1.33 Manual Or Multidrive

[marcandsebe]

Hi

I have driven the manual 6 speed and the CVT Auto of the 1.33 iQ. I really like how they both drive and cannot make a decision of which one to buy. The dealer will give me a good price on either one. I am not too worried about the price.

I am swayed toward the CVT, as I like the ease of driving it. I also like the standard and sport mode, plus I suppose you would call it hill decent. It will be used around town, but also on longer journeys. I suppose it just boils down to how reliable the CVT box is and if there is a really major fuel saving with the manual box. Plus is vehicle tax the same for both at £30?.

I am not interested in the 1.0 model and as I drive a 2.5 D4D Hilux double cab pickup with fuel consumption at about 25 mpg around town, the fuel saving on either model would be great.

Thank you for any replies you care to make.

[johnan]

Hi

I have driven the manual 6 speed and the CVT Auto of the 1.33 iQ. I really like how they both drive and cannot make a decision of which one to buy. The dealer will give me a good price on either one. I am not too worried about the price.

I am swayed toward the CVT, as I like the ease of driving it. I also like the standard and sport mode, plus I suppose you would call it hill decent. It will be used around town, but also on longer journeys. I suppose it just boils down to how reliable the CVT box is and if there is a really major fuel saving with the manual box. Plus is vehicle tax the same for both at £30?.

I am not interested in the 1.0 model and as I drive a 2.5 D4D Hilux double cab pickup with fuel consumption at about 25 mpg around town, the fuel saving on either model would be great.

Thank you for any replies you care to make.

I know you are not interested in the 1.0l, but from what I have gathered over the last couple of years in this forum there is not a big enough advantage power or performance wise to justify going for the 1.33l, over the 1.0l, and there a few drawbacks.

If you do go for a 1.33, then I personally would avoid the CVT box.It certainly seems to be unsuited to the IQ2 and appears to be the major reason for unacceptably poor fuel consumption in that car, as reported in this forum.

The IQ2, 1.0l with manual box, which I have has never averaged less than 50mpg and on longer runs keeping up with 60mph traffic on A roads has given over 64mpg average for a 120mile trip.

Maybe the CVT box suits the 1.33 engine better, but I would avoid it.Just my personal view!

[marcandsebe]

Hi

I have driven the manual 6 speed and the CVT Auto of the 1.33 iQ. I really like how they both drive and cannot make a decision of which one to buy. The dealer will give me a good price on either one. I am not too worried about the price.

I am swayed toward the CVT, as I like the ease of driving it. I also like the standard and sport mode, plus I suppose you would call it hill decent. It will be used around town, but also on longer journeys. I suppose it just boils down to how reliable the CVT box is and if there is a really major fuel saving with the manual box. Plus is vehicle tax the same for both at £30?.

I am not interested in the 1.0 model and as I drive a 2.5 D4D Hilux double cab pickup with fuel consumption at about 25 mpg around town, the fuel saving on either model would be great.

Thank you for any replies you care to make.

I know you are not interested in the 1.0l, but from what I have gathered over the last couple of years in this forum there is not a big enough advantage power or performance wise to justify going for the 1.33l, over the 1.0l, and there a few drawbacks.

If you do go for a 1.33, then I personally would avoid the CVT box.It certainly seems to be unsuited to the IQ2 and appears to be the major reason for unacceptably poor fuel consumption in that car, as reported in this forum.

The IQ2, 1.0l with manual box, which I have has never averaged less than 50mpg and on longer runs keeping up with 60mph traffic on A roads has given over 64mpg average for a 120mile trip.

Maybe the CVT box suits the 1.33 engine better, but I would avoid it.Just my personal view!

Thanks for your reply. From what I can gather though the performance is quite a bit between models to 62 MPH. 1.0 Manual 14.7 Secs, Multidrive 15.3 Secs and 1.33 manual 11.8 Secs, Multidrive 11.6 Secs. That's quite a bit of difference. I have been use to fairly quick cars over the years and although I don.t want a performance car, I would prefer something a bit nimble.

[johnan]

I must admit not to having driven an IQ3 so I am only going on hearsay from the forum, but as you say on paper the difference is marked.

Apparently people have said in reality it does not show so much on the road.

I had an Aygo before my IQ and it was very nippy and economical but is in a different class as far as quality and equipment is concerned.If I had been after a nippy car I would have kept the Aygo.

I think perhaps the problem with the IQ3 is that for the price, not so good fuel consumption, no zero road tax, no congestion charge exemption, higher insurance cost, then there are quicker cars out there with four full seats that will cost you less than an IQ3.

I am extremely happy with my IQ2 and have been for two years and would love to get another one, if only I could afford it!

I would also love to have an IQ3 but the cheaper one will do me!

Have fun making your choice, I am sure you will choose the right one for your needs and be delighted with it.

[stormuk]

I went from a 3.0l 0-60 in 7.5 to a 1 litre Iq2, and to be honest for my commute drive its as much fun and in some ways quicker, simply because people dont expect it to be nippy so it feels like it is (mind games)

The only area when you notice it is 80mph plus - and 3rd is my fav gear.

Our other car is a CVT (murano) and it kinda works in that one, my concern is with the mpg people quote for it on here, it doesnt work in the IQ which means its pushing harder than they intend (or they 1.33 cvt drivers all wear lead shoes).

Id take out the 1.0 for a test drive before deciding on the 1.3.

[Salsadicto]

The increase of power between 1.0 and 1.33 is quite useful if you often go on motorways

[tonyishuk]

The CVT is a little weird compared to the automatics that have gears that can be pre selected as there is very little "feel" between the engine and gearbox.

Given a level slope and a fair wind behind,the 1.3 will travel at 30 MPH at 1000 revs.(Not often !) As result of the gearing, I find that barreling into corners can sometimes occur in quite a high ratio, in relation to engine revs. In tradition speak, I would expect to be iin 4th or 5th not top gear !

The acceleration up to 30 MPH is quite quick, even when you dont try, Also you have to watch the speed @ 30MPH because any road with a downward slope, the speed will quickly go up to 40 or 45 as the gearbox reacts with the torque of the engine. My wife nearly got a speeding ticket in the first days of ownership because of this.

However once you are aware of these little querks, the IQ3 is very drivable. For easy driving the auto is great. For hammering around the country side, I would imagine that the 6 speed box is a winner, but petrol consumption may suffer. Handling is on a par with the old Minis (Yep I AM THAT old) a wheel at each corner and Centre of Gravity I feel is about my left buttock (RHD car), On the track, I imagine they would be a hoot to drive.

We get 40 to 45 MPG, but that is mainly town driving, and we are learning not to over accelerate the engine, which just revs and gets you nowhere at the same speed as if would if you put your foot down daintily !

That said plonk your foot to the floor and the IQ takes off like rocket and knocks up to 70 MPH very happily. It does not like high speed cruseing (75 Plus) too much, it will do it, but lets face it it may look cuddly and qute, but the front end is shaped like a brick when it comes to aerodynamics"

Had an Vauxhall Agila 1200cc before did about 35 MPG as opposed to 40 to 45 MPG with the 1300c IQ. Its still a baby so consumtion should improve a little as mileage creeps up.

Great little car, sometimes a little too "little" for carryin planks of wood etc !

Rgds

[marcandsebe]

That's a great bit of information. Are you saying that you should or would have purchased the 6 speed manual now you have driven the CVT for some time? I only drove the auto for about half an hour, but was impressed by the way it drove. Its a pity the 1.0L 3 cylinder did not have a supercharger or turbo for a bit more power. I use to have a 3 cylinder Daihatsu Charade Gtti turbo. It was just under 1000cc and did 0 to 60 in under 8 seconds. I'm not saying I would want the iQ to be that quick, but 15 seconds to about 60 is very slow for the 1 litre. The 1.33 is much better.

[tonyishuk]

When choosing the IQ, we drove both manual and auto versions of the 1 litre IQs, Decided that both were a little under powered and that a IQ3 auto would suit our style of driving better. My wife no longer feels safe with me driving the Caterham, at times I agree with her, and her driving the Caterham it not so hot nowadays either !

If I want to gears, I have a 3.5 tonne M/home to play with :D

The IQ does have some querky short comings, (http://www.toyotaownersclub.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=112665 and a browse through posts on this forum will point out varing degrees of delight and disatisfaction. (Also what S &B do on the automatic gearbox. !)

All in all, we are happy with what we have, its no Rav4/ MR2 but thinks it is !

Five year warrenty helped !

Rgds

PS Just to add that any forum tends to err on the side of bad news and as with any product, the number of faulty items in relation to the totals produced are usually small.

Toyoya have had a number of world wide recalls, and HAVE done something about the faults. Some manufacturers are not quite so open.

For Instance Fiat took a lot of kicking to admit to a badly designed gearbox, but like Toyota in smaller incidents of a "known" problem, they take the view unless the customer percives a problem, they will not advise them there could be a problem,

Thats why forums such as this are so useful for advice.

Rgds

[acetip]

When choosing the IQ, we drove both manual and auto versions of the 1 litre IQs, Decided that both were a little under powered and that a IQ3 auto would suit our style of driving better. My wife no longer feels safe with me driving the Caterham, at times I agree with her, and her driving the Caterham it not so hot nowadays either !

If I want to gears, I have a 3.5 tonne M/home to play with :D

The IQ does have some querky short comings, (http://www.toyotaownersclub.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=112665 and a browse through posts on this forum will point out varing degrees of delight and disatisfaction. (Also what S &B do on the automatic gearbox. !)

All in all, we are happy with what we have, its no Rav4/ MR2 but thinks it is !

Five year warrenty helped !

Rgds

PS Just to add that any forum tends to err on the side of bad news and as with any product, the number of faulty items in relation to the totals produced are usually small.

Toyoya have had a number of world wide recalls, and HAVE done something about the faults. Some manufacturers are not quite so open.

For Instance Fiat took a lot of kicking to admit to a badly designed gearbox, but like Toyota in smaller incidents of a "known" problem, they take the view unless the customer percives a problem, they will not advise them there could be a problem,

Thats why forums such as this are so useful for advice.

Rgds

hi when saying caterham,is that what was the old lotus 7.cos use to build them at lotus.they went like s**t of a shovel.but realy it was a motor cycle on 4 wheels.memories memories.where does the time go.

[marcandsebe]

Having driven both versions of the iQ3, I really liked the auto. You have definitely swayed me tirades the multidrive with your comments. For gears I have the Hilux pickup for that. May I point out that I thought the auto iQ3 was fun to drive.

[marcandsebe]

Sorry seated me towards the auto.

[marcandsebe]

Sorry predictive text on my rubbish Android mobile. Can't wait to go back to an iPhone. Roll on when my contract ends. What I meant to say is that you swayed me towards the iQ3 multidrive. Thank you.

[marcandsebe]

When choosing the IQ, we drove both manual and auto versions of the 1 litre IQs, Decided that both were a little under powered and that a IQ3 auto would suit our style of driving better. My wife no longer feels safe with me driving the Caterham, at times I agree with her, and her driving the Caterham it not so hot nowadays either !

If I want to gears, I have a 3.5 tonne M/home to play with :D

The IQ does have some querky short comings, (http://www.toyotaownersclub.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=112665 and a browse through posts on this forum will point out varing degrees of delight and disatisfaction. (Also what S &B do on the automatic gearbox. !)

All in all, we are happy with what we have, its no Rav4/ MR2 but thinks it is !

Five year warrenty helped !

Rgds

PS Just to add that any forum tends to err on the side of bad news and as with any product, the number of faulty items in relation to the totals produced are usually small.

Toyoya have had a number of world wide recalls, and HAVE done something about the faults. Some manufacturers are not quite so open.

For Instance Fiat took a lot of kicking to admit to a badly designed gearbox, but like Toyota in smaller incidents of a "known" problem, they take the view unless the customer percives a problem, they will not advise them there could be a problem,

Thats why forums such as this are so useful for advice.

Rgds

Did you try the manual 1.33 as well? Plus do you tow the iQ3 behind your motorhome?

[Prelude1978]

I have a 1.33 multidrive and i recomend it, it s by far the moust pleasent CVT I have ever driven, and suites the car/engine very well. Fuel consumption mostly in town is around 6.5l/100 km. I jusp hopped it had more low end torque that is evident since the CVT drives at very low revs most of the time.

Regards

[marcandsebe]

What's that in miles per gallon?

[marcandsebe]

I am really drawn towards the multidrive iQ3 now. Luckily I have some money coming to me shortly and will most likely add as many extras as possible despite the cost. I have already got a deal with the 6 speed. Just try and drive a hard bargain for it. I'm thinking of the Pearle White or Grey. What's your preferred colour of them all?

[atkiman]

heres my decuma grey one if it helps , the chrome bits are part of the style pack. i parked it next to a white one last night and personally i think its the better colour , but that's only my preferance.

[marcandsebe]

Yes I quite like that colour. A Guildford Toyota dealer is selling one with silver strips down the centre. Despite what I'm describing, it looks quite nice.

[tonyishuk]

Hi,

A couple points raised above,

The IQ is quite wide, so thinking "Small Car" can cause embarrassing mirror moments as mirrors meet !

(Maybe we should have named our IQ "Big Ears" instead of "Bug")

That said the space inside (width-wise) is great and less claustrophobic than bigger cars)

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Yep the Caterham "took over" from Lotus 7 design and construction was sold off to Caterham Cars and produced a range of cars. If you are interested and want an introduction to great club, You do not have to own a Caterham to join. Contact an Area Organiser of the Lotus 7 Club (Click on your local area on the calendar http://www.lotussevenclub.com/AreaMeetings/AreaMeetingCalendar.aspx ) Also take a look at Blatchat http://www.blatchat.com/

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The idea is to trailer the IQ behind the motorhome. Being an Auto it is not "toad-able) (In M/home speak a car that is directly connected to the m/home trailed on its own wheels)

I have a feeling that somewhere on this forum is a thread about a fix for the IQ steering lock for toad-ing a manual IQ.

That said I have the view that a car should be trailer-ed as the wear on the gear train, tyres, etc is not acceptable or sensible. Others disagree and happily tow cars behind their M/homes.

http://www.toyotaownersclub.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=108598&st=0&p=1002547&hl=toad&fromsearch=1entry1002547

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Colours AVOID Deep Amethyst, shows the dirt, looks like a flying aubergine, and we want to retain the exclusivity being the only one

Rgds

[marcandsebe]

The CVT is a little weird compared to the automatics that have gears that can be pre selected as there is very little "feel" between the engine and gearbox.

Given a level slope and a fair wind behind,the 1.3 will travel at 30 MPH at 1000 revs.(Not often !) As result of the gearing, I find that barreling into corners can sometimes occur in quite a high ratio, in relation to engine revs. In tradition speak, I would expect to be iin 4th or 5th not top gear !

The acceleration up to 30 MPH is quite quick, even when you dont try, Also you have to watch the speed @ 30MPH because any road with a downward slope, the speed will quickly go up to 40 or 45 as the gearbox reacts with the torque of the engine. My wife nearly got a speeding ticket in the first days of ownership because of this.

However once you are aware of these little querks, the IQ3 is very drivable. For easy driving the auto is great. For hammering around the country side, I would imagine that the 6 speed box is a winner, but petrol consumption may suffer. Handling is on a par with the old Minis (Yep I AM THAT old) a wheel at each corner and Centre of Gravity I feel is about my left buttock (RHD car), On the track, I imagine they would be a hoot to drive.

We get 40 to 45 MPG, but that is mainly town driving, and we are learning not to over accelerate the engine, which just revs and gets you nowhere at the same speed as if would if you put your foot down daintily !

That said plonk your foot to the floor and the IQ takes off like rocket and knocks up to 70 MPH very happily. It does not like high speed cruseing (75 Plus) too much, it will do it, but lets face it it may look cuddly and qute, but the front end is shaped like a brick when it comes to aerodynamics"

Had an Vauxhall Agila 1200cc before did about 35 MPG as opposed to 40 to 45 MPG with the 1300c IQ. Its still a baby so consumtion should improve a little as mileage creeps up.

Great little car, sometimes a little too "little" for carryin planks of wood etc !

Rgds

One more point. What's the power like when you are doing 70 mph. Ifbit does 106 mph, I would have thought the multidrive would still have something left.