Why Aygo Over C1 And 107

[mrplebby]

Hi there,

My first post, i was just wondering why you choose the Aygo over the C1 and 107 when the Aygo is known to be more expensive, i havent purchased one of these yet, just weighing up the pros and cons first, also they appears to be no forum for the Citreon C1.

One of my main concerns are the water leaks into the footwell and boot and the clutch issues, have these been sorted out yet on newer models?

Thanks

Dave

[Loftylad]

Hi there,

My first post, i was just wondering why you choose the Aygo over the C1 and 107 when the Aygo is known to be more expensive, i havent purchased one of these yet, just weighing up the pros and cons first, also they appears to be no forum for the Citreon C1.

One of my main concerns are the water leaks into the footwell and boot and the clutch issues, have these been sorted out yet on newer models?

Thanks

Dave

Hi Dave

For me, It was simply the look of the Aygo. I have the "platinum" which has a really nice interior. I also prefer the alloys.

I wouldn't worry about the price difference, as this will be clawed back come resale time due to "percieved brand value" of the Toyota Badge! (silly, but true)

I'm sure your aware that they all three share the same platform, engine, gearbox, drivetrain etc. so it really does come down to which one you like the exterior look of.

The leaks problem seems to have been resolved by the fitting of extra seals.(mine leaked and has been cured)

The clutch "problem" will be across all three platforms, but I think both of these issues only affect a very small percentage of overall vehicles. Forums tend to be a great place for sounding out problems/issues, but also tend to put them under the microscope somewhat.

Lofty.

[mrplebby]

Hi there,

My first post, i was just wondering why you choose the Aygo over the C1 and 107 when the Aygo is known to be more expensive, i havent purchased one of these yet, just weighing up the pros and cons first, also they appears to be no forum for the Citreon C1.

One of my main concerns are the water leaks into the footwell and boot and the clutch issues, have these been sorted out yet on newer models?

Thanks

Dave

Hi Dave

For me, It was simply the look of the Aygo. I have the "platinum" which has a really nice interior. I also prefer the alloys.

I wouldn't worry about the price difference, as this will be clawed back come resale time due to "percieved brand value" of the Toyota Badge! (silly, but true)

I'm sure your aware that they all three share the same platform, engine, gearbox, drivetrain etc. so it really does come down to which one you like the exterior look of.

The leaks problem seems to have been resolved by the fitting of extra seals.(mine leaked and has been cured)

The clutch "problem" will be across all three platforms, but I think both of these issues only affect a very small percentage of overall vehicles. Forums tend to be a great place for sounding out problems/issues, but also tend to put them under the microscope somewhat.

Lofty.

Thanks for your quick response Lofty i have used forums for many years and usually you will only read the bad points about something as people only tend to use them when looking for info on repairs unless u are a fannatic of course lol.

Aygo Platinum is this full leather and do they have Aircon as standard.

Thanks

[AYGOgummy]

Hi,

I've got an Aygo Black... I did test-drive a 107 before I bought the Aygo but just preferred the Aygo's styling, the better customer care, and obviously the better resale values (though all three are stronger than average small car). I bought mine second-hand, it's just past three years old and it's never leaked - and obviously as Lofty has said, there is a fix for the leaky cars.

Highly recommended little car - everyone comments on the amount of space inside! Fun to drive too, you won't be disappointed. And it looks a bit less frantic than the other two in my opinion, though all three are strong cars.

:)

[Loftylad]

Aygo Platinum is this full leather and do they have Aircon as standard.

Thanks

It has the Alcantara/leather type stuff (front & rear) and a nice chunky leather steering wheel.

The a/c is a £500 option.

Lofty

[mrplebby]

Hi,

I've got an Aygo Black... I did test-drive a 107 before I bought the Aygo but just preferred the Aygo's styling, the better customer care, and obviously the better resale values (though all three are stronger than average small car). I bought mine second-hand, it's just past three years old and it's never leaked - and obviously as Lofty has said, there is a fix for the leaky cars.

Highly recommended little car - everyone comments on the amount of space inside! Fun to drive too, you won't be disappointed. And it looks a bit less frantic than the other two in my opinion, though all three are strong cars.

:)

Im just wanting my landrover discovery2 to sell now to raise the cash, they seems to be a massive amount of the C1/107 and these for sale i have noticed and a lot buying there second and third car.

[ihpj]

Each clone is pitched at a different market, but looks too can influence which one in particular appeals to an individual. However, when looking at what comes standard on the Aygo, in its various guises, the combination is hard to beat IMHO.

And if you were to spec. up a lower cost clone to the same level, cost is usually higher and then at the end of the day, you're getting a Toyota too. In my case, Toyota gave the biggest discount + Scrappage deal so got my business.

[PumpkinSteve]

I was undecided between the C1 and Aygo, although I previously owned a Yaris SR so I was drawn towards the Aygo because of my good experiences with that car. I think the C1 is possibly slightly better looking than the Aygo (I don't like the Peugeot at all) but at the end of the day I got a good deal on the Aygo (£8000 for a brand new Blue) so I went with that.

[cute black aygo]

At the end of the day i think as many people have said before on prevoius posts that it comes down to personal choice u get problems with every car aswell as some have one thing but not another i choose the aygo cause i think toyota have a sterling reputation and build gd cars others mite think diffrent i think they are also easily modified which maybe makes them more appealling to the younger generation

[mrplebby]

Thanks for all your help, i think i will be looking at a 09 platinum, just wondering do any of the C1's have a spec like the platinum with half leather?

Cheers

[geezbeez]

Believe there was a C1 CODE similar to Aygo Black? Personally I bought an Aygo Platinum because I found one at a good price,

better than I could find 107 or C1. Kind of wanted the Aygo anyway. Prefered the look.

Also in the 2009 facelift the Citroen + Pug are noticably different, the older cars look dated naken. particularly Citroen.

Aygo facelift is well barely noticable, original is slightly nicer than the later model, imo.

Also most of the Aygos sold seem to be higher spec models, Platinum,Black,Blue. leather seats + central locking easier to find. Where the Citroens and Pugs seem to be more common in base model.

-ve Dispite the Aygo/C1/107 being available with leather which is hard to find in other city cars. The seats are not the most comfortable, leather or not so dont get so hung up on the leather seats.

I Bought a 3 door. Noticed the 3 doors are definitely cheaper as some people will only buy 5 doors. Only annoyance:- seats dont have memory when you let people in back you need to re-adjust back rest.

Before buying check on Parkers site how much cars cost at start of 2009 or 2008. There are Aygo Platinums which when new cost £8500 which after 20,000 miles are still for sale for £8000. OK they are £9500 now.

Reasons to choose the Citroen/Pug (2) Better Colours, (5 door only) neat way rear doors are integrated,

Reason to choose Aygo. (3) Better dealer support. Most Aygos are higher spec, More classy , timeless style.

[ihpj]

On the issue of Dealer support, I think they are all as good as each other because it depends on your own relationship with the franchise. if you know where you stand with issues and are not hesitant to fight your corner - no-one can deny you. I have found Toyota no less or no more helpful. Yes they are polite and 'posh' but has anyone actually contacted Toyota GB? They usually seem rather dis-interested unless you really push them hard...and I mean hard.

I quite enjoy the odd tussle TBH - and my Dealer now tends to roll over now :P But don't think that you are buying into a radically different ownership experience just because it is badged a Toyota. mechanicals are mostly Toyota anayways...

[PumpkinSteve]

Thanks for all your help, i think i will be looking at a 09 platinum, just wondering do any of the C1's have a spec like the platinum with half leather?

Cheers

The C1 VTR+ has the same half leather seats as the Aygo platinum.

[AYGOgummy]

Having experienced Peugeot dealers and Citroen dealers, Toyota have been our best experience by far. There are large lounges/waiting areas whilst your car is being worked on/serviced or whatever, complete with tea/coffee making facilities, newspapers, biscuits etc... these aren't necessarily available at Citroen and Peugeot dealers. The showroom atmosphere is also more pleasant. The staff are noticeably more polite and helpful. Of course, this varies heavily from dealer to dealer, area to area, but for me, Citroen, in particular, never made an impression - Toyota certainly have, and Peugeot were somewhere in the middle. The Aygo definitely has slightly better residual values too - this is evident from the marginally higher used prices, but all three are better than average in the depreciation league. And I also agree that the Aygo looks more classy and timeless - the gaping mouths of the other two aren't wearing quite as well in my opinion. But they're all great cars. And you're welcome on this website whichever model you go for - very handy for tips, general info

[ihpj]

Sorry mate, I don't care for the large open waiting areas or pleasant staff. What I want to know is that if my car breaks, they will fix it and at reasonable cost.

If I want views or pleasant conversation or tasteful coffee I go to people/companies that specialise in those things. I'd rather pay for humble surroundings and quality work rather than flash surroundings and expensive bills.

I agree that Toyota Dealerships have good ambiance, but at the end of the day, I don't want them charging £300+ to change front pads/discs on an _Aygo_ because they have to have labour rates of circa £90+ VAT per hour. I can't see how Lexus or BMW can justify those rates (which incidentally are circa £120 +VAT) let alone Toyota.

[AYGOgummy]

Sorry mate, I don't care for the large open waiting areas or pleasant staff. What I want to know is that if my car breaks, they will fix it and at reasonable cost.

If I want views or pleasant conversation or tasteful coffee I go to people/companies that specialise in those things. I'd rather pay for humble surroundings and quality work rather than flash surroundings and expensive bills.

I agree that Toyota Dealerships have good ambiance, but at the end of the day, I don't want them charging £300+ to change front pads/discs on an _Aygo_ because they have to have labour rates of circa £90+ VAT per hour. I can't see how Lexus or BMW can justify those rates (which incidentally are circa £120 +VAT) let alone Toyota.

Well, all I'm saying is that it helps, I think a lot of people find the dealer experience quite important, as well as costs and quality of work (both of which I think are very good from Toyota). I was just giving the original poster a bit of insight into what I've experienced from the other brands, seeing as they are asking why we chose Aygos over the other two. :) Apologies if it seemed like I was disagreeing with you.

[ihpj]

...I think a lot of people find the dealer experience quite important...I was just giving the original poster a bit of insight into what I've experienced from the other brands, seeing as they are asking why we chose Aygos over the other two. :) Apologies if it seemed like I was disagreeing with you.

Sorry if I came across as dismissive :( It wasn't my intention or idea to.

[mrplebby]

Sorry i didnt mean to cause any arguments on your forum i only asked why u choose the Aygo ha ha

[AYGOgummy]

LOL

[Uncle Bob]

My thoughts on the subject...The AYGO has a better resale value than the C1 or 107 because its a brand name that customers trust ( recalls aside ! ), both Peugeot and Citroen come out well below expected standards , you only have to see the Auto Express customer satisfaction survey to see that. If the truth be told the AYGO has very little to do with Toyota Japan, they don't sell the model in the homeland as it seems to be a French design ,and build in the Czech republic that pumps out all 3 models.

Toyota's input to the project seems to be ,suppling the engines and transmission the rest is French through and through.

My personal opinion is the AYGO is the better looking of the 3 models

[ihpj]

I can't see a reason why the PUG/Cit clones would come out lower than the Aygo in terms of satisfaction? It is essentially the very same car at the end of the day, not built any differently than the others on the same factory at the same production line.

As for the Aygo holding its value more, well it should do given it costs comparatively more than its stable mates ;)

[AYGOgummy]

I can't see a reason why the PUG/Cit clones would come out lower than the Aygo in terms of satisfaction? It is essentially the very same car at the end of the day, not built any differently than the others on the same factory at the same production line.

As for the Aygo holding its value more, well it should do given it costs comparatively more than its stable mates ;)

I think it's more the overall brand rather than those individual cars - I reckon they'll be pretty much on a level playing field. It's the brands as a whole - Peugeot and Citroen - people see Toyota as a more reliable/trusty brand. I never really had a real problem with Citroen and Peugeot, but the way the rest of their ranges (307, C3 etc) end up at the bottom of the league tables, I can see why people are put off. I'd be surprised if the 107 and C1 finished poorly in any owner surveys; come to think of it, I don't think any of the three have featured in the Auto Express surveys :(

[Teemu]

I had four reasons getting the Aygo instead of the C1 or 107.

1. Better resale value, comes with the Toyota Badge.

2. Better service at the dealer, the one who sold the car gave excellent service and made a great deal. Also have had excellent service at a local small Toyota garage.

3. Longer warranty, not sure about UK but in Finland Toyota has 3 years/100 000 km and Peugeot and Citroen only 2 years.

4. Most important, liked the Aygo design much more!

So far with almosta 18 months I have really enjoyed driving Aygo!

Good luck hunting down a reasonably priced Aygo, they can be hard to find.

[Juddian]

Well Toyota have upped their game by giving the 5 year warranty, coupled with the beating to death by ugly stick that Pug and Cit did to their models at facelift time i'm surprised anyone buys the other offerings now.

I don't own an Aygo though a family member has just bought a Black with an excellent deal too, i do however run a just under 3 year old Hilux and the dealer (Sims Northampton) has been superb from day one with the service dept it's usual efficent self, they do not rip their customers off either, i wouldn't hesitate to by Toyota everytime.

[Essex Toura]

i get my aygo as i found that i got more bang for my buck, plus i like the look of the aygo more, and was cheaper to buy then the french ones, and had toyota's in the past