Air Con D4D

[vincentf]

I have a 2006 2.2spirt D4D and i have been told that a air con pipe is leaking which went removed will most proberly damage the compressor, they are also saying the only place to get spares is Toyota main dealers, the pipe alone is over £170, has anyone else had a problem like this and does anyone know of a cheaper source for spares

[The Cav]

I have a 2006 2.2spirt D4D and i have been told that a air con pipe is leaking which went removed will most proberly damage the compressor, they are also saying the only place to get spares is Toyota main dealers, the pipe alone is over £170, has anyone else had a problem like this and does anyone know of a cheaper source for spares

try the car breakers there must be a toyota specialist breaker

have a look in the back of Auto Trader for specialist breakers

Why will removing the pipe damage the compressor??

im an engineer and if you go carefully enough if the pipe is made to be removed then all should be ok

just take your time

[t-spiritpete]

I have a 2006 2.2spirt D4D and i have been told that a air con pipe is leaking which went removed will most proberly damage the compressor, they are also saying the only place to get spares is Toyota main dealers, the pipe alone is over £170, has anyone else had a problem like this and does anyone know of a cheaper source for spares

Hi mate, if you can get the pipe off take it to a local hydraulic hose/steel pipe repairer, Pirtek is a national company who may help. What you need them to do is cut the pipe where it is leaking and put in a coupling, making sure it remains the exact length and shape of the original, they will be used to making pipes that stand a lot more pressure than your aircon system. Then refit it yourself (or they may help) and then pop along to Kwik Fit to have the system re-gassed, yes i know some on here don't like Kwik fit but you did ask for the cheapest option..

Hope this helps, regards ..... Pete.

[just miko]

I have a 2006 2.2spirt D4D and i have been told that a air con pipe is leaking which went removed will most proberly damage the compressor, they are also saying the only place to get spares is Toyota main dealers, the pipe alone is over £170, has anyone else had a problem like this and does anyone know of a cheaper source for spares

Hi mate, if you can get the pipe off take it to a local hydraulic hose/steel pipe repairer, Pirtek is a national company who may help. What you need them to do is cut the pipe where it is leaking and put in a coupling, making sure it remains the exact length and shape of the original, they will be used to making pipes that stand a lot more pressure than your aircon system. Then refit it yourself (or they may help) and then pop along to Kwik Fit to have the system re-gassed, yes i know some on here don't like Kwik fit but you did ask for the cheapest option..

Hope this helps, regards ..... Pete.

Kwik Fit are not, by a long way the cheapest option !!!!!!!. Ask me nicely, and i could tell you a story that would make your blood clot in a nano-second concerning them.

[Q.S.]

I have a 2006 2.2spirt D4D and i have been told that a air con pipe is leaking which went removed will most proberly damage the compressor, they are also saying the only place to get spares is Toyota main dealers, the pipe alone is over £170, has anyone else had a problem like this and does anyone know of a cheaper source for spares

try the car breakers there must be a toyota specialist breaker

have a look in the back of Auto Trader for specialist breakers

Why will removing the pipe damage the compressor??

im an engineer and if you go carefully enough if the pipe is made to be removed then all should be ok

just take your time

Removing the pipe allows moisture to get into the system, this is what causes the damage. IF you do remove the pipe, seal the open pipe ends left on the vehicle. Consequently, leaving the leaking pipe in place will also allow moisture in, once the refridgerant has all leaked out.

[Roker]

I have a 2006 2.2spirt D4D and i have been told that a air con pipe is leaking which went removed will most proberly damage the compressor, they are also saying the only place to get spares is Toyota main dealers, the pipe alone is over £170, has anyone else had a problem like this and does anyone know of a cheaper source for spares

try the car breakers there must be a toyota specialist breaker

have a look in the back of Auto Trader for specialist breakers

Why will removing the pipe damage the compressor??

im an engineer and if you go carefully enough if the pipe is made to be removed then all should be ok

just take your time

Removing the pipe allows moisture to get into the system, this is what causes the damage. IF you do remove the pipe, seal the open pipe ends left on the vehicle. Consequently, leaving the leaking pipe in place will also allow moisture in, once the refridgerant has all leaked out.

I had the pipe replaced recently, (leaking around the Battery area) It seems a common fault, a Toyota quality problem, the bends are stressing the pipe and caused a pin hole. I bought some stainless steel Swagelock fitting to fix it, but did not have the time to remove the pipe, it cost me €400 to replace, another post used aluminium Durafix welding rods and soldered the hole with the pipe in place.

As for damaging the compressor, the workshop manual say do not run without refrigerant gas in the system, the reason being that the oil in the gas is a bit like a 2 stroke, it lubricates the compressor, the older compressors had a clutch, the new type has variable vanes and is constantly engaged. The system must be depressurise by a AC dealer first

[t-spiritpete]

I have a 2006 2.2spirt D4D and i have been told that a air con pipe is leaking which went removed will most proberly damage the compressor, they are also saying the only place to get spares is Toyota main dealers, the pipe alone is over £170, has anyone else had a problem like this and does anyone know of a cheaper source for spares

Hi mate, if you can get the pipe off take it to a local hydraulic hose/steel pipe repairer, Pirtek is a national company who may help. What you need them to do is cut the pipe where it is leaking and put in a coupling, making sure it remains the exact length and shape of the original, they will be used to making pipes that stand a lot more pressure than your aircon system. Then refit it yourself (or they may help) and then pop along to Kwik Fit to have the system re-gassed, yes i know some on here don't like Kwik fit but you did ask for the cheapest option..

Hope this helps, regards ..... Pete.

Kwik Fit are not, by a long way the cheapest option !!!!!!!. Ask me nicely, and i could tell you a story that would make your blood clot in a nano-second concerning them.

Hi mate, please please could you tell me the Kwik Fit story, I am no fan of them honestly so fire away but did they really get aircon wrong?? Brakes, tyres and servicing maybe but Aircon!.

PS. I will have some Warfrin at the ready to stop the blood clotting. .

Best regards Pete.

[Q.S.]

I have a 2006 2.2spirt D4D and i have been told that a air con pipe is leaking which went removed will most proberly damage the compressor, they are also saying the only place to get spares is Toyota main dealers, the pipe alone is over £170, has anyone else had a problem like this and does anyone know of a cheaper source for spares

try the car breakers there must be a toyota specialist breaker

have a look in the back of Auto Trader for specialist breakers

Why will removing the pipe damage the compressor??

im an engineer and if you go carefully enough if the pipe is made to be removed then all should be ok

just take your time

Removing the pipe allows moisture to get into the system, this is what causes the damage. IF you do remove the pipe, seal the open pipe ends left on the vehicle. Consequently, leaving the leaking pipe in place will also allow moisture in, once the refridgerant has all leaked out.

I had the pipe replaced recently, (leaking around the Battery area) It seems a common fault, a Toyota quality problem, the bends are stressing the pipe and caused a pin hole. I bought some stainless steel Swagelock fitting to fix it, but did not have the time to remove the pipe, it cost me €400 to replace, another post used aluminium Durafix welding rods and soldered the hole with the pipe in place.

As for damaging the compressor, the workshop manual say do not run without refrigerant gas in the system, the reason being that the oil in the gas is a bit like a 2 stroke, it lubricates the compressor, the older compressors had a clutch, the new type has variable vanes and is constantly engaged. The system must be depressurise by a AC dealer first

"the workshop manual say do not run without refrigerant gas in the system,"

The air con simply will not run without refrigerant in the system, the low pressure switch is there to prevent it from running should a leak occur.

I was under the impression that the newer ones still have a clutch but do not 'Cycle' simply using a variable compressor instead. The compressor is still "switched on" via the electric clutch. Maybe I got it wrong?

[Roker]

I have a 2006 2.2spirt D4D and i have been told that a air con pipe is leaking which went removed will most proberly damage the compressor, they are also saying the only place to get spares is Toyota main dealers, the pipe alone is over £170, has anyone else had a problem like this and does anyone know of a cheaper source for spares

try the car breakers there must be a toyota specialist breaker

have a look in the back of Auto Trader for specialist breakers

Why will removing the pipe damage the compressor??

im an engineer and if you go carefully enough if the pipe is made to be removed then all should be ok

just take your time

Removing the pipe allows moisture to get into the system, this is what causes the damage. IF you do remove the pipe, seal the open pipe ends left on the vehicle. Consequently, leaving the leaking pipe in place will also allow moisture in, once the refridgerant has all leaked out.

I had the pipe replaced recently, (leaking around the Battery area) It seems a common fault, a Toyota quality problem, the bends are stressing the pipe and caused a pin hole. I bought some stainless steel Swagelock fitting to fix it, but did not have the time to remove the pipe, it cost me €400 to replace, another post used aluminium Durafix welding rods and soldered the hole with the pipe in place.

As for damaging the compressor, the workshop manual say do not run without refrigerant gas in the system, the reason being that the oil in the gas is a bit like a 2 stroke, it lubricates the compressor, the older compressors had a clutch, the new type has variable vanes and is constantly engaged. The system must be depressurise by a AC dealer first

"the workshop manual say do not run without refrigerant gas in the system,"

The air con simply will not run without refrigerant in the system, the low pressure switch is there to prevent it from running should a leak occur.

I was under the impression that the newer ones still have a clutch but do not 'Cycle' simply using a variable compressor instead. The compressor is still "switched on" via the electric clutch. Maybe I got it wrong?

Quote from manual ( That is how it is spelled):

(9. DO NOT OPERATE ENGINE AND COMPRESSOR

WITH NO REFRIGERANT IS FILLED

CAUTION:

This may damage the inside of the compressor because

the compressor parts always moves regardless of whether

the A/C system is turned on or off.)

I stand to be corrected about the clutch, but I did a bit of research and that was my conclusion.

[andy996tt]

My pipe has gone in the exact same place. All the oil sprayed over the engine bay near the Battery when refilled.

How many parts in the engine bay will I need to remove to get to the pipe ??

Ta

[Mooly]

There has to be a clutch, not just for safety or to turn the system on/off, but to disconnect the compressor when climatic conditions aren't correct. Try running aircon when when it's -50C outside.