Hi

I put this in the Workshop section but it seems no one looks in there by the number of hits it had, so I thought I'd put it here.... may help someone.

I have a 2.2 D-4D SR Verso (136bhp model)

I was looking around and saw lots of adverts for tuning boxes to raise the BHP and Torque and wondered if they were any good, anyway after much searching I found one on ebay for £102.95 delivered so I thought I would give it a go, the seller had excellent feedback and had refunded others who it had not worked for. They say they work by increasing the fuel to use up extra air in the combustion.

Anyway it turned up just before xmas but the plug on the lead that came with it was wrong, I emailed the seller and sent a picture of the plug that is on my car and he immediately sent the right one, I fitted it just over a week ago now and have done about 400miles since....

Well I am seriously impressed, the car feels much smoother all the time, the throttle responce has also increased...

As for performance, well they claim it raises the bhp from 136bhp to 163bhp and the torque from 300nm to 350nm. I think they are about right. The car is noticably quicker all the way through the rev range, even from very low, off boost, revs. There is no smoke on full throttle. I timed the car from 40-60mph in third gear, ie drive at a constant 40mph then floor it and time how long it takes to get to 60mph, well standard was 5.2 secs, with the box it has dropped to 4.17 secs, just over a second quicker. (when I say "I" timed it I wasn't driving and timing, a mate did the timing) It was on the same piece of road in the same direction. We did it twice and both runs gave very similar times.

As you can imagine the first 100miles was spent trying out the extra power and the mpg dropped from the usual 38 down to 36, I then started behaving and driving it more normally, with the odd spirited moment, and it's now doing about 40mpg, so their claim of better mileage seems to be true as well.

Anyway I would have been happy to pay the money just for the increase in smoothness and all round feel so I am well chuffed and can recommend them to anyone. There are loads of people selling them and all claiming the same increase so I guess they are very similar. The prices ranged from £105 to nearly £400 so you have to pick the right one. The one I got came from a seller who says he is in Germany on ebay, the parcel came from Bulgaria so I guess he is drop shipping them....

It is very easy to fit, apparently is not recorded by the ecu and can be removed with no tools in about 2 mins...

This is what you get for your money, the lead is very well made with a moulded "T" piece and what look like OE plugs. The box is made from aluminium and is tough.

[img]http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh32/arativ/07012009094.jpg[/img]

First job to do is pull off the engine cover, it just pulls straight up, set it to one side and look for the plug behind the power steering resevoir, its got three wires going to it one yellow, one blue and one red.

[img]http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh32/arativ/07012009095.jpg[/img]

Now remove this plug, look at the plug on the supplied lead to see which bit to press to release it.

[img]http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh32/arativ/07012009096.jpg[/img]

Now you have the plug removed just plug the two plugs from the supplied lead in, one to the lead and the other to the car.

[img]http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh32/arativ/07012009097.jpg[/img]

Thats it, job done. I used a couple of cable ties to fix the box to the inner wing, nice and high and out of the way of water and too much heat, then used a couple more ties to fix the wireing and refitted the engine cover, just line up the oil filler and dipstick and push it back into place.

I thought this would be a waste of money, but you never know unless you try, well I've tried it and it's excellent.

Pete

What difference does the extra power make to wear and tear on the clutch and gearbox?

[quote name='hertsnminds' post='840765' date='Jan 12 2009, 08:55 AM']What difference does the extra power make to wear and tear on the clutch and gearbox?[/quote]

Hi

The clutch and gearbox are the same as in the T180 so they are designed to handle the extra power, in any case the thing which breaks them would be the instant transfer of torque, ie shock loading, with a turbo the extra torque is brought on smoothly as the engine revs rise. A survey was done a while ago which showed that even a spirited driver will use full throttle for only 5% of the time. Obviously there will be some reduction in longevity of components but it should be minimal.

Pete

Hi,

Any chance you could let us know the guys name that you bought it off, I had something similar fitted to a previous car and was very impressed by it.


Trev

[quote name='Trev T' post='841235' date='Jan 13 2009, 11:17 AM']Hi,

Any chance you could let us know the guys name that you bought it off, I had something similar fitted to a previous car and was very impressed by it.


Trev[/quote]

Trev

I don't like putting links to ebay adverts on a forum as in 90 days they have gone, if you do an ebay search for "CHIP TUNING CHIP BOX for TOYOTA " this is in the title and if he is still selling them then it should come up, the seller is called "tasosis" and he states he is in Germany but like I said the item came from Bulgaria, for the next 90days you can see it here

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CHIP-TUNING-CHIP-BOX-for-TOYOTA-AYGO-COROLLA-HiAce_W0QQitemZ350150904916QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item350150904916&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1301%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CHIP-TUNING-CHIP-BOX...A1%7C240%3A1318[/url]

He is accepting offers and the lowest he would take when I bought was £95.

Pete

[quote name='Haylands' post='841249' date='Jan 13 2009, 12:38 PM'][quote name='Trev T' post='841235' date='Jan 13 2009, 11:17 AM']Hi,

Any chance you could let us know the guys name that you bought it off, I had something similar fitted to a previous car and was very impressed by it.


Trev[/quote]

Trev

I don't like putting links to ebay adverts on a forum as in 90 days they have gone, if you do an ebay search for "CHIP TUNING CHIP BOX for TOYOTA " this is in the title and if he is still selling them then it should come up, the seller is called "tasosis" and he states he is in Germany but like I said the item came from Bulgaria, for the next 90days you can see it here

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CHIP-TUNING-CHIP-BOX-for-TOYOTA-AYGO-COROLLA-HiAce_W0QQitemZ350150904916QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item350150904916&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1301%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CHIP-TUNING-CHIP-BOX...A1%7C240%3A1318[/url]

He is accepting offers and the lowest he would take when I bought was £95.

Pete
[/quote]

Thanks for the report and the photos. Getting our Verso ('06 06 2.2 TR) a week Thursday and have been looking at these. For the price I might well give it a go. Cheers!

Stuart

[quote name='roadsterstu' post='843419' date='Jan 19 2009, 08:29 PM']Thanks for the report and the photos. Getting our Verso ('06 06 2.2 TR) a week Thursday and have been looking at these. For the price I might well give it a go. Cheers!

Stuart[/quote]

Stuart,

Hi and welcome to the club

I think you will like it, mine seems to get better and better, the car feels much smoother than it did, not that it was that bad before but it's very good now.
"For the price I might well give it a go" is exactly how I felt and I was proved right.

Hope it works for you, let others know on here how you get on.

Pete

[quote name='Haylands' post='843542' date='Jan 20 2009, 08:19 AM'][quote name='roadsterstu' post='843419' date='Jan 19 2009, 08:29 PM']Thanks for the report and the photos. Getting our Verso ('06 06 2.2 TR) a week Thursday and have been looking at these. For the price I might well give it a go. Cheers!

Stuart[/quote]

Stuart,

Hi and welcome to the club

I think you will like it, mine seems to get better and better, the car feels much smoother than it did, not that it was that bad before but it's very good now.
"For the price I might well give it a go" is exactly how I felt and I was proved right.

Hope it works for you, let others know on here how you get on.

Pete
[/quote]

Will do. Get the car a week today. Will run it for a couple of weeks to get a feel as standard then order a box and see how it goes. I noted on test drive the current owner is averaging 37mpg. I think that is mainly urban and suburban rather than motorways. I was hoping to see better than that on our daily commute. (I did used to post on here some time ago as D-4DStu when I had a Yaris but for some reason the forum wouldn't accept my old password, then wouldn't accept the new password it gave me, then wouldn't let me sign up with the same email address but a different name...in the end I started from scratch, with a different email address!)

From the pictures you have supplied Pete, this fits to the fuel pressure regulator, correct? If it is, then it is not the micro processor controlled type we spoke of last week, it will be a resistor type that is not mapped in any way. I would exercise some caution in fitting this type (long term)

Kingo

[quote name='roadsterstu' post='844420' date='Jan 22 2009, 12:04 PM']Will do. Get the car a week today. Will run it for a couple of weeks to get a feel as standard then order a box and see how it goes. I noted on test drive the current owner is averaging 37mpg. I think that is mainly urban and suburban rather than motorways. I was hoping to see better than that on our daily commute. (I did used to post on here some time ago as D-4DStu when I had a Yaris but for some reason the forum wouldn't accept my old password, then wouldn't accept the new password it gave me, then wouldn't let me sign up with the same email address but a different name...in the end I started from scratch, with a different email address!)[/quote]

Hi

Mine is now showing 41.8mpg in mainly urban/suburban driving.... and I don't hang about!!! That's up nearly 4mpg over the old figure (my cars only done 3000 miles so it will probably be getting better anyway as the engine loosens up)

[quote name='Parts-King' post='844462' date='Jan 22 2009, 02:31 PM']From the pictures you have supplied Pete, this fits to the fuel pressure regulator, correct? If it is, then it is not the micro processor controlled type we spoke of last week, it will be a resistor type that is not mapped in any way. I would exercise some caution in fitting this type (long term)

Kingo [/quote]

Kingo

It fits onto the direct injection fuel rail, what this does I don't know....

My mate was impressed with the before and after so I have ordered him one for his 406 HDi and I asked the seller what was inside it, his reply was "You can open the tuning box and you can see what is in it!!!" so I did and this is what I found;

It is an extruded aluminium box with two detachable ends that are fully rubber sealed, it is kept together by star drive capped screws.

[img]http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh32/arativ/22012009122.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh32/arativ/22012009123.jpg[/img]

To my untrained eye (I'm better with mechanics than electronics) it does look like it is a microprocessor controlled device with jumper pins for calibration....

Any thoughts please let me know

Pete

My guess is that it's a PIC; a single chip computer made by [url="http://www.microchip.com"]Microchip Technology Inc[/url]. They are terrifically useful little devices, very cheap to buy and easy to program. I've used them a couple of times when I wanted to make a small, cheap, low power consumption circuit with real-time performance. I'd estimate the cost of the components in that box at no more than £5. Of course, it's the code the processor runs that matters and it's that IP you're paying for...

[quote name='Peterkin' post='844556' date='Jan 22 2009, 06:54 PM']My guess is that it's a PIC; a single chip computer made by [url="http://www.microchip.com"]Microchip Technology Inc[/url]. They are terrifically useful little devices, very cheap to buy and easy to program. I've used them a couple of times when I wanted to make a small, cheap, low power consumption circuit with real-time performance. I'd estimate the cost of the components in that box at no more than £5. Of course, it's the code the processor runs that matters and it's that IP you're paying for...[/quote]

Hi

Thanks for that, bit over my head, does that mean it's a resistor type or is it a micro processor controlled type?

Cheers

Pete

Well that certainly looks micro processor controlled, particularly if it has jumper pins to adjust power. Have you tried moving them? They are usually set to a zero default, you might get some more power or MPG out of it

Kingo

[quote name='Parts-King' post='844697' date='Jan 23 2009, 08:58 AM']Well that certainly looks micro processor controlled, particularly if it has jumper pins to adjust power. Have you tried moving them? They are usually set to a zero default, you might get some more power or MPG out of it

Kingo [/quote]

Hi

I had to pluck up a lot of courage to open it..... touching it is another thing and as for moving something.... well I've come out in a cold sweat just thinking about it!!!!

Pete

Hi there everyone, I am new to toyotas had a mondeo as my last car. Interested in installing a tuning box to my 2.2 d-4-d verso 136bhp came across this what do you all think

[url="http://www.racechip.de/racechip-chiptuning/Toyota-Corolla-Verso-2-2-D4D-2280-r.html?xPrioS=gk99il2qvon6363oosv1hdeqn5"]http://www.racechip.de/racechip-chiptuning...6363oosv1hdeqn5[/url]

all comments appreciated

[quote name='djbarren' post='845536' date='Jan 25 2009, 01:08 PM']Hi there everyone, I am new to toyotas had a mondeo as my last car. Interested in installing a tuning box to my 2.2 d-4-d verso 136bhp came across this what do you all think

[url="http://www.racechip.de/racechip-chiptuning/Toyota-Corolla-Verso-2-2-D4D-2280-r.html?xPrioS=gk99il2qvon6363oosv1hdeqn5"]http://www.racechip.de/racechip-chiptuning...6363oosv1hdeqn5[/url]

all comments appreciated [/quote]
They look identical to the parts the Haylands (Pete) is running, even more so if you watch the fitting guide. Provided they dont register on the ECU then they are a bargain IMO, more power and MPG and plug in and play means easy removal when the car needs a service .

[quote name='djbarren' post='845536' date='Jan 25 2009, 01:08 PM']Hi there everyone, I am new to toyotas had a mondeo as my last car. Interested in installing a tuning box to my 2.2 d-4-d verso 136bhp came across this what do you all think

[url="http://www.racechip.de/racechip-chiptuning/Toyota-Corolla-Verso-2-2-D4D-2280-r.html?xPrioS=gk99il2qvon6363oosv1hdeqn5"]http://www.racechip.de/racechip-chiptuning...6363oosv1hdeqn5[/url]

all comments appreciated [/quote]

Hi

Seems just like my one but it's a bit more money, the guy I got mine from is reliable and my one has been tested by me and works.....

Ebay item number 350154327119 if you want one....

Well worth it whatever you decide, also there are two different looms used on our cars, check to see if your plug has 3 or 6 wires going to it to make sure you get the right one.

Pete

[quote name='Haylands' post='845550' date='Jan 25 2009, 02:31 PM'][quote name='djbarren' post='845536' date='Jan 25 2009, 01:08 PM']Hi there everyone, I am new to toyotas had a mondeo as my last car. Interested in installing a tuning box to my 2.2 d-4-d verso 136bhp came across this what do you all think

[url="http://www.racechip.de/racechip-chiptuning/Toyota-Corolla-Verso-2-2-D4D-2280-r.html?xPrioS=gk99il2qvon6363oosv1hdeqn5"]http://www.racechip.de/racechip-chiptuning...6363oosv1hdeqn5[/url]

all comments appreciated [/quote]

Hi

Seems just like my one but it's a bit more money, the guy I got mine from is reliable and my one has been tested by me and works.....

Ebay item number 350154327119 if you want one....

Well worth it whatever you decide, also there are two different looms used on our cars, check to see if your plug has 3 or 6 wires going to it to make sure you get the right one.

Pete
[/quote]

Just bought one for my Auris SR 180, and the comments are posted in that forum, very impressed, oh, and the Auris SR 180 uses the six wire version.

[quote name='djbarren' post='845536' date='Jan 25 2009, 01:08 PM']Hi there everyone, I am new to toyotas had a mondeo as my last car. Interested in installing a tuning box to my 2.2 d-4-d verso 136bhp came across this what do you all think

[url="http://www.racechip.de/racechip-chiptuning/Toyota-Corolla-Verso-2-2-D4D-2280-r.html?xPrioS=gk99il2qvon6363oosv1hdeqn5"]http://www.racechip.de/racechip-chiptuning...6363oosv1hdeqn5[/url]

all comments appreciated [/quote]

Identical fitting to the E-Bay one that I have, with the exception that on the Auris SR 180 you also connect a live and negative to the battery.

The E-Bay one also states that the item is made in Germany same as the Racechip one.

Been running mine for a few days now, and it just gets better by the day.

[b]@ Haylands[/b]

Hi, I read you review and come to the conclusion that I want a piece of the action too. But i have one question, my engine has a slightly different layout and my power steering reservoir is in a different location. can you confirm that this is the correct plug to remove and attach the 'box of tricks' to.

[img]http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/77/dsc00484by8.jpg[/img]

with 3 wires:

[img]http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/4365/dsc00487xb1.jpg[/img]

If these are indeed the right ones i'm gonna put in an offer.


Also any chance you could give me a rough idea of the measurements. I need to make a mock up box out of paper/card and see if I can find a place to hide it in the engine bay. the one place i would stick it already has ballast for my lights.

Thanks in advance.

Hi

Sorry been away for a few days, yes thats the plug, I'll measure the box tomorrow and post the size up then

Pete

[quote name='Haylands' post='856046' date='Feb 20 2009, 01:27 AM']Hi

Sorry been away for a few days, yes thats the plug, I'll measure the box tomorrow and post the size up then

Pete[/quote]


Thanks Pete, but I've already ordered it so no need for measurements. I appreciate it though. I'm just gonna have to find a place for it when it gets fitted.

Hate to sound like a spoilsport but have any of you mentioned these modifications to your insurance company? If not, you could well find yourself with a rejected claim. I wouldn't bet on Toyota honouring the warranty either after you've made your own modifications to the engine.

[quote name='Will_de_Beest' post='859498' date='Feb 27 2009, 04:48 PM']Hate to sound like a spoilsport but have any of you mentioned these modifications to your insurance company? If not, you could well find yourself with a rejected claim. I wouldn't bet on Toyota honouring the warranty either after you've made your own modifications to the engine.[/quote]

Yeah doing it tomorrow, and if they do indeed come back with a silly quote then I will way it up and may end up removing it.

[quote name='wastedagen' post='859683' date='Feb 27 2009, 10:10 PM'][quote name='Will_de_Beest' post='859498' date='Feb 27 2009, 04:48 PM']Hate to sound like a spoilsport but have any of you mentioned these modifications to your insurance company? If not, you could well find yourself with a rejected claim. I wouldn't bet on Toyota honouring the warranty either after you've made your own modifications to the engine.[/quote]

Yeah doing it tomorrow, and if they do indeed come back with a silly quote then I will way it up and may end up removing it.
[/quote]

[url="http://toyotaownersclub.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=88781&view=findpost&p=859816"]Price they quoted me[/url]

[quote name='wastedagen' post='859818' date='Feb 28 2009, 10:35 AM'][url="http://toyotaownersclub.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=88781&view=findpost&p=859816"]Price they quoted me[/url][/quote]
that link doesn't seem to take me to any price quote?

think that this is the 1 that you meant [url="http://toyotaownersclub.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=88781&pid=859816&mode=threaded&start=#entry859816"]http://toyotaownersclub.com/forums/index.p...rt=#entry859816[/url]

[quote name='Heidfirst' post='859871' date='Feb 28 2009, 12:55 PM'][quote name='wastedagen' post='859818' date='Feb 28 2009, 10:35 AM'][url="http://toyotaownersclub.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=88781&view=findpost&p=859816"]Price they quoted me[/url][/quote]
that link doesn't seem to take me to any price quote?

think that this is the 1 that you meant [url="http://toyotaownersclub.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=88781&pid=859816&mode=threaded&start=#entry859816"]http://toyotaownersclub.com/forums/index.p...rt=#entry859816[/url]
[/quote]

Yeah thanks. Thats what I meant to do...............

I've just fitted mine and had a short run, car pulls betters unsurprisingly!

I will do the same 40-60 as the OP and see what i get

MPG went up on the short drive even though i kept flooring it, what that all about!

I'm looking to do something along these lines with my D4D verso post warranty, but was thinking about Superships. Does the tuning box help with the non-existant acceleration after 65 MPH?

[quote name='Blurt' post='912187' date='Jul 10 2009, 10:26 AM']I'm looking to do something along these lines with my D4D verso post warranty, but was thinking about Superships. Does the tuning box help with the non-existant acceleration after 65 MPH?[/quote]

Hi

I contacted superchips and they don't do one for the Corolla.... they did say it wasn't a popular car.... bit silly really when more Corollas have been sold than ANY other car....

Anyway had it on for nearly 9000 miles and it just seems to get faster.... took it to an old airfield and up to 125mph (then ran out of runway!!) it pulls like a train... and thats sat nav speed it was showing 135mph on the clock.... if I turn the traction off it will spin the front wheels in 1st 2nd and 3rd.... (I'm sounding like a bit of a yob here but 99.9% of the time I just drive it normally) I like how it pulls in any gear at any speed, it means you can be lazy and just not change gear so much.... it also does more mpg than it did, I recon it's paid for itself easily and the car is just so much nicer to drive.....

As an aside it seems the Verso is OK with these boxes, my mates Peugeot is fine as well but another friend with a Mitsubishi has had engine light on all the time and misfires so he gave up and another friend with a big Volvo diesel had similar issues....

Mine is still fine and shows no side effects....

Pete

The box i have has adjustable settings, its still set at the default i am not sure if i dare turn it up!!!

[quote name='cabcurtains' post='913501' date='Jul 14 2009, 07:52 PM']The box i have has adjustable settings, its still set at the default i am not sure if i dare turn it up!!![/quote]


Hi

I did adjust mine up as far as it will go and it made another big difference, you keep the red jumper on the same line of pins but move it hard up against the blue jumper, that gives maximum power.... You just have to take the bottom off the box to reach them, make sure you disconnect the box first.

[img]http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh32/arativ/22012009123.jpg[/img]

Mine went from standard 5.2secs (40mph to 60mph) to 4.17sces for where the jumpers are in the pic to 3.8secs with it moved, that 1.4secs doesn't sound much but as 60mph it's a lot....

If you don't like it you can always put it back....

Pete

I've just bought a T180 that drinks like a thirsty pirate. It's pretty nippy but can be slow getting going in the morning. Do you think one of these might help the mornings and consumption? I get about 29mpg driving it like a girl.

Have anyone tested this one?

[url="http://www.racechip.de/racechip-chiptuning/Toyota-Corolla-Verso-II-2-2-D4D-2280-r.html"]RaceChip[/url]

[quote name='zorba_g' post='945020' date='Nov 17 2009, 01:52 PM']I've just bought a T180 that drinks like a thirsty pirate. It's pretty nippy but can be slow getting going in the morning. Do you think one of these might help the mornings and consumption? I get about 29mpg driving it like a girl.[/quote]

Get yourself one of our T180 kits, they work without bringing on warning lights etc. It all depends on the drivers driving style, but you should get better MPG because you can use lighter throttle settings

PM me for further details and prices, remember we offer a full 30 day money back guarantee if you dont like the product, you wont find that type of offer on well known auction sites

Kingo

[quote name='Kurt P' post='946494' date='Nov 24 2009, 12:09 PM']Have anyone tested this one?

[url="http://www.racechip.de/racechip-chiptuning/Toyota-Corolla-Verso-II-2-2-D4D-2280-r.html"]RaceChip[/url][/quote]

Yes, had one. Pure garbage. If you want to damage your car then by all means

In my case only thing this Racechip gave was limp home mode and crappy performance. Also it is massively overfueling the engine so in a long run your cat or DPF might say bye bye.

Got the Parts-King's T180 box as a replacement and that's been working flawlessly.
I had the car without the box yesterday as it was in periodic maintenance. It's funny how you get used to that extra power, the car was sooooo slow without the box.

[quote name='downtime' post='946587' date='Nov 24 2009, 06:43 PM'][quote name='Kurt P' post='946494' date='Nov 24 2009, 12:09 PM']Have anyone tested this one?

[url="http://www.racechip.de/racechip-chiptuning/Toyota-Corolla-Verso-II-2-2-D4D-2280-r.html"]RaceChip[/url][/quote]

Yes, had one. Pure garbage. If you want to damage your car then by all means

In my case only thing this Racechip gave was limp home mode and crappy performance. Also it is massively overfueling the engine so in a long run your cat or DPF might say bye bye.

Got the Parts-King's T180 box as a replacement and that's been working flawlessly.
I had the car without the box yesterday as it was in periodic maintenance. It's funny how you get used to that extra power, the car was sooooo slow without the box.
[/quote]

Thanks for the information! Where can i find information abouts "Parts-Kings T180 box", and will this work with my car? ( Verso D-4D 2.2 2008)

[quote name='Kurt P' post='946602' date='Nov 24 2009, 08:22 PM'][quote name='downtime' post='946587' date='Nov 24 2009, 06:43 PM'][quote name='Kurt P' post='946494' date='Nov 24 2009, 12:09 PM']Have anyone tested this one?

[url="http://www.racechip.de/racechip-chiptuning/Toyota-Corolla-Verso-II-2-2-D4D-2280-r.html"]RaceChip[/url][/quote]

Yes, had one. Pure garbage. If you want to damage your car then by all means

In my case only thing this Racechip gave was limp home mode and crappy performance. Also it is massively overfueling the engine so in a long run your cat or DPF might say bye bye.

Got the Parts-King's T180 box as a replacement and that's been working flawlessly.
I had the car without the box yesterday as it was in periodic maintenance. It's funny how you get used to that extra power, the car was sooooo slow without the box.
[/quote]

Thanks for the information! Where can i find information abouts "Parts-Kings T180 box", and will this work with my car? ( Verso D-4D 2.2 2008)
[/quote]

Send him private Mail. He's two Posts up.

I've just bought a 'tuning box' that claims to have a digital Philips microprocessor.

"The Tuning Box is produced with SMD technology on the basis of excellent quality, offers a specific map and all the boxes are programmed and tested before the shipping. Your car protection is granted by the internal Recovery System, while thanks to the potentiometer you'll be able to choose directly how much power to gain."

Does it sound likely that a digital microprocessor controlled box would be adjustable by turning a screw, or have I been ripped off and it is likely a resistor type?

It kept going into limp home mode at first, but after turning the potentiometer down slightly it now runs better. I dont want to use it if it is likely to ruin the engine components.

I will take it apart and take photos of the inside soon, and do the 40-60 test mentioned earlier.

Oh yes, it also says on the website:

"THE ONLY ONE WITH SPECIFIC MAPPING

Tell us, after your purchase, your car model, cylinders, power and registration year. We will program the box specifically for your car engine. We are the only ones to do that: our competitors only use generic tuning boxes!"

That sounds good, but I'm not sure I believe it's true?

[quote name='*Rich*' post='947217' date='Nov 26 2009, 07:31 PM']I've just bought a 'tuning box' that claims to have a digital Philips microprocessor.

"The Tuning Box is produced with SMD technology on the basis of excellent quality, offers a specific map and all the boxes are programmed and tested before the shipping. Your car protection is granted by the internal Recovery System, while thanks to the potentiometer you'll be able to choose directly how much power to gain."

Does it sound likely that a digital microprocessor controlled box would be adjustable by turning a screw, or have I been ripped off and it is likely a resistor type?

It kept going into limp home mode at first, but after turning the potentiometer down slightly it now runs better. I dont want to use it if it is likely to ruin the engine components.

I will take it apart and take photos of the inside soon, and do the 40-60 test mentioned earlier.

Oh yes, it also says on the website:

"THE ONLY ONE WITH SPECIFIC MAPPING

Tell us, after your purchase, your car model, cylinders, power and registration year. We will program the box specifically for your car engine. We are the only ones to do that: our competitors only use generic tuning boxes!"

That sounds good, but I'm not sure I believe it's true?


Rich

Is this the "italian box" as seen on e.bay? Keep us all informed on progress - if ther is any[/quote]

Be wary of cheap imitations...........you get what you pay for

PM me if you want any info on our kits

Kingo

[quote name='Johne' post='947871' date='Nov 29 2009, 11:12 AM'][quote name='*Rich*' post='947217' date='Nov 26 2009, 07:31 PM']I've just bought a 'tuning box' that claims to have a digital Philips microprocessor.

"The Tuning Box is produced with SMD technology on the basis of excellent quality, offers a specific map and all the boxes are programmed and tested before the shipping. Your car protection is granted by the internal Recovery System, while thanks to the potentiometer you'll be able to choose directly how much power to gain."

Does it sound likely that a digital microprocessor controlled box would be adjustable by turning a screw, or have I been ripped off and it is likely a resistor type?

It kept going into limp home mode at first, but after turning the potentiometer down slightly it now runs better. I dont want to use it if it is likely to ruin the engine components.

I will take it apart and take photos of the inside soon, and do the 40-60 test mentioned earlier.

Oh yes, it also says on the website:

"THE ONLY ONE WITH SPECIFIC MAPPING

Tell us, after your purchase, your car model, cylinders, power and registration year. We will program the box specifically for your car engine. We are the only ones to do that: our competitors only use generic tuning boxes!"

That sounds good, but I'm not sure I believe it's true?


Rich

Is this the "italian box" as seen on e.bay? Keep us all informed on progress - if ther is any[/quote]
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Yeah the Italian Box, I was seduced by the advert haha.

I turned the box down slightly as it says in the instructions and it has ran perfectly for around 150 miles now.
It definitely has more torque available from lower in the rev range, I just have to lightly touch the pedal when driving round town.

After an 80 mile motorway journey my trip computer said I had averaged 71mpg, now I dont expect that to be accurate, but I have never seen it above 58mpg before, even on the same journey. I will measure it accurately one day, but it's looking promising!

Oh yes, the idle is unaffected too.

[quote name='Parts-King' post='844697' date='Jan 23 2009, 08:58 AM']Well that certainly looks micro processor controlled, particularly if it has jumper pins to adjust power. Have you tried moving them? They are usually set to a zero default, you might get some more power or MPG out of it

Kingo [/quote]

Kingo, I'd be grateful if you could PM me - I have a box identical to Haylands - Its on my 56 2.2D4D RAV4. I can't say I'm that impressed at the moment, although still experimenting with the jumper settings (which requires a quiet piece of road, just in case in suddenly goes into limp mode..)

I'd be interested to hear about the box you offer and how it differs to the one I have (and what performance gains I could expect with yours)

thanks

Svennard

PM Sent

Kingo

[quote name='Parts-King' post='950203' date='Dec 7 2009, 11:56 AM']PM Sent

Kingo [/quote]

Thanks Kingo

I'll hold fire for a while - you'll see my other post, I'm sure. I think I've managed to get some decent performance out of my box now, by reversing the pins i.e. having the red pin further to the right than the blue (opposite pin set up to that shown on Haylands attached pics). Cheers, Svennard

An update for you all

Mine has done just over 15,000miles now without a hickup or any engine light.... it still goes quick.... I took the unit off when it went in for it's first service last week and driving it to the dealers was very boring, it felt like I had the handbrake on all the way....

I do have to say that I am lucky though it seems to me that it's about 50/50 wether your car will work with these boxes....

As for MPG I did a 220 mile motorway trip with the cruise set to a real 74mph an indicated 80mph and it did 51mpg....

Booting it around town and using all that low end torque and it drops to 35ish.... still not too bad though....

Good going.

Mine has been working great since setting it up right too.

Have you declared to your insurance companies and if so how much do you think its costing more per annum?

[quote name='*Rich*' post='961106' date='Jan 15 2010, 12:14 PM']Good going.

Mine has been working great since setting it up right too.[/quote]

Hello, I am also considering the purchase of the Italian Box.
Could you please tell me if you have already opened the box itself? Is there a chip (Philips, as stated), or it is just a resistor?

Also, you said that you had to set it up right in order for it to work, but in the advertisement it is said that it will come already set right for your engine? Wasn't it that the case?

Thanks in advance for answering my questions and please excuse my bulgarian english!

[quote name='Creep' date='17 February 2010 - 12:11 PM' timestamp='1266408674' post='973875']
[quote name='*Rich*' post='961106' date='Jan 15 2010, 12:14 PM']Good going.

Mine has been working great since setting it up right too.[/quote]

Hello, I am also considering the purchase of the Italian Box.
Could you please tell me if you have already opened the box itself? Is there a chip (Philips, as stated), or it is just a resistor?

Also, you said that you had to set it up right in order for it to work, but in the advertisement it is said that it will come already set right for your engine? Wasn't it that the case?

Thanks in advance for answering my questions and please excuse my bulgarian english!
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I opened up the 'Italian Tuning Box' last night and I have posted the pics of what I found inside.

Most of the inside I cant see as it is filled with like green plastic or something, could someone tell me what is inside the box I have?

I can just see the connector, a red light to show the wire is connected correctly and the potentiometer to turn the box up or down.

It doesn't look very promising compared to the one at the beginning of the thread, but saying that it has been excellent in use.