Hid Kit For My Auris

[Mr Singh]

Hi Guys

I'm about to order a HID kit for my Auris, will I need a non-canbus wired kit or one for canbus wired car?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350294916437&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.co.uk%3A80%2F%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm570%26_nkw%3D350294916437%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/H11-SLIM-35w-XENON-HID-CONVERSION-KIT-ALL-COLOURS-/370429317011?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item563f4ecf93

Will be running 4300k

Thanks,

Am

[Krait]

Mr Singh,

YOu may have a more serious problem that canbus or not canbus.

Be aware that there re two requirements by law for all HID's on vehicles:

1. The vehicle must be fitted with automatic levelling device.

2. There must be headlamp washers to clean the headlights (assuming the HID's are within the headlight).

Although there could be little risk you need to be aware before you decide.

I must admit that I have seriously considered this option as my recent car had HID's and there is nothing to touch them for illumination. But I decided to have Osram Nightbreakers instead.

cheers,

Krait

[Mr Singh]

I have ran HIDs in almost every car I've ever owned and they all passed there MOTs. None of them have self levelling, infact my Audi A4 it came with them as standard yet have no self levelling and they have no washers fitted, MOT failure right?

I totally agree HIDs fitted to non projector headlamps is a big sin, infact is downright dumb and stupid. It dazzles people and is dangerous. Lights with projector type lenses are absolutley fine. Never seen these create a problem.

Anyway, I ordered a kit and I'll be MOT'ing the car in May and I'm sure I'll let you all know when it pass's

[Daveyonthemove]

I have to agree with Mr Singh.

Strictly speaking, they are not legal, but the Auris headlights are dreadful even with 'upgraded' bulbs fitted, and after wasting over £50 on different bulbs in my car, i decided to replace them with a HID kit, and the difference is truly staggering.

I have had them fitted for over a week now, and i have not been flashed by a single driver to indicate that my bulbs are dazzling them, and the cut off line is very definitive.

When the MOT is due next year i will simply remove the HID kit and install the halogen bulbs, then swap them back over again once i have the pass.

If the lights are not blinding anyone and actually allowing me see hazards from a greater distance, then its an upgrade worth doing.

As for the original question, i bought a NON canbus kit, and it is working perfectly.

[Mr Singh]

Indeed. I personally won't remove anything because for the MOT I feel better in knowing that it passed than to 'cheat' it lol

I purchased non-canbus too :)

[Daveyonthemove]

The rules are changing in November, and my MOT is due in Jan, so i won't run the risk

[davethefish]

The rules are changing in November, and my MOT is due in Jan, so i won't run the risk

Hi Davey, this subject interests me too. 1] I would like to see some pics if possible. 2] Do you know what rules are changing in Nov?

Cheers, Dave.

[Daveyonthemove]

I don't have any pics yet, but if i get a chance i will take some at some point.

I'll try to get some taken in the day, at night, and against a wall to show the cut off line, but it probably won't be untill next week sometime.

Here is the 'rumoured' changes that are due in November:

http://wrecks2riches.co.uk/2010/10/2011-changes-to-mot/

[davethefish]

Thanks for the reply Davey, interesting few points there, but I'm not sure how they can fail a car on an ECU remap. E.G all WRC rally cars have to be road legal yet run drastic remaps for performance. There are no exceptions, they need an MOT! Anyway, a remap doesn't make a car dangerous! Ohhhh that's nearly made my blood boil... :censor:

[Crasstoe]

For what it is worth, every topic on every forum regarding HIDs mentions the MOT, the testers are NOT required to check the type of bulb fitted. They CANNOT fail you for having HIDs installed, and only check that the beam is set at the right height, the correct pattern, and that the brightness is consistent between the two headlights.

The testers do not check that your car is road LEGAL but road WORTHY, the police however will not see this the same way.

[Daveyonthemove]

Its a hot topic, and there are plenty of people who have had a pass with them fitted, and plenty who haven't.

As far as i'm concerned, i KNOW they are not strictly road legal, but they are not blinding anyone and are aligned to light up the road safely. If i'm able to see further or better in poor conditions, then i deem them to be a safe modification, just like fitting better tyres.

BUT, when the MOT is due, i will replace them as i don't need the hassle of a potential fail for something that will take less than 15 mins to change.

[Crasstoe]

I'm on your side Davey. Every car I have had I have retrofitted HIDs, and on my last I fitted the autolevel (made dazzling worse!) and washers (just sprayed the whole bonnet with screen wash which was annoying) to be safe.

[Daveyonthemove]

From experience of this car and others, i have found the HID kits in NON projector lamps to be dazzling to oncoming cars, but upgraded halogen bulbs have been a marked improvement over standard bulbs.

In the projector lamps, i have found all uprated bulbs to be poor (maybe strangled by the projector?) but HID's to be far better, and non dazzling to oncoming cars.

So i would certainly consider getting them again in future cars PROVIDING they are projector lamps.

As for the headlight washers, i have found them to be pretty useless and dangerous on my Mondeo ST. They never really cleaned the lights much, and when they activated they blocked a lot of light.

They are just as effective as spraying a high pressure hose pipe onto your dirty windscreen. When the water dries, the grime is still there and only a decent wash will clean it up properly.

[Norfolk n Chance]

For what it is worth, every topic on every forum regarding HIDs mentions the MOT, the testers are NOT required to check the type of bulb fitted. They CANNOT fail you for having HIDs installed, and only check that the beam is set at the right height, the correct pattern, and that the brightness is consistent between the two headlights.

The testers do not check that your car is road LEGAL but road WORTHY, the police however will not see this the same way.

Not entirely true... under the new changes MOT testers will be checking and failing your car if you have retro fitted HID's...

[Crasstoe]

When do these new changes come in? Are these the ones referenced above earlier in the thread? If so I bet there is a work around, generally is...

Dazzle intensity is actually increased by the use of projector lens, but only occurs when the beam is directed into someones face, so poorly set projectors will actually be more dangerous with HIDs, so those out there with HIDs fitted please make sure they are set to the right height or the bogey man will get you in your sleep :)

[davethefish]

The testers do not check that your car is road LEGAL but road WORTHY, the police however will not see this the same way.

This is one of those, you can't have one without the other things, lol. If your car fails an MOT test because it's not road worthy, It isn't given an MOT so it's not road legal!

Oh and the Policia would have a couple of bits of paper for you ;)

[Krait]

Well Mr. Singh,

You have opened a can of worms here and well done.

My son urged me to fit the HID kit as I have had HID's on the last Mazda6 for 5 years. Fantastic light illumination.

And, as someone mentioned above, I probably only used the headlight washers about 3 thimes in the 5 years. Never needed the darn things.

Well, my Nightbreaker plus arrived today and one was broken becaus the supplier stuck them in separate jiffy bags and one broke. If these are crap, then I guess I'll just have to try the HID's.

My greatest fear is not the cops or MOT, but having an accident and the insurance company declaring the car has been modified and therefore not insured. Although, I do prefer to be legal at all times.

Mr. Singh, please let us know the change in your beams.

Next topic to start will be fitting Cold Ait Intakes and Racing Beat Exhausts.

Cheers,

Krait.

[Crasstoe]

Next topic to start will be fitting Cold Ait Intakes and Racing Beat Exhausts.

+1 for making me laugh at work

[Mr Singh]

Woah.. this one did go on a little. Interesting never the less.

MOT is in May so these changes won't effect us this time round. But all the opinions and comments have valid points. For me its the legality with the insurance I'm more concerned about rather not the MOT/Police after reading everyones thoughts.

[Daveyonthemove]

You could always ask them for a quote with a kit fitted to see if they will change the premium, or refuse to accept the mod?

[Grumpy Old Man]

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[Grumpy Old Man]

OK so I thought that was going to show an embeded video.

Can't delete the post either, oh well, sorry.....

[Crasstoe]

OK so I thought that was going to show an embeded video.

Can't delete the post either, oh well, sorry.....

http://www.youtube.c...bed/yVuSSdZNsZw

That should work if you paste it into a browser ;)

Having just watched the video Illegal HIDs in projector lens' are nowhere near as bad as those shown in traditional reflector housings, and still give the correct beam pattern...