Snow's Here...ulp

[rambler]

hi all

looking out the window here,snowing like a good'n !

we're expecting a fair bit tonight and tomorow morning...a shock to the system to come maybe

ive driven in mud ,ruts etc etc.....

any driving tips for snow ? ?

ready for morning drive to work in colchester....at 7am

[DominicPriestley]

Snowing well here in Yorkshire

[three5]

hi all

looking out the window here,snowing like a good'n !

we're expecting a fair bit tonight and tomorow morning...a shock to the system to come maybe

ive driven in mud ,ruts etc etc.....

any driving tips for snow ? ?

ready for morning drive to work in colchester....at 7am

Don't know about your 4.1(?) RAV but my 4.3 is without doubt the best vehicle that I have ever driven in snow/ice. The VSC seems to take it all in its stride. Just a very soft right foot and low gear and it just goes and goes. Earlier this year I got my better half to drive it up a setted road that was a series of hairpin bends, 1 in 3 in places with 4" virgin snow on it. No fuss, just gentle steering, 1st gear and a light foot. I've just been out this evening and the lanes around us are like glass, cars all over the place, some stuck in walls! ( A FREELOADER STUCK !!!!! ) Same approach again, low gear, a light foot and avoid all but the gentlest braking. Absolutely brilliant. I've had the whole range of Landrovers from the 2a onwards including a Discovery, Isuzus and a Vitara and nothing comes remotely close.

[bothwell_buyer]

your d4d 2001 is a 4.2 version of the rav.

The advice already given is the best. On the 4.1, there is a diff lock which locks the wheels and gives fairly good traction - I think the 4.2 had a more auto version of this??

Mind that snow on top of black ice is lethal which is what we have up here. Take things slow, leave plenty of room for braking and keep a clear eye out for eejits who have no idea what they are doing. Helping someone who is stuck is a nice gesture, but if they don't know how to drive in these conditions, you are better leaving the rescue services to deal.

[chatman]

your d4d 2001 is a 4.2 version of the rav.

The advice already given is the best. On the 4.1, there is a diff lock which locks the wheels and gives fairly good traction - I think the 4.2 had a more auto version of this??

Mind that snow on top of black ice is lethal which is what we have up here. Take things slow, leave plenty of room for braking and keep a clear eye out for eejits who have no idea what they are doing. Helping someone who is stuck is a nice gesture, but if they don't know how to drive in these conditions, you are better leaving the rescue services to deal.

Every year we have eeejits who insist on doing the road speed dictated on the road no matter the conditions.... So tally for today's journey to work is...

1 car on roof in ditch in village, another in hedge round corner from my cottage.....

All a good drive to work this morning.... :yahoo:

[three5]

your d4d 2001 is a 4.2 version of the rav.

The advice already given is the best. On the 4.1, there is a diff lock which locks the wheels and gives fairly good traction - I think the 4.2 had a more auto version of this??

Mind that snow on top of black ice is lethal which is what we have up here. Take things slow, leave plenty of room for braking and keep a clear eye out for eejits who have no idea what they are doing. Helping someone who is stuck is a nice gesture, but if they don't know how to drive in these conditions, you are better leaving the rescue services to deal.

Every year we have eeejits who insist on doing the road speed dictated on the road no matter the conditions.... So tally for today's journey to work is...

1 car on roof in ditch in village, another in hedge round corner from my cottage.....

All a good drive to work this morning.... :yahoo:

Chatman,

Just looking out of my window this morning and then watching the performance of some of our local drivers, your post reminded me: The most obvious thing about four wheel drives that is most often forgotton is that they still only have four wheels like any other car. They therefore only have the same contact with the road as anything else and whilst the four wheel drive system will keep you going when others have given up - YOU STILL HAVE TO STOP THE DAMM THING & THE LAWS OF PHYSICS STILL APPLY! Ok, ABS does help a bit but you have a tonne and a half of metal moving and a very low coefficient of friction. As you say "Take things slow, leave plenty of room for braking".

My father came from Dublin so I was bought up with "eeejits" or "ejits" as Bothy put it - made my day to come across it again.

[Davrav]

YOU STILL HAVE TO STOP THE DAMM THING & THE LAWS OF PHYSICS STILL APPLY!

Yup, even though you may be holding the wheel and have control of the pedals etc., when the above take over you are merely a passenger.

[anchorman]

your d4d 2001 is a 4.2 version of the rav.

The advice already given is the best. On the 4.1, there is a diff lock which locks the wheels and gives fairly good traction - I think the 4.2 had a more auto version of this??

Mind that snow on top of black ice is lethal which is what we have up here. Take things slow, leave plenty of room for braking and keep a clear eye out for eejits who have no idea what they are doing. Helping someone who is stuck is a nice gesture, but if they don't know how to drive in these conditions, you are better leaving the rescue services to deal.

Every year we have eeejits who insist on doing the road speed dictated on the road no matter the conditions.... So tally for today's journey to work is...

1 car on roof in ditch in village, another in hedge round corner from my cottage.....

All a good drive to work this morning....

Chatman,

Just looking out of my window this morning and then watching the performance of some of our local drivers, your post reminded me: The most obvious thing about four wheel drives that is most often forgotton is that they still only have four wheels like any other car. They therefore only have the same contact with the road as anything else and whilst the four wheel drive system will keep you going when others have given up - YOU STILL HAVE TO STOP THE DAMM THING & THE LAWS OF PHYSICS STILL APPLY! Ok, ABS does help a bit but you have a tonne and a half of metal moving and a very low coefficient of friction. As you say "Take things slow, leave plenty of room for braking".

My father came from Dublin so I was bought up with "eeejits" or "ejits" as Bothy put it - made my day to come across it again.

Spooky man.

I sent an email to a good old mate of mine this morning about the very same subject and I swear I have just cut and pasted this out of the message;

"but just keep in mind it is a ton and half and the system cannot defy the laws of physics so common sense needs to be maintained!"

Great minds think alike!

[three5]

Great minds think alike!

Cheers Anchorman - I'm happy being able to think at all these days! Have you been testing the rail/wheel coefficient of friction today then - or is it a day off?

[Nightstalker]

:crybaby:I remember the fun I had last year with my RAV

This time round I've got a LC and where is the BEAST.... at my local MR T getting some warranty work done on her

Of all times when the LC could be booked in it had to be the day before it snowed.... not getting her back till Monday afternoon... By then the Snow will be gone or there'll only be slush left

Instead I'm driving/sliding about in a Prius That thing is pants on ice! got stuck a few times today specially on a T junction by our littlens nursery, the t-juntion has a sleeping coppa at it and I stopped on top of it with the front wheels slightly raised in comparison to the rear ones and I could'nt pull away! Had to reverse and take a run at it.... Kin pants car!! I want me 4x4 back!

Regards

Rob

B)

[rambler]

hi folks

well,well,well....thanks for all your replies,as you say drive patiently,keep distances open,allow more time for any braking needed ( if any at all).

my geolander a/t tires seem to do a great job :D ,very little sliding around....if any at all,even on fresh snow...got to work in colchester no probs..even at 7am,dark and very cold,with snow still falling.......horrid :(

so all good....now ,despite a 24hr power cut,we aint got gas here,so been cooking on log fire in lounge and lighting rooms with candles...but its bloomin cold

quite exiting really

[Fujisan]

Instead I'm driving/sliding about in a Prius That thing is pants on ice! got stuck a few times today specially on a T junction by our littlens nursery, the t-juntion has a sleeping coppa at it and I stopped on top of it with the front wheels slightly raised in comparison to the rear ones and I could'nt pull away! Had to reverse and take a run at it.... Kin pants car!! I want me 4x4 back!

Regards

Rob

B)

These guys seem to have no problems, Rob

Prius owners (admitedly on winter tyres) in Canada have no problem, in tonnes more snow than we'll ever see.

I think you are just to accustomed too the big power of the LC to pull you out of problems

Gently does it!

[anchorman]

Great minds think alike!

Cheers Anchorman - I'm happy being able to think at all these days! Have you been testing the rail/wheel coefficient of friction today then - or is it a day off?

At the time you wrote your note last night I was on my way to Blackpool with a train. They have no trouble in the snow or rain but leaves can stop them on the slightest gradient. Leaf fall is just about over now so no problems!

[bothwell_buyer]

The RAV is great - despite the untamed power... but the Previa mid engined model is like a ballerina on ice= a complete mind of its own with the front going one way and the rear deciding its own fate!! It does have abs hover, unlike the rav, which tells me quicker if the wheel/s lock. Then the transit van (ie the one that wasn't stolen this week out of the charity's 3) with the double rear wheel does its best - the heavier the load the better until you come to a hill!! haha

[Nightstalker]

Instead I'm driving/sliding about in a Prius That thing is pants on ice! got stuck a few times today specially on a T junction by our littlens nursery, the t-juntion has a sleeping coppa at it and I stopped on top of it with the front wheels slightly raised in comparison to the rear ones and I could'nt pull away! Had to reverse and take a run at it.... Kin pants car!! I want me 4x4 back!

Regards

Rob

B)

These guys seem to have no problems, Rob

Prius owners (admitedly on winter tyres) in Canada have no problem, in tonnes more snow than we'll ever see.

I think you are just to accustomed too the big power of the LC to pull you out of problems

Gently does it!

Your Probably right Fuj... the prius I've got aint the same model you have... its the previous one... fact that I've had the experience of driving both I find the one you have much better... I was hoping for the same car again but had to take my LC to Octagon in Bracknell rather than the Reading one as that's where the body shop is...

I just dont feel as safe in the prius than the LC... also the prius I'm driving seems to clunk alot when the engine switches from Battery to main engine and back... dont really like it as it catches me by suprise...

Anywho, getting my LC back on Monday... just in time for the snow to have gone

Regards

Rob

[Fujisan]

Your Probably right Fuj... the prius I've got aint the same model you have... its the previous one... fact that I've had the experience of driving both I find the one you have much better... I was hoping for the same car again but had to take my LC to Octagon in Bracknell rather than the Reading one as that's where the body shop is...

I just dont feel as safe in the prius than the LC... also the prius I'm driving seems to clunk alot when the engine switches from battery to main engine and back... dont really like it as it catches me by suprise...

Anywho, getting my LC back on Monday... just in time for the snow to have gone

Regards

Rob