before buying I test drove a 1 year old Auris around town and that was a far smoother automatic gear change. Today I contacted Consumer Direct/Trading Standards who advised me I have a case under The Sale of Goods act as the car is not as described by the salesman. They suggest you write to Toyota head office, send the letter recorded delivery and in your letter give them 7 days to respond. On looking up mmt gearbox problems on the site, it appears it is not just the Auris that has a problem. I would never buy one of these again. Prentonian |
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Nov 7 2009, 12:58 PM
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Advanced Club Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Registered Member Posts: 129 Joined: 7-November 07 Member No.: 48150 Car Model:Auris Location:Wirral |
prentonian.Sent you a PM.Check your inbox.
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