New Rav4 Xtr 2.2D Fuel Consumption

[Timelord]

I'm just about to change my Rav4 T180 for a new RAV XTR 2.2D - can anyone tell me what real life fuel consumption is like in the XTR?I do a mix of motorway,urban and rural driving and have always strugged to get better than 35mpg in the T180.

[RAV4Len]

Welcome Timelord :)

I have no problem getting over 40 MPG overall.

[Timelord]

Thanks for the reply that was the sort of figure I was hoping for! :)

[abraxas]

To ballance out the argument...

My '07 XTR (2.2D4D 140) lives mainly in the city and I almost never get the 40s. Mid to high 30s is the best I ever get. That is when the weather is favourable and the RAV gets to stretch its legs occasionally. Recently, I was getting _really_ poor figures; They even went down to mid-twenties. But most other folk here report better results and I seem to be in the minority.

Moral of the story being - depends how you drive it, when you drive it and where you drive it. :)

shcm has a graph in his sig. showing you the calculated and OBC-guesstimated consumption over a period of time. That should give you a good idea... Although he now has a newer D4D 2.2 150...

HTH

[shcm]

Well if it is of any use, this is the graph generated for the D4D 130 over 3 years.

Blue line is the trip reading, red line the "brim to brim" calculated one. The solid lines are "rolling averages" or filtered, the dotted ones join up the actual figures. I prefer to take more notice of the "smoothed" one.

Overall calculated average was:

The average error of the trip reading would appear to be about 3.3mpg high.

Just under 12 months for the 150 D4D is shown in my sig. For this the trip is reading about 3.2 mpg low on average or about 7% low on average.

Usually for my normal pattern of use (about 50% high speed road, 50% urban) I can do better than the manufacturers combined figure. I did with the 130 D4D. I haven't managed it with the 150 D4D. Getting about 46mpg, when the official combined is around 48mpg. I am a fairly "gentle" driver though, Or at least I try to drive smoothly and try to minimise the amount of "coming to a standstill". Quite happy with 46mpg though and above 50mpg on long motorway runs.

[Timelord]

Thanks shcm that's very helpful - I should have said it's the 150 D4D I'm getting :)

[Manxrav]

Above 50mpg on Motorway runs, that,s a very good figure.Wish I could get that from my X3!!!!!

Regards Clare

[goldtar]

I'm just about to change my Rav4 T180 for a new RAV XTR 2.2D - can anyone tell me what real life fuel consumption is like in the XTR?I do a mix of motorway,urban and rural driving and have always strugged to get better than 35mpg in the T180.

I have had a SR180 for nearly 2 years now and have never managed an average of over 34mpg. This includes 50/50 toen and long journeys. I am going to raise this at my next service.

[Roadwrangler]

I realised just before Christmas that I've been driving my T180 wrongly, in that I was always trying to get into the lowest gear as soon as possible, and was struggling to better 28.5mpg, best I got was 32.5mpg. Having to trundle along with the other slow moving cars in the snow and ice I discovered I was getting better figures on the average mpg display and better on the instant if I kept the rev's up a bit. Thinking about it logically, being in 5th or 6th at 40mph with the revs below 1500rpm means that the turbo is barely above spool speed and producing little air, so you use more fuel with only air at atmospheric pressure to maintain your speed. I've found 2000 to 2500rpm gives me the best mpg's, at these revs, the turbo is producing more compressed air, your generating engine power with a higher air to fuel ratio with is more economical, now in a 30 limit I'll stay in 3rd gear, A/B roads upto around 45/50mph stay in 4th gear, A/B roads 45-60 use 5th, and only use 6th on the motorway, its made quite a difference to me.

Regards Austin..

[mick1020]

I realised just before Christmas that I've been driving my T180 wrongly, in that I was always trying to get into the lowest gear as soon as possible, and was struggling to better 28.5mpg, best I got was 32.5mpg. Having to trundle along with the other slow moving cars in the snow and ice I discovered I was getting better figures on the average mpg display and better on the instant if I kept the rev's up a bit. Thinking about it logically, being in 5th or 6th at 40mph with the revs below 1500rpm means that the turbo is barely above spool speed and producing little air, so you use more fuel with only air at atmospheric pressure to maintain your speed. I've found 2000 to 2500rpm gives me the best mpg's, at these revs, the turbo is producing more compressed air, your generating engine power with a higher air to fuel ratio with is more economical, now in a 30 limit I'll stay in 3rd gear, A/B roads upto around 45/50mph stay in 4th gear, A/B roads 45-60 use 5th, and only use 6th on the motorway, its made quite a difference to me.

Regards Austin..

Yes i must say i do the same , in a 30 mph zone i keep it in 3 rd also . And dont use 4 th till around 40 mph, 5 th till around 55 mph and 6 th till around 65 mph and normally return around 38 - 40 mpg tank to tank .

[shcm]

Yeah, Mick & Roadwrangler, I do exactly the same.

Yes, there is a fair amount of torque at low revs, but it still feels like the engine labouring to me. No point in reving the nuts off it either.

You might also find it is actually far more flexible around town leaving it in 3rd.

I'm far from the best driver in the world, but on an advanced driving course (paid for by work), this is exactly what the instructor taught us to do. Not for fuel economy, but for flexibility. i.e. less gear changing and slightly better initial accel response if needed. The vehicle is designed to run in 3rd as much as any other gear after all.

It seems to have little impact on fuel economy.

[MarsKy]

I realised just before Christmas that I've been driving my T180 wrongly, in that I was always trying to get into the lowest gear as soon as possible, and was struggling to better 28.5mpg, best I got was 32.5mpg. Having to trundle along with the other slow moving cars in the snow and ice I discovered I was getting better figures on the average mpg display and better on the instant if I kept the rev's up a bit. Thinking about it logically, being in 5th or 6th at 40mph with the revs below 1500rpm means that the turbo is barely above spool speed and producing little air, so you use more fuel with only air at atmospheric pressure to maintain your speed. I've found 2000 to 2500rpm gives me the best mpg's, at these revs, the turbo is producing more compressed air, your generating engine power with a higher air to fuel ratio with is more economical, now in a 30 limit I'll stay in 3rd gear, A/B roads upto around 45/50mph stay in 4th gear, A/B roads 45-60 use 5th, and only use 6th on the motorway, its made quite a difference to me.

Regards Austin..

+1.

38mpg is normal. 40mpg is easy to get. With a bit of eco driving, I can get 45mpg. All brim-to-brim method.

And then when you need it, the T180 can go like the clappers but watch the mpg drop like a stone.

Swings-and-roundabouts...

[Dorlyn]

Hi Timelord

Got a new AWD XT-R last week 150bhp, currently like yourself doing a mixture of motorway, dual and rural, just over 400miles on the clock and average MPG is showing at 43.6.

Had it upto 47.3 mpg after 2 days motorway usage.

Don't think you will be too disappointed with it compared to the 180.

As previously mentioned it all comes down to your driving style though.

Dorlyn B)

[allycomet]

I'm just about to change my Rav4 T180 for a new RAV XTR 2.2D - can anyone tell me what real life fuel consumption is like in the XTR?I do a mix of motorway,urban and rural driving and have always strugged to get better than 35mpg in the T180.

Timelord, when you pick up the new RAV, immediately change the computer display to anything other than fuel consumption. Just drive and enjoy!

Whatever happens the economy will be better than the T180