Rav4 D4-D 2.0 Stops While Driving

[Vincent Riebroek]

Hi all, I'm very happy I found this forum since I can't find a good one in Holland, where I live.

I really really hope someone can help me!

My parents own a Toyota RAV4 D4-D 2.0 from 2003. It has 183.000 km on the clock.

They are on holiday with a caravan in Germany and Austria. When they left a week ago an stil in Holland the car stopped on them on the motorway, they had to be towed to the nearest Toyota dealer.

There the diagnose was that the underpressure regulator of the turbo (I hope I translated that one correct) with partnumber 25819-27040 and a vacuum hose of the valve regulator (don't have the partnumber) was replaced.

The next day they were on their way!

But, 400 km later it happened again! The German ADAC arrived on the scene. They were able to drive again after they restarted the car and the ADAC guy followed them as a precaution.

In the German garage they diagnosed it as a defective pumpkit supply (partnumber 04221-27011). The german guy told them that the part that was replaced in Holland never breaks down. He was 100% conviced that the problem was now solved.

So they went on their way and drove a few 100 km without a problem. But yesterday, in Austria it happened again!! They called the ADAC again and they couldn't find anything. If you stop the car and restart, it runs without a problem. The only thing this guy could find in the computer was an error code P1250.

The last time it happened they were going up a hill, so the car must deliver a lot of power. Maybe this is a good hint on what's the problem?

The Dutch ANWB won't help them because in their eyes the car is not broken since it runs (!!). They are (understandable) very afraid to drive home with the caravan, it happens unexpectedly and it you're going up there are likely to be people close behind the caravan.

I really hope someone can shed some light on this problem! THanks for any answer!

regards,

Vincent

[Vincent Riebroek]

Just spoke to my parents over Skype.

The car doesn't actually stops but goes into crawl mode, you can only go for about 10 km/h until you stop the car and restart.

[Nemo2000]

Just spoke to my parents over Skype.

The car doesn't actually stops but goes into crawl mode, you can only go for about 10 km/h until you stop the car and restart.

I had a problem like that many years ago with an old Ford, caused simply by a lump of dirt in the fuel system. After the car had been running for a while the dirt would work it's way thru the fuel pipe and block the carburettor intake, so the car just limped along as it was being starved of fuel. Stop the car, switch off the engine, and after a few minutes the dirt would have drifted back down the fuel pipe under gravity - and off we went again!

I wonder if your problem is somehow similar?

[Vincent Riebroek]

Hi thank you for your reply.

Well, since the hole of a diesel injector is smaller than human hair and very very vulnerable for even the tiniest piece of dirt I don't think that's the problem. Even driving around without an air intake filter can destroy a lot in a modern day diesel and can easily cause hundreds of pounds worth of damage.

Seems that the computer notices a problem and sets the car in crawl mode to prevent further damage.

I still don't know what causes this problem yet. Thanks for thinking though! Appreciate it!

[anchorman]

Welcome to the club Vincent.

This is not uncommon on this era of RAV. The fault usually stems from the SCVs (see pinned section) or the VSV which controls the turbo pressure. When either go out of range the engine goes into limp mode to protect itself from undue stress. As yours has been in limp mode it will have stored a fault code so just check what it is and come back to us. You can't rely on it being the same as before. You can buy a code reader for about 25 Euro off eBay but your car is borderline on whether it is compatible. It would be better to borrow one to try and then invest.

[igormus]

Hi thank you for your reply.

Well, since the hole of a diesel injector is smaller than human hair and very very vulnerable for even the tiniest piece of dirt I don't think that's the problem. Even driving around without an air intake filter can destroy a lot in a modern day diesel and can easily cause hundreds of pounds worth of damage.

Seems that the computer notices a problem and sets the car in crawl mode to prevent further damage.

I still don't know what causes this problem yet. Thanks for thinking though! Appreciate it!

Hi Vincent

My I request you to check with water availability in the fuel fiter? Check with draining plug.

The SCV circle is the 2nd for checking + the 3rd are you sure your fine fuel filter is able to pass diesel depending on the engine load???

Cheers/Igor

[rav4Liam]

Hi all, I'm very happy I found this forum since I can't find a good one in Holland, where I live.

I really really hope someone can help me!

My parents own a Toyota RAV4 D4-D 2.0 from 2003. It has 183.000 km on the clock.

They are on holiday with a caravan in Germany and Austria. When they left a week ago an stil in Holland the car stopped on them on the motorway, they had to be towed to the nearest Toyota dealer.

There the diagnose was that the underpressure regulator of the turbo (I hope I translated that one correct) with partnumber 25819-27040 and a vacuum hose of the valve regulator (don't have the partnumber) was replaced.

The next day they were on their way!

But, 400 km later it happened again! The German ADAC arrived on the scene. They were able to drive again after they restarted the car and the ADAC guy followed them as a precaution.

In the German garage they diagnosed it as a defective pumpkit supply (partnumber 04221-27011). The german guy told them that the part that was replaced in Holland never breaks down. He was 100% conviced that the problem was now solved.

So they went on their way and drove a few 100 km without a problem. But yesterday, in Austria it happened again!! They called the ADAC again and they couldn't find anything. If you stop the car and restart, it runs without a problem. The only thing this guy could find in the computer was an error code P1250.

The last time it happened they were going up a hill, so the car must deliver a lot of power. Maybe this is a good hint on what's the problem?

The Dutch ANWB won't help them because in their eyes the car is not broken since it runs (!!). They are (understandable) very afraid to drive home with the caravan, it happens unexpectedly and it you're going up there are likely to be people close behind the caravan.

I really hope someone can shed some light on this problem! THanks for any answer!

regards,

Vincent

Hi all,

I'm new to the Forum, hope I'm doing this right !

I just bought (two weeks ago) a Rav4 2L D4D 2005 model and had the same problem last week, also in the morning it starts and cuts out and sometimes starts on the second attempt, sometimes splutters and will not rev on the second attempt, then the light comes on. It drives away ok then and the light goes off after two or three stop starts.

On several occasions, before I cold start, I pumped the fuel filter plunger to build up the pressure and the engine starts on the first attempt, so I fittd a non return valve to the fuel line befor the filter in case the fuel was draining back that way over night, but alas it made no difference.

Any suggestions ?

Thanks

Liam

[igormus]

Hi all, I'm very happy I found this forum since I can't find a good one in Holland, where I live.

I really really hope someone can help me!

My parents own a Toyota RAV4 D4-D 2.0 from 2003. It has 183.000 km on the clock.

They are on holiday with a caravan in Germany and Austria. When they left a week ago an stil in Holland the car stopped on them on the motorway, they had to be towed to the nearest Toyota dealer.

There the diagnose was that the underpressure regulator of the turbo (I hope I translated that one correct) with partnumber 25819-27040 and a vacuum hose of the valve regulator (don't have the partnumber) was replaced.

The next day they were on their way!

But, 400 km later it happened again! The German ADAC arrived on the scene. They were able to drive again after they restarted the car and the ADAC guy followed them as a precaution.

In the German garage they diagnosed it as a defective pumpkit supply (partnumber 04221-27011). The german guy told them that the part that was replaced in Holland never breaks down. He was 100% conviced that the problem was now solved.

So they went on their way and drove a few 100 km without a problem. But yesterday, in Austria it happened again!! They called the ADAC again and they couldn't find anything. If you stop the car and restart, it runs without a problem. The only thing this guy could find in the computer was an error code P1250.

The last time it happened they were going up a hill, so the car must deliver a lot of power. Maybe this is a good hint on what's the problem?

The Dutch ANWB won't help them because in their eyes the car is not broken since it runs (!!). They are (understandable) very afraid to drive home with the caravan, it happens unexpectedly and it you're going up there are likely to be people close behind the caravan.

I really hope someone can shed some light on this problem! THanks for any answer!

regards,

Vincent

Hi all,

I'm new to the Forum, hope I'm doing this right !

I just bought (two weeks ago) a Rav4 2L D4D 2005 model and had the same problem last week, also in the morning it starts and cuts out and sometimes starts on the second attempt, sometimes splutters and will not rev on the second attempt, then the light comes on. It drives away ok then and the light goes off after two or three stop starts.

On several occasions, before I cold start, I pumped the fuel filter plunger to build up the pressure and the engine starts on the first attempt, so I fittd a non return valve to the fuel line befor the filter in case the fuel was draining back that way over night, but alas it made no difference.

Any suggestions ?

Thanks

Liam

hello mate

try start with fuel filter change and both SCVs checking up by megger.

Chers/Igor

[rav4Liam]

Hi all, I'm very happy I found this forum since I can't find a good one in Holland, where I live.

I really really hope someone can help me!

My parents own a Toyota RAV4 D4-D 2.0 from 2003. It has 183.000 km on the clock.

They are on holiday with a caravan in Germany and Austria. When they left a week ago an stil in Holland the car stopped on them on the motorway, they had to be towed to the nearest Toyota dealer.

There the diagnose was that the underpressure regulator of the turbo (I hope I translated that one correct) with partnumber 25819-27040 and a vacuum hose of the valve regulator (don't have the partnumber) was replaced.

The next day they were on their way!

But, 400 km later it happened again! The German ADAC arrived on the scene. They were able to drive again after they restarted the car and the ADAC guy followed them as a precaution.

In the German garage they diagnosed it as a defective pumpkit supply (partnumber 04221-27011). The german guy told them that the part that was replaced in Holland never breaks down. He was 100% conviced that the problem was now solved.

So they went on their way and drove a few 100 km without a problem. But yesterday, in Austria it happened again!! They called the ADAC again and they couldn't find anything. If you stop the car and restart, it runs without a problem. The only thing this guy could find in the computer was an error code P1250.

The last time it happened they were going up a hill, so the car must deliver a lot of power. Maybe this is a good hint on what's the problem?

The Dutch ANWB won't help them because in their eyes the car is not broken since it runs (!!). They are (understandable) very afraid to drive home with the caravan, it happens unexpectedly and it you're going up there are likely to be people close behind the caravan.

I really hope someone can shed some light on this problem! THanks for any answer!

regards,

Vincent

Hi all,

I'm new to the Forum, hope I'm doing this right !

I just bought (two weeks ago) a Rav4 2L D4D 2005 model and had the same problem last week, also in the morning it starts and cuts out and sometimes starts on the second attempt, sometimes splutters and will not rev on the second attempt, then the light comes on. It drives away ok then and the light goes off after two or three stop starts.

On several occasions, before I cold start, I pumped the fuel filter plunger to build up the pressure and the engine starts on the first attempt, so I fittd a non return valve to the fuel line befor the filter in case the fuel was draining back that way over night, but alas it made no difference.

Any suggestions ?

Thanks

Liam

hello mate

try start with fuel filter change and both SCVs checking up by megger.

Chers/Igor

Thanks Igor,

I read the codes from it this morning, there are 4 listed

P0093

P0100

P0110

P1251

I've already changed the fuel filter and the pipe on top of the HP Pumpwas weeping so I tightened that (only last night) so I'll clear the codes and see what happens.

When you say test the csv's with a megger, will a standard digital not be sufficient. I am a mechanic but am out of it for about 15 years so a bit rusty on the new technology.

Thanks for the advise

Liam

[igormus]

Hi all, I'm very happy I found this forum since I can't find a good one in Holland, where I live.

I really really hope someone can help me!

My parents own a Toyota RAV4 D4-D 2.0 from 2003. It has 183.000 km on the clock.

They are on holiday with a caravan in Germany and Austria. When they left a week ago an stil in Holland the car stopped on them on the motorway, they had to be towed to the nearest Toyota dealer.

There the diagnose was that the underpressure regulator of the turbo (I hope I translated that one correct) with partnumber 25819-27040 and a vacuum hose of the valve regulator (don't have the partnumber) was replaced.

The next day they were on their way!

But, 400 km later it happened again! The German ADAC arrived on the scene. They were able to drive again after they restarted the car and the ADAC guy followed them as a precaution.

In the German garage they diagnosed it as a defective pumpkit supply (partnumber 04221-27011). The german guy told them that the part that was replaced in Holland never breaks down. He was 100% conviced that the problem was now solved.

So they went on their way and drove a few 100 km without a problem. But yesterday, in Austria it happened again!! They called the ADAC again and they couldn't find anything. If you stop the car and restart, it runs without a problem. The only thing this guy could find in the computer was an error code P1250.

The last time it happened they were going up a hill, so the car must deliver a lot of power. Maybe this is a good hint on what's the problem?

The Dutch ANWB won't help them because in their eyes the car is not broken since it runs (!!). They are (understandable) very afraid to drive home with the caravan, it happens unexpectedly and it you're going up there are likely to be people close behind the caravan.

I really hope someone can shed some light on this problem! THanks for any answer!

regards,

Vincent

Hi all,

I'm new to the Forum, hope I'm doing this right !

I just bought (two weeks ago) a Rav4 2L D4D 2005 model and had the same problem last week, also in the morning it starts and cuts out and sometimes starts on the second attempt, sometimes splutters and will not rev on the second attempt, then the light comes on. It drives away ok then and the light goes off after two or three stop starts.

On several occasions, before I cold start, I pumped the fuel filter plunger to build up the pressure and the engine starts on the first attempt, so I fittd a non return valve to the fuel line befor the filter in case the fuel was draining back that way over night, but alas it made no difference.

Any suggestions ?

Thanks

Liam

hello mate

try start with fuel filter change and both SCVs checking up by megger.

Chers/Igor

Thanks Igor,

I read the codes from it this morning, there are 4 listed

P0093

P0100

P0110

P1251

I've already changed the fuel filter and the pipe on top of the HP Pumpwas weeping so I tightened that (only last night) so I'll clear the codes and see what happens.

When you say test the csv's with a megger, will a standard digital not be sufficient. I am a mechanic but am out of it for about 15 years so a bit rusty on the new technology.

Thanks for the advise

Liam

Liam -- hi

Check with the pinned tips on the top ---- arranged by our Ancorman ---- this info is very useful.

There you ll find a tip re SCVs

Cheers/Igor