Aygo Crash

[viper262]

All i can tell that is gonna happen from this is that more people will knock Toyota and the Aygo for not being safe but thats just not the case.

TWO pensioners were hurt during a road smash in Lofthouse.

Published Date:

15 February 2010

By Gavin Murray

A black coloured Toyota Aygo was heading along Leeds Road towards Wakefield and a green coloured Ford Escort was parked in the road when the incident happened at 12.15pm on Saturday.

An 83-year-old Castleford man was taken to Pinderfields Hospital suffering from chest pains and an elderly woman also suffered an injury to her arm.

One carriageway of the road was closed by police

Anyone who witnessed the collision and who has not already spoken to police should contact Normanton Road Traffic on 0845 60 60 606.

[Norfolk n Chance]

Can't really fault Toyota when it doesn't say what the 'incident' was

Not far from me that though!

[reece]

Escort was parked (so stationary) so a good chance empty?

83 year old man (driver?) plus elderly woman (his wife?) taken to hospital.

You don’t need to be Einstein to work out what’s happened there! It doesn’t matter what car the old fool was driving, just glad he didn’t kill anyone

[viper262]

oo i know i think old people should re take the test for safety reasons

[weevicky]

Once a person reaches 75 I think people should be retested at least every 3 years... I know it will cost a bit but will save lives. Doesn't matter what the guy was drivin....

[Jamesbelfast]

WTF!!

Does anyone know the cause of the accident or the age of the driver in this instance?? If not why speculate.

[viper262]

Once a person reaches 75 I think people should be retested at least every 3 years... I know it will cost a bit but will save lives. Doesn't matter what the guy was drivin....

Totally agree vicky the stats show that young men age between 17 - under 25 are the most at risk of causing an accident but it should consider old people as a higher risk as misjudgement and confusion can lead to as many accidents as speeding by younger drivers

[reece]

WTF!!

Does anyone know the cause of the accident or the age of the driver in this instance?? If not why speculate.

The clues are there, just read in between the lines.

[Jamesbelfast]

WTF!!

Does anyone know the cause of the accident or the age of the driver in this instance?? If not why speculate.

The clues are there, just read in between the lines.

Clue is just anther word for speculation and does not produce evidence. If you were involved in an accident how would you propose it to be investigated and any conclusions drawn.:)

[Unklian]

WTF!!

Does anyone know the cause of the accident or the age of the driver in this instance?? If not why speculate.

The clues are there, just read in between the lines.

Clue is just anther word for speculation and does not produce evidence. If you were involved in an accident how would you propose it to be investigated and any conclusions drawn.:)

Some years ago, I was involved in a very serious accident.

Nobody involved was speeding.

The local press made a big deal of it and said "Speed was a factor"

I eventually managed to contact the writer of the article.

I asked about speed being a factor, he replied......

"If all the vehicles had been stationary, the accident wouldn't have happened. Therefore, speed WAS a factor"

Without being there, nobody knows the full story.

Possibility......

"Careful mature driver swerves, thus avoiding killing child who runs away expecting to be in trouble".

No witnesses.

I can only assume that if it was one of your parents,

you might be less quick to jump to conclusions.

Ian.

[Jamesbelfast]

WTF!!

Does anyone know the cause of the accident or the age of the driver in this instance?? If not why speculate.

The clues are there, just read in between the lines.

Clue is just anther word for speculation and does not produce evidence. If you were involved in an accident how would you propose it to be investigated and any conclusions drawn.:)

Some years ago, I was involved in a very serious accident.

Nobody involved was speeding.

The local press made a big deal of it and said "Speed was a factor"

I eventually managed to contact the writer of the article.

Ia asked about speed being a factor, he replied......

"If all the vehicles had been stationary, the accident wouldn't have happened. Therefore, speed WAS a factor"

Without being there, nobody knows the full story.

Possibility......

"Careful mature driver swerves, thus avoiding killing child who runs away expecting to be in trouble".

No witnesses.

Ian.

Newly qualified young driver of 18 years swerves to miss a dog that run away and can't be traced"

Looks like the reporter wasn't telling lies - he/she was just being economic with the truth LOL!!

I remember having a discussion with a fire investigator and he advised me to never ever assume. He took out his chalk and wrote in large capital letters on the ground. ASSUME!! He then went on to explain that the word had a terrible habit of making an "*****" out of "U" and "ME" And speculation is something that should be left to Bookmakers.:)

[reece]

I still stand by my opinion until proven otherwise that the 83 year old has lost control (for whatever reason) and driven into another parked vehicle.

[Jamesbelfast]

I still stand by my opinion until proven otherwise that the 83 year old has lost control (for whatever reason) and driven into another parked vehicle.

I hope you aren't a Judge or Magistrate LOL!!

[weevicky]

To put it simply; all of our minds are saying "its got sfa to do with the aygo he was driving it was the old git that lost control" but noone is desperate to say it.....

appart from me :) x

[Angryhatter]

I have to agree, people over 70/75 should have to retake the test or at least be assessed and if they fail have their licence revoked.

For the few who are safe and have all there faculties in working order there are dozens more that don't.

One example is my Grandfather, he got to 75 and we had to take his licence away from him. Just wasn't safe.

[Parts-King]

Not sure where it was, somewhere in the North West anyway, but last week an 89 year old mounted the kerb, ran into a mother and child on the pavement, killed the child, Mother died a day or two later in hospital and the driver was pronounced dead at the scene, all very tragic. I think there has to be a point in your life when you just have to stop driving!

Kingo

[GIDDLEPIN]

Not sure where it was, somewhere in the North West anyway, but last week an 89 year old mounted the kerb, ran into a mother and child on the pavement, killed the child, Mother died a day or two later in hospital and the driver was pronounced dead at the scene, all very tragic. I think there has to be a point in your life when you just have to stop driving!

Kingo

Or have regular medicals for the privilege of driving like I have to ;)

[miss_d_bus]

I know of a lovelx old lady who still drives. The ooly problem is that it clear she's got the beginnings of dementia.

Clearly it a delicate subject for someone who's slowly becoming confused. A retest would avoid upsetting her with a family member in the firing line for taking the keys off her.

[Angryhatter]

Not sure where it was, somewhere in the North West anyway, but last week an 89 year old mounted the kerb, ran into a mother and child on the pavement, killed the child, Mother died a day or two later in hospital and the driver was pronounced dead at the scene, all very tragic. I think there has to be a point in your life when you just have to stop driving!

Kingo

It was some where up by Halifax (I believe), read about it in the news.

Was simply because the old guy couldn't control his car.

[zakelwe]

My mother in law wrote off someone else's car when the other car was parked in their own driveway. Imagine that happening to you? Said she had a migraine and blanked out Her husband has worn out 3 clutches on cars with less than 30 000 miles because he can't control the clutch pedal very well anymore. Will he get an automatic, no .. because he tows a caravan and thinks automatics can't pull caravans. He's pulling a caravan and has no clutch control? Seems logical to me he is going to screw his clutch up. Can you tell him this? No chance.

Mind you, next time 85 year old Ethel drives around the M25 against opposing traffic for 20 miles till pulled over then maybe it was a sticking gas pedal :D. How do they manage to do this, drive against oncoming traffic on multilane highways without knowing something was wrong? I'd need about 12 pints inside me and still I'd cotton on before them.

My mums ok though, can't drive and gets taxis everywhere.... sorted. I'll do the same when I am her age.

Andy

[Jan van de Wouw]

My 85 yo grandma still drives and I feel quite safe in the car with her!

In The Netherlands it's allready mandatory to have a medical

every 5 years from 70 onwards,but she has to have one

every 2 years because of some medical conditions.

She drives with confidence, sees everything around her and even

grumbles at the "old folk" doing 20 in a 30-zone and so on :D

[Unklian]

My 85 yo grandma still drives and I feel quite safe in the car with her!

In The Netherlands it's allready mandatory to have a medical

every 5 years from 70 onwards,but she has to have one

every 2 years because of some medical conditions.

She drives with confidence, sees everything around her and even

grumbles at the "old folk" doing 20 in a 30-zone and so on :D

I find that when I'm driving in the Netherlands or Belgium,

the standard of driving is better than in the UK.

(People will insist on driving on the "wrong" side of the road). :P

I'm sure it's down to the bicycle culture.

From an early age, people are on the roads. Their observation is much better at junctions etc.

They are very aware of other vehicles as they change to motorised tranport.

I think they remember how vulnerable they were.

Once that care is ingrained, you don't tend to lose it.

When I'm driving my Aygo or bike in the low countries, it is noticeable

how observant people are.

Bicycles have all but disappeared from our roads.

Mandatory checks should be in place though to catch the people who have

lost the ability to drive carefully. (Not the physical ability to drive but the observational / awareness skills).

Pulling out of junctions when you've not seen a vehicle approaching tends

to end up with dead people.

My 2p worth.

Ian.

[Jan van de Wouw]

When I'm driving my Aygo or bike in the low countries,

it is noticeable how observant people are.

Cyclists need to be observant, else they get run over every time they

run a red light (which they do all the time, even with traffic approaching)...

I've driven on your wrong side a couple of times and what I noticed is how

kind most people seem to be to people with LHD cars and foreign liecense plates...

Or it could be that I was driving a DeLorean most of the times I was there :D

[AygoFast]

All i can tell that is gonna happen from this is that more people will knock Toyota and the Aygo for not being safe but thats just not the case.

How is that NOT the case? There isn't enough detail to go by to make that assumption.