60 Plate Aygo Black Leaking - With Pictures!

[Phoenix999]

I am sorry but your statement is not correct the number of leaks on 107 and C1 forums is minimal.

I find it interesting that the C1 and the 107 suffer with leaks less than the Aygo.... strange considering that they are basically the same car, so I woulder why this is

[AYGOgummy]

I am sorry but your statement is not correct the number of leaks on 107 and C1 forums is minimal.

I find it interesting that the C1 and the 107 suffer with leaks less than the Aygo.... strange considering that they are basically the same car, so I woulder why this is

I think it's probably down to the design of the bodywork - the Aygo is the most unique out of the three. The Peugeot and Citroen share identical rear bumpers, whereas the Aygo's is a totally different shape. I think that's what it probably is. A friend of ours has a 107 and it's never leaked, nor has my Aygo. Fingers crossed, I think it's such a shame that so many of them do leak! My heart always sinks when I read of another upset owner with a wet car!

[Valvematic]

I am sorry but your statement is not correct the number of leaks on 107 and C1 forums is minimal.

I find it interesting that the C1 and the 107 suffer with leaks less than the Aygo.... strange considering that they are basically the same car, so I woulder why this is http://www.toyotaownersclub.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/#EMO_DIR#/huh.gif

The lights on the 107 and c1 have more fixings to hold them in compared to the aygo which maintains a better seal.

[Raistlin]

Wow an Oct 2010 topic, now that is keen,,,

[FROSTYBALLS]

From the C1 owners club forum the C1/107 seems to suffer in the same way as the Aygo with water leaks from the rear lights

[Mike169]

CHN, first of all i am sorry to read you are having so much trouble with your Aygo and obviously may other people have as well. I thought Toyota's were a well made vehicle well on this model it appears they have not got it right regardless of where it is made it still has their name on it and i certainly will never be buying one of these regardless of what the dealer says.

Regards Mike169

[Raistlin]

It's only badged not built by Toyota...

[Mike169]

I did put in my comments regardless of where it was made, the fact they put their Badge on it then it should be made to their own exacting standards. If it is made on a Peugeot/Citroen production line a customer does not go to the French dealer to get is car serviced/repaired. The mere fact Toyota franchise it out is down to them and the quality of their vehicles rests in their lap and not that of the production line that made it. When someone buys a Aygo the money goes into a Toyota bank account so 3rd partying the issue passing the blame to someone else does not apply in this situation.

Regards Mike169

[Raistlin]

In an ideal world I agree, but I bet the lions share of the cash goes to PSA, so it seems fair that they should shoulder a portion of the blame.

Badging is a quick fix to cover the market without any expensive capitol layout, it happens in everything from cars to baked beans.

If the BMW engines that Toyota will be using fail who do you think will get the blame, people will say the XXX BMW engines are rubbish ( or something less forum friendly ).

It's a shame I have had many years with no problems until just a few weeks ago when a rubber seal failed in the torrential storms but hell nothing last for ever....

[Mike169]

I can see where you are coming from Raistlin but this man's problems are from are car that was poorly assembled from new and therefore it is a design fault and not fair wear and tear but body panels not fitting correctly looking at his photos which show the leak is not from the rear light seal but the joins in the metal between the light and the number plate area.

Copied from this persons page.....(I took a bit more of the interior off to see if I could spot where the water could be getting in. Gave it a good going over with the hose, and water seems to be getting in where I've marked with an arrow, when the hose was directed at the left side rear light cluster ... so guess that's where the leak is (if not elsewhere as well).

If Toyota choose to use BWW engines then that is their choice, so are you saying if the head gasket fails at say 20,000 mile the Toyota car should be returned to a BMW dealer or a Toyota one?

Your answer will be appreciated.

Regards Mike169

[Raistlin]

No I am saying.. caveat emptor

Bearing in mind this is a four year old post I would have suggested that he took legal recourse on a four week old car straight away.

Under the Sale of Goods Act 1979 goods must be as described, of satisfactory quality and fit for purpose.

Fit for purpose means both their everyday purpose, and also any specific purpose that you agreed with the seller.

You have the right to get faulty goods replaced or repaired if it's too late to reject them. You can ask the retailer to do either, but they can normally choose to do whatever would be cheapest.

Under the Sale of Goods Act, the retailer must either repair or replace faulty goods 'within a reasonable time but without causing significant inconvenience'.

If the seller doesn't do this, you're entitled to claim either:

• a reduction on the purchase price, or
• your money back, minus an amount for the usage you've had of the goods (called recision)

If the retailer refuses to repair the goods, and they won't replace them either, you may have the right to arrange for someone else to repair your item, and then claim compensation from the retailer for the cost of doing this.

You have six years to take a claim to court for faulty goods in England, Wales and Northern Ireland; in Scotland you have five years.

[Mike169]

On this occasion Raistlin i think we can only agree to disagree.

On the rear of my Rav4 is has a sticker 5 year warranty, so if this is a 4 year old post is still within it's 1 year old build quality.

Obviously the leak has been there for years and possibly the gentleman should of acted sooner unless the leak has only just appeared due to silicone failure/excessive gaps in body panels, which is still within the 5 year warranty.

The fact Toyota sub contract their work out or buy in engines then they should honour their guarantee regards of who built it or supplied the parts.

Myself personally i would push until i got to the top until i got the work repaired FOC under the manufacturers warranty otherwise the warranty is not valid.

Regards and i wish you a good day, Mike169

[FROSTYBALLS]

The Aygo/107/C1 are the products of a formal Joint Venture between Toyota and PSA, called TPCA - put together to share development costs, etc.

Petrol engines are Toyota, diesel engines are PSA. All of these cars are built in Czechoslovakia by the Joint Venture's own factory.

The new Aygo/108/C1 will again be products of the Joint Venture.

As regards the OP's warranty - if the car was first registered before June 2010, it would have had a 3 year/60,000 mile new car warranty. If the car was first registered in the UK on or after 1st June 2010, it would have had a 5 year/100,000 mile warranty.

Toyota also offered a 5 year warranty extension for water leaks on the Aygo.

[Raistlin]

On this occasion Raistlin i think we can only agree to disagree.

Myself personally i would push until i got to the top until i got the work repaired FOC under the manufacturers warranty otherwise the warranty is not valid.

Regards and i wish you a good day, Mike169

I think we agree, he should have pressed for a repair as outlined in his statutory rights above... :)

[Valvematic]

Appalling really.

[Valvematic]

Just been watching mine leaking from the boot seal.is there a modified seal? Any idea on cost?

[Raistlin]

Just been watching mine leaking from the boot seal.

Oh, we have a TV, but each to his own...

Give Parts King a quick PM, remember to quote your index number so he can price up the right parts.

[Valvematic]

Lol its making me mad now.

Are the boot seals known to deteriorate?

[Raistlin]

lol its making me mad now.

Are the boot seals known to deteriorate?

Is it rubber...

Unfortunately they can perish and their life can be shortened by some cleaning and polishing products.

Is it the seal that is leaking or is it finding it's way under the rubber ?

[Valvematic]

It's getting behind the rubber.

[Raistlin]

Right that's an easy fix,

Tools needed:

Silicone sealant, microban cloth, chalk stick ( any colour ), surgical spirit and some dry weather :)

Mark the corners of the seal with chalk.

Then pull the seal off gently.... use a microban cloth and clean the area of the metal edge, check for any paint damage .

Clean the grove in the seal ( use surgical spirit ) and allow to dry off.

Next run a thin bead of silicon sealer into the grove and then replace the seal taking care to match up the chalk marks to ensure a correct fit.

Wipe off any excess sealant that may have oozed out.

Allow to dry for an hour the close the tailgate.

Simples...

[Valvematic]

Cheers mate I will try that.

[Valvematic]

I have given this ago. Hopefully this will cure it.

[Raistlin]

That was quick, where did you find the sunshine. .

[Valvematic]

Haha I didn't shoved it my garage.