jimlad
August 3, 2003, 5:43 pm
My MR2 finally arrived ! It's a 1990 MK II GT Turbo Tbar...
There is a light on the dash though which is on and concerning me. It is in the bottom left cluster of lights. It is the top right one. It looks like a pipe with a fat bit in the middle with some wavy lines coming off the top.
Does anyone have any idea as to what this could be ? I went to toyota and they said the had never seen that light before and I would need to book it in. ( Think they were just trying to get ££ out of me )
Someone else said it could be a Catalytic converter light ??
It goes off now and again, but comes back on. It has just passed MOT etc, so surely the CAT should be alright ??
Any help greatfully received !!
thanks
jimlad
August 3, 2003, 8:26 pm
no reply ?
thought rhaines would have popped his head in by now...
have looked on the net but found nothing. Does anyone have a Enlgish manual ?? .. lol
Don't want to drive the thing around if it's gonna do more damage...
jimlad
August 3, 2003, 9:16 pm
I'll take a pic of it when I find my camera in amongst all this mess.... ( will prob be tomorrow )
yodasarmpit
August 3, 2003, 10:08 pm
Hey jimlad, you from Livingston (ish) - me too, well Armadale, whereabouts are you from?
Ohh and Ive no idea what the warning light is, try here [url="http://www.imoc.co.uk/technical/faq/warninglights/warninglights.htm"]http://www.imoc.co.uk/technical/faq/warnin...rninglights.htm[/url]
Steve
August 3, 2003, 10:18 pm
hmm the cat converter does ring a bell.
decat it... will sound alot better! and it will be legal on a 1990 car too!
JappyBeast
August 3, 2003, 11:26 pm
Its not the light for the fans?
Dame
August 4, 2003, 4:37 pm
Damn if only I had my owner's manual with me....
jimlad
August 4, 2003, 5:46 pm
I'll take a pic as soon as I find my camera...
I live in Pumpherston to the person who asked... not far from you.
How much would it cost to get de-cat 'd ? Could any exhaust place do it ?
jimlad
August 4, 2003, 5:49 pm
[quote name='yodasarmpit' date='Aug 3 2003, 10:08 PM'] Hey jimlad, you from Livingston (ish) - me too, well Armadale, whereabouts are you from?
Ohh and Ive no idea what the warning light is, try here [url="http://www.imoc.co.uk/technical/faq/warninglights/warninglights.htm"]http://www.imoc.co.uk/technical/faq/warnin...rninglights.htm[/url] [/quote]
none of those lights...
Dame
August 4, 2003, 7:12 pm
Why not hand draw the light symbol, scan it and post that on the site, someone may recognise it......
jimlad
August 4, 2003, 10:17 pm
[url="http://www.jfz.netfirms.com/1.jpg"]http://www.jfz.netfirms.com/1.jpg[/url]
ok, you'll have to copy and paste the link into your browser people.... stupid netfirms.
Dame
August 4, 2003, 10:18 pm
Um..... No image..... you can send it to me if you like - damiencgreen@hotmail.com
Dame
August 4, 2003, 10:30 pm
Thanks, nothing springs to mind, though looks like something is overheating. I'll take a look at my owner's manual when I go back home next (two weeks time) and see if I can find it there.
In the meantime.....
1. Check coolent level
2. Check that all radiator fans are working - listen
3. Check temp gauge sits in the middle.
4. Check intercooler fan operates by taking car for a longish burn, leaving engine running and popping the bonnet to see if the fan (righthand side of engine bay if you stood behind the car) is going.
Don't do 4. until your sure 1-3 are ok.
Perfect time to carry out these tests - lovely hot weather
jimlad
August 4, 2003, 10:32 pm
[quote name='Dame' date='Aug 4 2003, 10:30 PM']
Thanks, nothing springs to mind, though looks like something is overheating. I'll take a look at my owner's manual when I go back home next (two weeks time) and see if I can find it there.
In the meantime.....
1. Check coolent level
2. Check that all radiator fans are working - listen
3. Check temp gauge sits in the middle.
4. Check intercooler fan operates by taking car for a longish burn, leaving engine running and popping the bonnet to see if the fan (righthand side of engine bay if you stood behind the car) is going.
Don't do 4. until your sure 1-3 are ok.
Perfect time to carry out these tests - lovely hot weather

[/quote]
I'm gonna sound thick here....
but...
1) how
2) Erm...... ??
3) yip it sits in the middle
4) can't do first 3
Sorry.... the only thing I know about cars is how to make them go.. and that's it.
Dame
August 4, 2003, 10:58 pm
1. Coolent filler is in engine bay, left rear corner (if standing behind car) Black cap, white plastic funnel leading down into the expansion tank. Remove cap, check water level - I believe there is a marker on the funnel.
2. Run the car for a while (without any fans turned on. You should hear a fan start up after a while. this can take some time. Probably best to check after a longish journey - leave the engine running turn off any fans i.e. air con etc from inside the car is a radiator fan operating??
3. Good - car isn't overheating, but check 1. and 2. anyway.
[quote]Sorry.... the only thing I know about cars is how to make them go.. and that's it.[/quote]
Stick around here for a while, you won't be able to say that anymore
Avatar
August 5, 2003, 12:22 am
[quote name='Dame' date='Aug 4 2003, 10:58 PM'] Stick around here for a while, you won't be able to say that anymore

[/quote]
Thats why i'm here
The Raven
August 6, 2003, 5:51 am
I have the light on my my GLTD it does look like some kind of over heating. Seems to be a import only light.
TheNissanMan
August 6, 2003, 7:23 am
Could be an idea to use a paperclip to find out what error code is being returned from the ECU, this may shed some light on the situation...
Dame
August 6, 2003, 11:14 am
My owners manual is for the imports (US) cars, specifiacally Turbos - so hopefully it will be in there. Can't look until 16th August though.
Carlgolsby
August 6, 2003, 12:35 pm
It's your cat overheat warning light – I'd get it checked.
All JDM cars have them as far as I know
found this it explains more . . .
[url="http://forums.skylinesdownunder.co.nz/archive/topic/25872-1.html"]http://forums.skylinesdownunder.co.nz/arch...ic/25872-1.html[/url]
Dame
August 6, 2003, 3:52 pm
[quote] It's your cat overheat warning light [/quote]
So that's what it is
Good excuse to get the car de-catted if ever I heard one
jimlad
August 6, 2003, 6:24 pm
oh well then... I'll just get the bugger de-catted then...
May as well instead of prob paying Mr Toyota £££ to do probably nowt...
Any idea how much it would cost to get the cat removed from a garage somewhere ?
Dame
August 6, 2003, 6:43 pm
If I was you , I'd get a cat replacement pipe, that way if you get any MOT problems you can slap the cat back in. I'm not sure where to get these, but take a look at the links at [url="http://www.imoc.co.uk"]http://www.imoc.co.uk[/url], I'm sure you'll find something there.....
Dame
August 6, 2003, 6:44 pm
If I was you , I'd get a cat replacement pipe, that way if you get any MOT problems you can slap the cat back in. I'm not sure where to get these, but take a look at the links at [url="http://www.imoc.co.uk"]http://www.imoc.co.uk[/url], I'm sure you'll find something there.....
Decat pipes cost between £150 - £200 I believe but I'm not sure if you can buy one to replace the cat on the existing system. It would seem that you nned to buy a Mongoose exhaust to use the decat - exhaust costs approx £400 add the decat pipe and you're looking at around £600 (I think) quite expensive for what they are IMHO.
You could have a knackered CAT sensor (installed inside the Cat) not sure if these can be replaced. Other than that the cat could be blocked/knackered which could be why it is overheating.
I'm not too knowledegable about exhausts, Ryan might know more about this, so over to you Ryan.....
jimlad
August 6, 2003, 6:49 pm
It's a 1990 Turbo , so I won't have any MOT issues....
just didn't think it swould cost that much.. lol.. thought it would be like £50 max..
Dame
August 6, 2003, 6:54 pm
I've just modified the post I put down before, really need Ryan or someone else in the know to put things straight. I know the existing pipe can have the car removed, but it could have expensive consequencies should your car subsequentially fail it's MOT on emissions.
If you look at
[url="http://www.fensport.co.uk/parts.htm"]http://www.fensport.co.uk/parts.htm[/url]
they have a Blitz decat pipe for the turbo at £231.00 though - expensive stuff indeed.
[quote]The light usually indicates a CAT issue, generally that it has melted into a ball and is blocking airflow but obviously this isn't the case for you - is the temp sensor still in there or has it been removed?[/quote]
Just found this on the IMOC site - could be a dead cat you have
Do a forum search on IMOC with keyword decat. The message is the post titled " [MK2 Turbo] Nightmare!!"
On the plus side, it sounds like you can get a garage to remove your cat, as long as they know what they are doing. You should be OK with emissions - but the engine and turbo need to be in good condition.
jimlad
August 6, 2003, 10:42 pm
how much would a new cat / repairing the cat cost from Mr t ?
Dame
August 7, 2003, 11:07 am
Hmmm, not totally sure, but I reckon you will be looking at £300+ cats are not cheap. However, you could see if you can find one from a breakers yard. You will find contact nuymbers for Club MR2 and Toyota Celica breakers at [url="http://www.imoc.co.uk"]http://www.imoc.co.uk[/url]
jimma
August 9, 2003, 7:37 am
[quote name='jimlad' date='Aug 6 2003, 06:24 PM'] oh well then... I'll just get the bugger de-catted then...
May as well instead of prob paying Mr Toyota £££ to do probably nowt...
Any idea how much it would cost to get the cat removed from a garage somewhere ? [/quote]
you won't get a mot without a cat!
jimlad
August 9, 2003, 11:53 am
[quote name='jimma' date='Aug 9 2003, 07:37 AM'] [quote name='jimlad' date='Aug 6 2003, 06:24 PM'] oh well then... I'll just get the bugger de-catted then...
May as well instead of prob paying Mr Toyota £££ to do probably nowt...
Any idea how much it would cost to get the cat removed from a garage somewhere ? [/quote]
you won't get a mot without a cat! [/quote]
yes I will... it's a 1990 turbo.. should pass fine ( shouldn't it everyone ? )
The company I bought the car from said this .....
"The cat has probably gone lazy (lack of use ) it will come right, Subaru's do it all the time.
We took the cat out of a friends MR2 what a difference, you have to do this ."
So could it be possible that it could be "lazy" ?? If so any idea when the bugger will "wake" up ? Any info on this greatfully received !
thanks
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