Dead Celica :-(

[ToyotaTony]

:-(

Hi Folks, I have owned my celica since March..... and I have fallen in love!! but my baby is sick...

I guess when I bought it I knew it was running a little warm so knew the head gasket would need replacing and a skim....

So when it started to overheat properly, I replaced the thermostat in hope.... and then had the radiator pressue tested.... so ended up in my Local Toyota dealer with them asking for £942, when I had finished laughing I went off into worcester to find someone to do it for a reasonable price.... which I did.... Took it in friday... it will be ready by monday or failing that wednesday sir......

Four weeks later I gave up and am just about to rescue my damsel in distress..... heads have been done, cam belt changed, but she wont GO!!!

SO somewhere along the line they messed up and to be honest I have given up on them she will have to be towed somewhere else and more money spent (I haven't paid the full bill)

so two questions:

1) does anyone know a decent garage to help me in Worcestershire preferably with a tow truck?

2) Symptoms are (this is what I have been told!!! so hope it is true) Spark at plugs, fuel at injection. runs with 'quick start squirted into cylinders - supposedly. car was running fine before taking it to the garage apart from overheating - it wasn't allowed to cook. Car is a 1992 Celica convertible in red imported in 96. Garage reckons the timing is right. Car has a Cobra alarm fitted.

My feeling is they have broken something or not reconnected something or something needs a reset - any ideas? - please I miss her!

I am driving a vauxhall Corsa and everytime I get in it I feel depressed.... guy had someone look at it who said that the crank sensor was not working but this garage guy says it doesnt have one. it has the 3S-GE engine - no idea what revision, head has been off - so he says, and I know they have done the cam belt and have seen them messing with the timing, he says fuel pump is running.

Save my relationship? give me councelling? the sun will be gone...

Tony jimmydonut2@hotmail.co.uk

P.S: know any good roof repairers - someone tried to break in!?

[Fawbs]

I reckon its your alarm or immobiliser more than likely. This usually turns out to be the case, if theres a spark, fuel and air by all rights it should start if it turns over.

Never take it to a toyota dealership, really not much point the prices they charge.

Mike

[ToyotaTony]

Thanx Mike - might be worth taking it to them for diagnosis - it would cut all that guess work out!

Think immobilisers stop sparks or fuel pumps or both... so it is weird it apparently has fuel and sparks...

dangerous combination...

the immobiliser has a flashing light - will check if it goes out as it should with key inserted later today.

Tony :-)

[dawesy]

sounds like the timing is out, either cam and/or ignition.

worth checking for fault codes from the ecu (should be a guide but basically some terminals in a small box in the engine bay marked 'diagnostics'

use a piece of wire (paper-clip etc) and bridge the terminals marked 'E1' and 'TE1'

then turn the ignition on but don't start.

the engine management light should flash in pulses.

if it is F F F F F F F F F F F F F F then there are no codes.

if it flashes F F F F F _________F F F F then that is code 54, all you need to do is count the flashes to work out the codes. it may have more than one code stored but it will keep cycling through them so when you get back to the same code that is them all.

if you can post them up here and we'll see if we can work them out for you.

[ToyotaTony]

Fabulous thank-you...

[toytech80]

HAS THE HEAD BEEN OFF ALSO ARE THER ANY CODES IN THE ENGINE ECU,DOES THE ENGINE LIGHT COME ON AT ALL,HAS THE Battery BEEN DICONNECTED AND DOES IT HAVE THE TOYOTA ALARM REMOTE WITH THE RED AND BLACK BUTTONS,HEY I WORK FOR A DEALER AND IM WORTH EVERY PENNY HA HA

[ToyotaTony]

..... lol will check...

How much do you get tho mate?

They charge £70 an hour... lol

[Old Red Celica]

The timing could be 180 deg out.

[ToyotaTony]

The timing could be 180 deg out.

To be honest I suspect something like this - pain in the bum as they have had it four weeks - I asked the garage to do it as I suspected I would not have time to do the heads - and didnt have a spare car - curteosy car was really useful though I hate it!

I have changed engines and stuff in the past, and if I had put an hour or two a week I would have fixed it by now! for perhaps £100

The garage aren't all bad they offered to tow it to another garage - so decided to do that - said they would take it thursday, then 11:30 friday - still isn't there and the new garage is 2 miles from the first one - they are giving it one hour of diagnostics when they get it? adjusting the timing? an hour I would figure...

Thanx for your support will let you guys know what it is..... various suspects; Timing, immobiliser, Crank sensor, lean on fuel..

Tony