Nightmare!

[SidBurns]

Firstly, hello from me, first post!

Secondly, bought a Rav just under 3 weeks ago, wheel bearing went which was covered under my 3 month warranty but now the following have all went too:-

* Advise Exhaust (including Gaskets) Cracked & Leaking

* Front Brake Pads & Discs (worn & corroded)

* Rear Brake Pads & Discs (worn & corroded)

* Advise Rear Caliper Pins Corrorded To Excess (may also require further parts)

* Advise Clutch & Dual Mass Flywheel (noisey & rattling)

* Rear Transfer Seal Leaking

Been quoted over £3,500 from Toyota (via their 'free' Visual Safety Report). Will all of this be covered by the warranty? If not, what rights do I have!?!

Thanks,

Craig.

[Davrav]

Firstly, hello from me, first post!

Secondly, bought a Rav just under 3 weeks ago, wheel bearing went which was covered under my 3 month warranty but now the following have all went too:-

* Advise Exhaust (including Gaskets) Cracked & Leaking

* Front Brake Pads & Discs (worn & corroded)

* Rear Brake Pads & Discs (worn & corroded)

* Advise Rear Caliper Pins Corrorded To Excess (may also require further parts)

* Advise Clutch & Dual Mass Flywheel (noisey & rattling)

* Rear Transfer Seal Leaking

Been quoted over £3,500 from Toyota (via their 'free' Visual Safety Report). Will all of this be covered by the warranty? If not, what rights do I have!?!

Thanks,

Craig.

Welcome to the club Craig. Sorry to hear of your troubles.

If you have a three month warranty you need to take the vehicle straight back to the seller and show them the report. Give them the opportunity to correct all the faults [which must have been present when you bought it]. Be polite but firm and put your concerns in writing. If they stonewall you, get on to trading standards immediately.

Good luck

[anchorman]

Go back to the place you bought it. By law you have to give them chance to fix it. If they fail to put it right you can ask them to refund your money or take them to court. I doubt the warranty will do much good as that just covers failed components and not worn ones.

[SidBurns]

Go back to the place you bought it. By law you have to give them chance to fix it. If they fail to put it right you can ask them to refund your money or take them to court. I doubt the warranty will do much good as that just covers failed components and not worn ones.

Cheers guys. Will be 3 weeks this coming Tuesday so they, by law, have to fix the car or I'm entitled to a full refund yeah?

Cheers again

[Davrav]

Go back to the place you bought it. By law you have to give them chance to fix it. If they fail to put it right you can ask them to refund your money or take them to court. I doubt the warranty will do much good as that just covers failed components and not worn ones.

Cheers guys. Will be 3 weeks this coming Tuesday so they, by law, have to fix the car or I'm entitled to a full refund yeah?

Cheers again

Trading Standards should be able to advise on your rights Craig. Give the seller the opportunity to sort the issues out but do some research in the meantime just in case you need to take things further.

[anchorman]

Go back to the place you bought it. By law you have to give them chance to fix it. If they fail to put it right you can ask them to refund your money or take them to court. I doubt the warranty will do much good as that just covers failed components and not worn ones.

Cheers guys. Will be 3 weeks this coming Tuesday so they, by law, have to fix the car or I'm entitled to a full refund yeah?

Cheers again

Easy tiger.

That is the way it should go in principle but in practice you might have a hell of a battle on your hands. It depends how amenable and ethical your supplier is. You have to start somewhere and that is to approach them. After that follow Daves advice with TS.

You are asking for repairs that go a long way to the value of the car and they may not take lightly to it.

Remember the golden rules - be polite but firm. Losing your rag might be as productive as shooting yourself in the foot.

[bothwell_buyer]

confirm everything in writing no matter how nice they may be. Ask for a written response and document everything.

When it comes to it, things need to be balanced against how they described the car; what mileage its done; how much you paid will help match it against book price to signify its condition;

and

wear is expected on things like brakes - who told you ? The dealer? haha - thats where they make their profit.

Discs can wear/corrode of course.... especially if the car has been sitting in a compound. Once the car is driven a few miles the discs polish up.... and the minimum thickness is cast into the bell of the disc. Corrosion - where on the disc? The rear pins - again sounds as if the car has been sitting.

Exhaust - cracked and leaking and gaskets??? again maybe the cars been sitting or has had a wee bump to its exhaust pipe?? Try contacting the last owner.

Rear transfer seal - not sure about this one so won't comment.

Clutch - this is well documented on this forum so try doing a search and read what has been said to allow you to compare.

Funnily enough, I don't trust Toyota dealers ever since I caught them charging me for replacing parts that they didn't touch. Dealers of all sorts are renowned at trying to make a buck out of unknowlegeable folk.... especially in the economic times we have now.

I use a garage that I fully trust and who have staff and an owner who knows exactly what they are talking about. They are Jap car specialists and take pride in their work and their reputation. Where did I find them? Well I looked on the websites of local car cruise clubs.

So I suppose my message is just take it calmly and not over-react. Go back to the seller with a written list of your concerns and the dealers opinions. And just be firm as said above.

Trading standards? I wish they would look at dealers!!

Keep in touch.

[SidBurns]

confirm everything in writing no matter how nice they may be. Ask for a written response and document everything.

When it comes to it, things need to be balanced against how they described the car; what mileage its done; how much you paid will help match it against book price to signify its condition;

and

wear is expected on things like brakes - who told you ? The dealer? haha - thats where they make their profit.

Discs can wear/corrode of course.... especially if the car has been sitting in a compound. Once the car is driven a few miles the discs polish up.... and the minimum thickness is cast into the bell of the disc. Corrosion - where on the disc? The rear pins - again sounds as if the car has been sitting.

Exhaust - cracked and leaking and gaskets??? again maybe the cars been sitting or has had a wee bump to its exhaust pipe?? Try contacting the last owner.

Rear transfer seal - not sure about this one so won't comment.

Clutch - this is well documented on this forum so try doing a search and read what has been said to allow you to compare.

Funnily enough, I don't trust Toyota dealers ever since I caught them charging me for replacing parts that they didn't touch. Dealers of all sorts are renowned at trying to make a buck out of unknowlegeable folk.... especially in the economic times we have now.

I use a garage that I fully trust and who have staff and an owner who knows exactly what they are talking about. They are Jap car specialists and take pride in their work and their reputation. Where did I find them? Well I looked on the websites of local car cruise clubs.

So I suppose my message is just take it calmly and not over-react. Go back to the seller with a written list of your concerns and the dealers opinions. And just be firm as said above.

Trading standards? I wish they would look at dealers!!

Keep in touch.

Firstly, thanks for all of your replies.

Went through last night playing the 'nice guy' card which seemed to do the trick!

Handed them the Vehicle Report and they were a bit astounded at the price, which TBH I was too. Anyway, they have managed to get a price on brake pads/discs, for the four it's gonna cost them around £170 which is less then half price on Toyota. Very happy that the pads and discs are getting done, two down four to go!

The DMF is gonna be the the big one. Speaking to them last night, they said some warranty companies will only fix problems IF the car has broken down and will not drive. Seems a bit strange no!?!

Craig

PS - Yes it was the Dealer who said that they 'wear & tear', obviously they do but not in !Removed! three weeks!

[bothwell_buyer]

the cost of replacing the discs and pads is ok, and if the garage is going to do that then great.

Try to get them to do the rear transfer seal - anchorman may have a better idea of whats involved here and possible cost.

Exhaust - should be a fairly cheap fix I'd guess but ask them to sort it.

The clutch is the difficult one as its a matter of argument as to whether or how long it will last.

[bothwell_buyer]

I meant to add well done on getting a result - to start. To survive, many garages need to keep their reputation up...especially independents.

The tales I could tell about our local Toyota dealer and the previous one I'm sure are not reflected in all Toyota dealers. However I know from talking to various folk that dealers do take advantage. Our charity paid almost £2000 for repairs to one of our trucks; the Renault dealer had the truck for 10 days, and when I went to collect, the same non-starting fault existed despite new parts (diesel cut-off valve) being replaced. They told me I needed a new fuel pump at a few thousand quid... we found they had omitted to replace a spring!!! SCARY! Needless to say I haven't gone back and I've told dozens of other people about them too.

[SidBurns]

I meant to add well done on getting a result - to start. To survive, many garages need to keep their reputation up...especially independents.

The tales I could tell about our local Toyota dealer and the previous one I'm sure are not reflected in all Toyota dealers. However I know from talking to various folk that dealers do take advantage. Our charity paid almost £2000 for repairs to one of our trucks; the Renault dealer had the truck for 10 days, and when I went to collect, the same non-starting fault existed despite new parts (diesel cut-off valve) being replaced. They told me I needed a new fuel pump at a few thousand quid... we found they had omitted to replace a spring!!! SCARY! Needless to say I haven't gone back and I've told dozens of other people about them too.

Well as mentioned earlier they have agreed to sort out the brake pads and discs. They reckon the rattling was a wheel bearing, mmm. Here's the mail I received:-

I got the one from the ash tray but its had new lockers fitted to it and the key for them is not there but I will get him to have another look thanks, Your own car is on the ramp as you seen I drove your car home last night and the noise was very loud, put me in mind of the wheel bearing being away but as the car was checked by Toyota I thought that could not be possible but as soon as you stop the car the noise stops you only get the noise when the wheel is turning you don't get the noise when the car is running but not moving so to me just driving it, it points to the wheel bearing so when I got the car back to the work I immediately put the car on the ramp to find that the wheel bearing we had fitted was faulty we have fitted a new wheel bearing on the same side and the noise is now gone after test driving the car at various speeds both turning left and right turns, so we are also replacing the pads and discs all round on the car for you the pads and discs in my opinion are not needing replaced at the moment but for all the trouble you have had and the time you have taken by travelling up and down we decided that for the cost of the parts that it would be the best thing to do for you as a customer will test drive the car again after the pads and discs have been fitted and will then let you know when the car will be available for you.

What you guys think? Just went back to him and said, thanks very much but what about the Rear Caliper, Rear Leak, DMF and Exhaust?

Craig

[Parts-King]

The brakes are the least of your problems, dont be fobbed off with the cheap repairs in the hope you go away. The exhaust and DMF issues need clarification because once your 3 month warranty is up you could be in for an expensive bill. Get an independant report off one of the motoring organisations, you can then argue they are independant and have no axe to grind. If it did go to a court situation, that is what would be required. Best done sooner rather than later too!

Kingo

[SidBurns]

The brakes are the least of your problems, dont be fobbed off with the cheap repairs in the hope you go away. The exhaust and DMF issues need clarification because once your 3 month warranty is up you could be in for an expensive bill. Get an independant report off one of the motoring organisations, you can then argue they are independant and have no axe to grind. If it did go to a court situation, that is what would be required. Best done sooner rather than later too!

Kingo

Still hoping they'll offer to fix it Kingo. Any chance that Toyota could be 'at-it' a bit though?

If I get everything done apart from the DMF I'd be pretty happy but then would go down your route of RAC or AA to check it over. Problem is, with their (and most warranties), the car actually needs to break down in order for it to be fixed. On this premise, anyone know how to break a DMF!?!

[SidBurns]

The brakes are the least of your problems, dont be fobbed off with the cheap repairs in the hope you go away. The exhaust and DMF issues need clarification because once your 3 month warranty is up you could be in for an expensive bill. Get an independant report off one of the motoring organisations, you can then argue they are independant and have no axe to grind. If it did go to a court situation, that is what would be required. Best done sooner rather than later too!

Kingo

Still hoping they'll offer to fix it Kingo. Any chance that Toyota could be 'at-it' a bit though?

If I get everything done apart from the DMF I'd be pretty happy but then would go down your route of RAC or AA to check it over. Problem is, with their (and most warranties), the car actually needs to break down in order for it to be fixed. On this premise, anyone know how to break a DMF!?!

An update:-

Hi sorry the calliper pins are on order and will be here tomorrow they are not needing replaced but again they are only £1.23 each I will show you all the replaced parts the transfer seal is also due in tomorrow that has a very slight leak but I suppose any leak is a leak so that Is also being replaced, the exhaust has a seal which just needs re sealed its not blowing but will be re sealed the last thing is the flywheel we cannot find any problem with this part the guys from Toyota you said could tell by the noise it made there is no noise coming from this so it will require more time and again a third opinion from another gearbox expert as nothing is obvious, but I will be in touch later today when most of the work has been finished.

What you guys think?

Craig

[Parts-King]

One of the issues we have as a dealer is being over zealous with the VSR (Vehicle safety Report) but often for good reason

From a legal point of view, we are the the "experts" and as we might not see your car for another 12 months (next service) then we try and advise of any issues that we foresee in that time period. There are a lot of people out there that never get there cars looked at from one year to the next, so make a judgement on what might be needed in the future. If anything ever went to court (You can imagine the scenario-well officer I only had the car in the garage last week, surely they would have told me the wheel was falling off!!! ) then we have some evidence of what was checked and advised at the time. it is a VISUAL report where terms like "pads 50% worn" are used whereby if measured they might only be 30% worn. The technicians would be over cautious but should never be "at it"

The warranty company would never pay out for a noisy DMF and i would doubt they would pay if it failed, you need to check if a DMF is covered in the small print, I bet you it isnt!

Kingo

[bothwell_buyer]

overall, it looks as if the garage is sorting things not too bad.

For information, the exhaust we have fitted to our large generator (65kva) and a 6 cylinder diesel lump, is made up of bits of old exhausts recovered from cars and welded or bolted together. I used silicon to seal the joints and it works....I was advised that by my garage but never believed them til I tried it!!

If you like you can pay for an AA or RAC or whoever inspection as another independent opinion - dunno whether they would cover the dmf if it fails 3 months later though.

The obvious thing is to go a test drive with the service manager after they have fixed the faults/done the repairs. If the front wheel bearing was replaced, I wonder if the hub needs to be renewed if they are putting another bearing in?? Odd.

[anchorman]

I warned you about the limitations of the warranty in post 3. I'm not sure how old this car is but the Toyota report will be, as you would expect, putting it back to an as new condition and while they are not all the same, we have had dealers make a bit of a play on brakes in the past. Its a bit of a soft target because technically if they show any "unusual" wear the spec says you should replace them so they get technical approval for something that an owner might otherwise put up with. You garage is making all the right noises to me. You need to make sure he doesn't cobble the exhaust so try and check it afterwards. That DMF might be an awkward one. They can make a horrible and irritating noise for months before they fail and when they do it can be without warning and only then might you get anything from the warranty company. Most of them make a lot of money and selling a 3 month warranty is statistically a gold mine. I can see why Toyota recommend a new exhaust because if it is an old one (please add more detail to your profile, "Rav-4" doesn't tell us a lot) you can have trouble taking them apart so they will always err towards caution.

So what to do? As the garage spends more money on your car you are reducing the chance of getting your money back. Even the law will say that they made every effort but as you can see they are focusing on the easily/cheaply doable. If they do everything except the DMF they leave you with a serviceable motor until that DMF throws it's hand in and then you are looking at £1800. I personally would wait until they have had a second opinion and done all the other stuff then you have until the warranty runs out to get some more opinions that say it is on the way out and then try to negotiate at least part of the cost (remember you can only expect them to be reasonable and from what I have read so far, they appear to be trying to make it right for you). Otherwise, take out your own warranty (Kingo swears by the proper Toyota ones although they are on the steep side they are good vfm) when the other expires and then you have got something for if and when it does fail.

[bothwell_buyer]

I warned you about the limitations of the warranty in post 3. I'm not sure how old this car is but the Toyota report will be, as you would expect, putting it back to an as new condition and while they are not all the same, we have had dealers make a bit of a play on brakes in the past. Its a bit of a soft target because technically if they show any "unusual" wear the spec says you should replace them so they get technical approval for something that an owner might otherwise put up with. You garage is making all the right noises to me. You need to make sure he doesn't cobble the exhaust so try and check it afterwards. That DMF might be an awkward one. They can make a horrible and irritating noise for months before they fail and when they do it can be without warning and only then might you get anything from the warranty company. Most of them make a lot of money and selling a 3 month warranty is statistically a gold mine. I can see why Toyota recommend a new exhaust because if it is an old one (please add more detail to your profile, "Rav-4" doesn't tell us a lot) you can have trouble taking them apart so they will always err towards caution.

So what to do? As the garage spends more money on your car you are reducing the chance of getting your money back. Even the law will say that they made every effort but as you can see they are focusing on the easily/cheaply doable. If they do everything except the DMF they leave you with a serviceable motor until that DMF throws it's hand in and then you are looking at £1800. I personally would wait until they have had a second opinion and done all the other stuff then you have until the warranty runs out to get some more opinions that say it is on the way out and then try to negotiate at least part of the cost (remember you can only expect them to be reasonable and from what I have read so far, they appear to be trying to make it right for you). Otherwise, take out your own warranty (Kingo swears by the proper Toyota ones although they are on the steep side they are good vfm) when the other expires and then you have got something for if and when it does fail.

in trying to read ancs post, I think I agree with what he says. Cobbling exhausts stretches my knowledge, as does a garage making noises, but heh - I'm mentally ill so what do I know Need to rush now as John Lennon is calling me.......

[SidBurns]

I warned you about the limitations of the warranty in post 3. I'm not sure how old this car is but the Toyota report will be, as you would expect, putting it back to an as new condition and while they are not all the same, we have had dealers make a bit of a play on brakes in the past. Its a bit of a soft target because technically if they show any "unusual" wear the spec says you should replace them so they get technical approval for something that an owner might otherwise put up with. You garage is making all the right noises to me. You need to make sure he doesn't cobble the exhaust so try and check it afterwards. That DMF might be an awkward one. They can make a horrible and irritating noise for months before they fail and when they do it can be without warning and only then might you get anything from the warranty company. Most of them make a lot of money and selling a 3 month warranty is statistically a gold mine. I can see why Toyota recommend a new exhaust because if it is an old one (please add more detail to your profile, "Rav-4" doesn't tell us a lot) you can have trouble taking them apart so they will always err towards caution.

So what to do? As the garage spends more money on your car you are reducing the chance of getting your money back. Even the law will say that they made every effort but as you can see they are focusing on the easily/cheaply doable. If they do everything except the DMF they leave you with a serviceable motor until that DMF throws it's hand in and then you are looking at £1800. I personally would wait until they have had a second opinion and done all the other stuff then you have until the warranty runs out to get some more opinions that say it is on the way out and then try to negotiate at least part of the cost (remember you can only expect them to be reasonable and from what I have read so far, they appear to be trying to make it right for you). Otherwise, take out your own warranty (Kingo swears by the proper Toyota ones although they are on the steep side they are good vfm) when the other expires and then you have got something for if and when it does fail.

in trying to read ancs post, I think I agree with what he says. Cobbling exhausts stretches my knowledge, as does a garage making noises, but heh - I'm mentally ill so what do I know Need to rush now as John Lennon is calling me.......

Am thinking a Toyota Warranty if I'm being honest. Would this cover the DMF if it failed or at least put some money towards it? Could the mechanic/technician from Toyota have mistaken the 'rattle' for the DMF as opposed to the faulty wheel bearing? It was only a 'visual' check I had done afterall...

The car is a 2002 GX, a late August 2002 model with no recalls due (according to Toyota). Brakes always seemed a bit 'funny' to me anyway so getting them done 'as new' is great! I think their making all the right noises too, cobbling the exhaust though!?! Means nothing to me anchorman

We really love the car, as I said a 2002 GX with 87k on the clock. Was serviced by Western Toyota, Edinburgh at 11, 22 and 33k miles then an independent at 46, 56, 68, 76 and 83k miles so it has been well looked after, going by these stats anyway!

Thanks once again guys for all your thoughts/comments. Suppose the main question I now have is above, would the Toyota Warranty cover a DMF? Also, how much are Toyota Warranties roughly?

Cheers again,

Craig.

PS - Found this on the DMF sticky:-

”The issue regarding Dual Mass Flywheels relates to RAV4 CLA20 and CLA21 models (early diesel vehicles) and was found to be that under hard use (towing etc) the flywheel securing bolts were unable to provide sufficient tightness. This was remedied by an improved flywheel and revised fastening and tightening processes, which were introduced into RAV4 vehicle production from August 2002. The improvements were made from VIN numbers,

JT EYG20V400009863

JT EHG20V600026183

JT EHG20V606013132

With our commitment to customer satisfaction the warranty was extended for a period outside of the normal 3 year or 60,000 mile warranty. Because a production line fix was introduced from August 2002 claims would only be accepted on vehicles manufactured prior to this date. This extended period ran for 5 years or 100,000 miles (whichever comes first) and as such would therefore have expired in August 2007. I have to confirm that no extra time or mileage will be added to this warranty extension and all Toyota Centres are aware of the above information.

My recommendation would be that owners who experience a failure outside of this period should contact their Toyota Centre and if they feel it appropriate, contact would be made to our Customer Relations Department for their consideration.”

Now our VIN number is - JT EHG20V1000XXXXX. I assume that we have then missed this 'revised' part? If so would it have been 'fixed' in the first, second or third service? If so then great, if not are Toyota liable at all? The plot thickens!

[anchorman]

"Cobbling the exhaust" means wrapping a bandage around it or packing something up with exhaust paste instead of renewing the affected part. Sometimes when you try to get an exhaust apart it breaks the next and the next until before you know it you have renewed the whole lot. The Toyota garage may have hedged their bet and quoted you for a new complete system but then if you accept the price it can make the mechanic lazy and he just chops the lot off with a zip saw when he might have salvaged a perfectly good section with some care. In your case you need to make sure that the garage doesn't minimise the risk and patch it up rather than risk taking it apart. It is easy to do so and make it last out the warranty but that is not the proper solution you want hence the warning.

Kingo is the best person to ask about the warranty and may even be able to fix it up for you.

You can forget about the warranty described in the pinned section. They only offered it for 5 years from that date which has well gone now. Occasionally they do honour warranty on DMFs but they do it on an individual merit basis. You can ask a Toyota dealer to approach TGB on your behalf but the tend to look at whether you are a returning customer and if it has a full dealer service history. They sometimes shock us and cough up the full parts of parts and labour but other times make a gesture that makes the price competitive against an independant garage. Of course in that case you get genuine parts.

Some owners prefer to fit a single mass flywheel as they do not want to risk a repeat failure in another 5 years which I'm afraid to say is not untypical. You have some decisions to make but you could do worse than invest in a phone call or pm Kingo to see what the policy is for a failure while under an extended TGB warranty

[Parts-King]

The problem you have is that even if you put an extended warranty on it, the vehicle has a pre-existing condition (sounds like health insurance I know) With the age/mileage and how long you have had it taken into consideration, you might not be able to make a claim, the case would be taken on it's merits. Extended warranties are superb, we dont normally get any problems, but most people put an extended warranty on a car when they have owned it for 3 years or so, in your case, you have only just bought it, so it might not be covered. In cases like this where you have just bought it and make a claim, they send out an independant assessor to view it and make an opinion, he could class it as a genuine failure or wear and tear, who knows. I know it's not what you want to hear but have to be honest with you

Kingo

[SidBurns]

"Cobbling the exhaust" means wrapping a bandage around it or packing something up with exhaust paste instead of renewing the affected part. Sometimes when you try to get an exhaust apart it breaks the next and the next until before you know it you have renewed the whole lot. The Toyota garage may have hedged their bet and quoted you for a new complete system but then if you accept the price it can make the mechanic lazy and he just chops the lot off with a zip saw when he might have salvaged a perfectly good section with some care. In your case you need to make sure that the garage doesn't minimise the risk and patch it up rather than risk taking it apart. It is easy to do so and make it last out the warranty but that is not the proper solution you want hence the warning.

Kingo is the best person to ask about the warranty and may even be able to fix it up for you.

You can forget about the warranty described in the pinned section. They only offered it for 5 years from that date which has well gone now. Occasionally they do honour warranty on DMFs but they do it on an individual merit basis. You can ask a Toyota dealer to approach TGB on your behalf but the tend to look at whether you are a returning customer and if it has a full dealer service history. They sometimes shock us and cough up the full parts of parts and labour but other times make a gesture that makes the price competitive against an independant garage. Of course in that case you get genuine parts.

Some owners prefer to fit a single mass flywheel as they do not want to risk a repeat failure in another 5 years which I'm afraid to say is not untypical. You have some decisions to make but you could do worse than invest in a phone call or pm Kingo to see what the policy is for a failure while under an extended TGB warranty

...but surely if the car was serviced in 2002, 2003 and 2004 at a Toyota Dealer, the Flywheel would've already been looked at/sorted?

Kingo - What do you think I should do as regards a warranty? A 2002 Rav4...

Cheers again guys,

Craig.

[Parts-King]

Craig, the DMF might have already been replaced at some stage, you just dont know, it wouldnt have been automatically looked at or sorted, and in any case that was over 6 years ago! It wasnt a recall so if it showed no signs of failing then it wouldnt be touched

If you PM me the following details, I can get a price on extended warranty for you, dont post up in the forum, PM me

Current exact miles, price paid, Registration number and chassis number, also do you want unlimited mileage or low user (10K per year max)

Kingo

[local hero]

Craig, the DMF might have already been replaced at some stage, you just dont know, it wouldnt have been automatically looked at or sorted, and in any case that was over 6 years ago! It wasnt a recall so if it showed no signs of failing then it wouldnt be touched

If you PM me the following details, I can get a price on extended warranty for you, dont post up in the forum, PM me

Current exact miles, price paid, Registration number and chassis number, also do you want unlimited mileage or low user (10K per year max)

Kingo

Wouldn't dream of interfering, but the TOYOTA ext warranty is only available on vehicles up to 7yrs old unless you know different Stew

[bothwell_buyer]

Craig, the DMF might have already been replaced at some stage, you just dont know, it wouldnt have been automatically looked at or sorted, and in any case that was over 6 years ago! It wasnt a recall so if it showed no signs of failing then it wouldnt be touched

If you PM me the following details, I can get a price on extended warranty for you, dont post up in the forum, PM me

Current exact miles, price paid, Registration number and chassis number, also do you want unlimited mileage or low user (10K per year max)

Kingo

Wouldn't dream of interfering, but the TOYOTA ext warranty is only available on vehicles up to 7yrs old unless you know different Stew

Crumbs - thats me out then? :lol: