New Owner

[siray123]

Hi there.

Just bought a 2007 Yaris D-4D Zinc,due to pick it up at the weekend.

Hoping its pretty bullet proof. I used to own a yaris t sport about 4 years ago (had it quite modified). I remember some names 'kirby', 'clarky' and 'matttsport' dont know if these guys are still around? :).

I have a few questions regarding the car...

1. Haven't picked it up yet but just wondering what things to look out for and possible areas of concern?

2. Any tweaks or things to watch out for?

3. What are servicing costs like, are there different stages? car has just had it 40k service. I usually do basic stuff myself like oil+filter+air filter.

4. Is it worth remapping it, for extra power and mpg.

5. The drivers seats cloth seems to have stretched slightly is this a common fault?

Thanks in advance.

[Raistlin]

Welcome to the club

[alfiejts]

Welcome back...

1) Not aware of any areas of concern myself...

2) Tweaks - Get yourself a set of Philips Silvervision indicator bulbs - look great in the front of the car and take away the orange look... (and get proper philips ones not other makes as they aren't as good....). Also suggest a set of Philips X-treme vision H4 bulbs for the headlight - make a visible difference to brightness and also they are "chromed" and look really good inside the headlight too.

3) Servicing - no different to petrol Yaris - just ordinary "diy" stuff.

4) Remapping - can't comment on the Yaris - I am aware of successes on other makes - Be careful because if you do remap and you don't notify your insurance company, you'll void your insurance....

5) Surprised by drivers seat. Both mine are OK, but they're still young.... Our 8 year old Mk1 was still OK in this respect after eight years....

But - Be careful to look after your turbo. After a motorway run or any other really hard driving, let it idle for a couple of miutes to cool down before you turn the engine off (especially such as when pulling into a motorway services or pulling off the motorway...). If you don't the turbo will still be red hot when the engine stops, will vapourise the oil in the bearings and will do itself no good.

My Audi manual specifically warns you to do this and its good advice for all turbos...

[siray123]

Thanks.

I though oil with turbos wasnt an issue anymore with the advert of turbo timers etc?

I probably will upgrade the H4 bulbs they are usually pants lol.

[dervdave]

I though oil with turbos wasnt an issue anymore with the advert of turbo timers etc?

Has yours got one then ? :)

[acetip]

Welcome back...

1) Not aware of any areas of concern myself...

2) Tweaks - Get yourself a set of Philips Silvervision indicator bulbs - look great in the front of the car and take away the orange look... (and get proper philips ones not other makes as they aren't as good....). Also suggest a set of Philips X-treme vision H4 bulbs for the headlight - make a visible difference to brightness and also they are "chromed" and look really good inside the headlight too.

3) Servicing - no different to petrol Yaris - just ordinary "diy" stuff.

4) Remapping - can't comment on the Yaris - I am aware of successes on other makes - Be careful because if you do remap and you don't notify your insurance company, you'll void your insurance....

5) Surprised by drivers seat. Both mine are OK, but they're still young.... Our 8 year old Mk1 was still OK in this respect after eight years....

But - Be careful to look after your turbo. After a motorway run or any other really hard driving, let it idle for a couple of miutes to cool down before you turn the engine off (especially such as when pulling into a motorway services or pulling off the motorway...). If you don't the turbo will still be red hot when the engine stops, will vapourise the oil in the bearings and will do itself no good.

My Audi manual specifically warns you to do this and its good advice for all turbos...

a 1991 passat i used to own had a water cooled turbo ( diesel encine )the coolant was off the main system.

it had small electric water pump with a temp sensor fitted and should you stop the engine to quickly after high speed use, the sensor would switch on the pump and circulate the coolant around the turbo if the temp was too high.

as this pump was little used and to stop seizing through lack of use each each time the starter motor was used a supply when to the pumps electric motor and gave it a few spins.

i never did know if it ever came use.but i never shut the engine down straight away.

a often thought about testing the sensor but the only way would have been to remove to do that.

i tested the pump a few times by putting a feed to it,and it was very quiet.

so i would not have noticed if it had switched on.

[gar]

The turbo cooling IS still a factor, as is warming it up properly before giving it some "Beans"!

Even if you thought it was not needed, would it be safer to do, or to not do?

BTW, I was driving home yesterday, when I joined the A13 at Basildon, there was a huge pall of smoke, following a car along. Seemed to stop, then happened again as the car started to slow for an exit slip.... Typical of a blown turbo. It also produces a horrid burnt oil smell. Definatelt likely to get a tug by the fuzz (?) If they spot it!

[siray123]

No it doesnt.

I think the issue is with oil carbonising (as to what alfiejts said) but more of an issue with high performance cars with turbos which the yaris isnt High performance :D. I think simply backing off for a minute or two before you stop at a motorways service will be suffice.

However i agree alfies point is valid just not so much an issue with a 89bhp yaris.

I though oil with turbos wasnt an issue anymore with the advert of turbo timers etc?

Has yours got one then ? :)

[alfiejts]

Page 297 of my Yaris manual tells you to let the diesel engine idle before switching it off, as follows:

City driving - No requirement

After driving above 50mph - About 20 secs

After driving above 63mph - About 1 minute

After sustained driving above 63mph or after climbing stepp hills - About 2 minutes

There's also a big notice in the book in the diesel section underneath the above table:

"NOTICE - Do not turn the engine off immediately after a heavy load has been placed on it in order to prevent engine damage".

As Siray says, the issue is that if you turn the engine off whilst the turbo is still very hot, the oil will carbonise in the turbo bearings - and that's basically the biggest cause of failed turbos....

[siray123]

Thanks