Well Lewis Hamilton made the best start for the new F1 season, great win, great race. Just an observation, ok you

cant base it on one race but is it just me ? Or do the rest of you think that the so called champions aint so good

without the electronics to do a lot of the driving for them (traction control) ? Hmmmmm..................................

[quote name='dave.m' post='732572' date='Mar 16 2008, 10:28 PM']Well Lewis Hamilton made the best start for the new F1 season, great win, great race. Just an observation, ok you

cant base it on one race but is it just me ? Or do the rest of you think that the so called champions aint so good

without the electronics to do a lot of the driving for them (traction control) ? Hmmmmm..................................[/quote]

Hi Dave,

Agreed - a good race yesterday and the best possible start for Hamilton. The majority of the retirements yesterday was down to either race damage (shunts) or the failure of parts on the car. The two Champions in the field - Alonso and Raikkonnen - did ok and no, I don't think they were affected by the loss of driver aids. Alonso finished in the points and simply has an inferior car to Lewis and Kimi was always playing catch-up and was over enthusiatic on a couple of occasions in attempting to pass. The majority of yesterdays drivers have all driven cars without Traction Control and have spent a good deal of time testing over the winter so it won't be a problem.

Already looking forward to Maylasia ........... will Glock give us another spectacular incident?

TeyaDog

im willing to bet hamilton gets no more than 5 podium finishes this season...

[quote name='TeyaDog' post='732631' date='Mar 17 2008, 11:42 AM']Hi Dave,

Agreed - a good race yesterday and the best possible start for Hamilton. The majority of the retirements yesterday was down to either race damage (shunts) or the failure of parts on the car. The two Champions in the field - Alonso and Raikkonnen - did ok and no, I don't think they were affected by the loss of driver aids. Alonso finished in the points and simply has an inferior car to Lewis and Kimi was always playing catch-up and was over enthusiatic on a couple of occasions in attempting to pass. The majority of yesterdays drivers have all driven cars without Traction Control and have spent a good deal of time testing over the winter so it won't be a problem.

Already looking forward to Maylasia ........... will Glock give us another spectacular incident?

TeyaDog[/quote]

Hi mate, I was actually having a go at Raikenen, whom I have never been a fan of. He seemed to be missing TC a fair bit.
But it was good to see a mixture of teams on the podium, looks like it could be a good season. Laughed at the report in a
scottish paper today about Coulthard. He says if he does not get an apology from Massa he will kick three colours of sh^t
out of the little Bas^ard.



Hey Don what makes you say that about Lewis ?

It was an excellent race. Well done for Lewis, he had a drive of a champ, settting great lap times.

Coulthard's comment was great. I watched a V+'d version of the live race. He meant what he said, as you could hear it in his voice!

As for the drivers aids being removed (traction control and brake aid), the drivers did suffer. They were making silly mistakes all the time. It was great to see all the cars/drivers having a better chance of doing well, that way we get to see the drivers skill and less of what the car can do!
It will be interesting after 6 reaces I'd say, as those that have been dependant on the aids 'should' be able to perform better. What helped Lewis, I think was his not all too long ago time in karting. Therefore his not gotten used to all the aids and can drive the car without a problem. Funny how 2 young Karting mates ended up 1st & 3rd!!!

I'm just happy coz Ferrari have zero points!!!!

[quote name='JappyBeast' post='732741' date='Mar 17 2008, 05:08 PM']I'm just happy coz Ferrari have zero points!!!![/quote]


You and me both mate

Well the McLaren curse struck Lewis yesterday oh well.

Anyway a TOYOTA in FOURTH position !!!!!!!!!!!! W T F is all that about ? Do I need to consider swapping my allegiance ?

Well Lewis had a FAN FREAKIN TASTIC race at Belguim today. Bloody brilliant wheel to wheel stuff, just what we like

[quote name='dave.m' post='796102' date='Sep 7 2008, 08:28 PM']Well Lewis had a FAN FREAKIN TASTIC race at Belguim today. Bloody brilliant wheel to wheel stuff, just what we like [/quote]

But sadly he has been relegated to third place following an enquiry

[quote name='Red Yaris 54' post='796103' date='Sep 7 2008, 08:29 PM'][quote name='dave.m' post='796102' date='Sep 7 2008, 08:28 PM']Well Lewis had a FAN FREAKIN TASTIC race at Belguim today. Bloody brilliant wheel to wheel stuff, just what we like [/quote]

But sadly he has been relegated to third place following an enquiry
[/quote]



Just like last year, the bias toward Ferrari is ****** ridiculous.

Seemed like a ridiculous decision to me. If Hamilton had stayed on the track there would have been a 2 car pile up as the Ferrari would have driven into the side of him and with 2 laps to go an instant end to the race. What was he supposed to to do if not use the escape road?

Telemetry says after cutting the corner he was 6pmh slower than the Ferrari and he didn't attempt to pass him until yielding the position and then waiting until the next corner. Seeing as the Ferrari was totaled a few corners later it's not like there was a chance for them to win.

From a tele punters POV the decision makes no sense.

What he did was an illegal undertake, regardless of him trying to avoid an accident. Hamilton should have been given a drive through penalty at the time, but wasnt, hence his later time penalty of 25 seconds. Did Hamilton surrender the lead back to Kimi? I don't think he surrendered it, Kimi got it back yes, but in the spirit of things Hamilton didnt make it easy and he has been penalised. Telemetry showed a speed difference of 6 KPH, NOT MPH. As with everything else in big time sport these days, the appeal being launched has nothing to do with fairness or sportsmanship, it has everything to do with MONEY, driver points, MONEY, constructors points, MONEY. I like to see a Brit win, but when it happened I had a feeling it looked an illegal move and the stewards thought so too

Kingo

[quote name='Parts-King' post='796338' date='Sep 8 2008, 11:08 AM']What he did was an illegal undertake, regardless of him trying to avoid an accident. Hamilton should have been given a drive through penalty at the time, but wasnt, hence his later time penalty of 25 seconds. Did Hamilton surrender the lead back to Kimi? I don't think he surrendered it, Kimi got it back yes, but in the spirit of things Hamilton didnt make it easy and he has been penalised. Telemetry showed a speed difference of 6 KPH, NOT MPH. As with everything else in big time sport these days, the appeal being launched has nothing to do with fairness or sportsmanship, it has everything to do with MONEY, driver points, MONEY, constructors points, MONEY. I like to see a Brit win, but when it happened I had a feeling it looked an illegal move and the stewards thought so too

Kingo [/quote]

Rubbish rubbish rubbish every body knows Ferrari are so far in the back pocket of the FIA it stinks...........the spy gate stuff etc etc etc.. Ferrari can do no wrong in the Bernie and FIA eyes.....

F1 is all about money and Ferrari has the most so they line the pockets of those needed...

I'll get me coat....

Well well, bernie and ferrari owner briatore now own QPR, conflict of interests ? IMHO F1 is now the most

corrupt sport in the world. Some interesting comments here -

[url="http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/08092008/58/hamilton-punishment-whips-storm.html"]http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/08092008/58/...hips-storm.html[/url]

(over a hundred at bottom of page)

It's all to do with money......The sport element has gone out of the window. Premierleague/Sky started it all off...............Now F1

Where theres money theres News International or Bernie...

It all stinks

Kingo

F1A = Ferrari 1st. Always

I can remember when a certain Michael Schumacher cut over a corner and was not penalised !!!

He also finished a race in the pit lane ( following a 10 second penalty ) and was still awarded the race !!!

TBH that decision stank, yes he did cut the corner but then dropped back behind kimi again. he had no choice but to cut or cause an accident.
bout time ferrari were disqualified for biatchin and moaning

i agree with it being soooooo unfair for Lewis

There is a petition for Lewis i have put it in Generals as more folk will see it there,
please go sign it ....not that the FIA will take any notice of us all though

FIA = Ferrari Internal Affairs

And all the (Ferrari) cars that cut the first corner of the race - oh yes, no penalty

And the dangerous pitlane (Ferrari) driving - oh yes no real penalty

Good thing Hamilton isnt black or..........oops.........

[quote name='buzlby' post='797974' date='Sep 11 2008, 07:35 PM']FIA = Ferrari Internal Affairs

And all the (Ferrari) cars that cut the first corner of the race - oh yes, no penalty

And the dangerous pitlane (Ferrari) driving - oh yes no real penalty

Good thing Hamilton isnt black or..........oops.........[/quote]


I would hate to think F1 had any "Black " issues as that could kill the sport off but i feel its a Mclaren problem, I'm starting to think the FIA are coming down hard on them after Mosley fell out with Dennis last year, and it seems the FIA and the Stewards follow mosley like little sheep, things will only change once mosley steps down, and then we must hope the new guy doesn't own a red sports car !

Singapore GP soon to be on ITV (12:00..............Race starts 13:00).............................Dont miss it

I think its going to be a tricky track to overtake on ...i guess we will know in a few hours time

Holy flaming tamoly, Brazil is going to be a nail biter

[quote name='dave.m' post='812675' date='Oct 19 2008, 10:00 AM']Holy flaming tamoly, Brazil is going to be a nail biter [/quote]

Yep lets hope he keeps his cool and drives to win not drives to stay in front........

Bernie is probably now in the Ferrari tent telling them to get their act together or he'll not order another Ferrari again

[quote name='chatman' post='812684' date='Oct 19 2008, 10:41 AM'][quote name='dave.m' post='812675' date='Oct 19 2008, 10:00 AM']Holy flaming tamoly, Brazil is going to be a nail biter [/quote]

Yep lets hope he keeps his cool and drives to win not drives to stay in front........

Bernie is probably now in the Ferrari tent telling them to get their act together or he'll not order another Ferrari again
[/quote]

I see Ferrari are trying to get Lewis disqualified, citing that he had some hep. FROM GOD

I'm sure there is a regulation about letting team mates pass, has Ferrari given a reason for Massa passing Kimi ?

Arr here we go, it already been discussed....
[url="http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/10/19/should-ferrari-get-team-orders-penalty/"]http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/10/19/shou...orders-penalty/[/url]

[quote name='Bob King' post='812703' date='Oct 19 2008, 12:12 PM']I'm sure there is a regulation about letting team mates pass, has Ferrari given a reason for Massa passing Kimi ?

Arr here we go, it already been discussed....
[url="http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/10/19/should-ferrari-get-team-orders-penalty/"]http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/10/19/shou...orders-penalty/[/url][/quote]

O dear Ferrari Radio's not working then.. So the race was not planned out before the start then...and is purely down to the drivers talent...Next your gonna tell me Mosley likes to go to German fancy dress parties...

[quote name='chatman' post='812712' date='Oct 19 2008, 12:42 PM'][quote name='Bob King' post='812703' date='Oct 19 2008, 12:12 PM']I'm sure there is a regulation about letting team mates pass, has Ferrari given a reason for Massa passing Kimi ?

Arr here we go, it already been discussed....
[url="http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/10/19/should-ferrari-get-team-orders-penalty/"]http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/10/19/shou...orders-penalty/[/url][/quote]

O dear Ferrari Radio's not working then.. So the race was not planned out before the start then...and is purely down to the drivers talent...Next your gonna tell me Mosley likes to go to German fancy dress parties...
[/quote]

Strange that......................The radio in my old FIAT............(Many years ago ) only worked intermittently

Must be Italian engineering

N U M B E R NUMBER 1


What a crazy finish, was that a little help from a Toyota


Let the conspiracy theories begin.

[img]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01106/hamilton3_1106233c.jpg[/img]

I am very pleased Lewis is world champion but I have mixed feelings about it. On the strength of the season he deserves it but on that race he does not!

For some odd reason his last set of tyres just would not work.... I wonder why

As for Glock slowing seriously on the final half lap.... who cares why he slowed, Massa tried hard enough to get cohorts on his side to beat Lewis

As for the Brazilian fans.... what a bunch of vile w*****rs

[quote name='dave.m' post='817967' date='Nov 2 2008, 06:58 PM']What a crazy finish, was that a little help from a Toyota [/quote]


Ermm, that'll be down to the P*ssing down rain and Glock being on slicks!! If hed come in for inters, Hamilton would have already taken him, so McLaren knew what they were doing......I think

WELL DONE LEWIS - brilliant, best end to a season since that T*sser Schumacher took Hill out at Adelaide in 1994..

Andy