Auris Poor Mpg 2.0 Diesel Change To Civic 1.8 I-Vtec?

[AURISTR01]

Im a little disapointed in the Auris 2.0D MPG driven gently it wont do no better than 40MPG localy the MPG drops down to 35-37 for a diesel I dont see it as economical. The best I have had was 45MPG a recent Manchester-London trip but even 45MPG is low considering the claimed figures are 50MPG

I have reset the ECU, full service including filters, EGR Valve cleaned, tyre pressures inflated correctly etc.

I will see if the MPG improves over summer if not I will have to sell it.

Anybody know much about the CIVIC 1.8 I-VTEC according to reviews it returns 41PMG and thats a petrol engine, if any of you know much about this civic please post as im thinking of exchanging it.

Cheers

[Rick D4D]

I have used the civinfo forum for about 3 years now and do know that the 1.8 civic is claimed to return around 45-50 mpg driving sensible but the 2.2d is all so very good (no dpf and EGR problems are rare)but the diesel is prone for failed clutches especially when re mapped but you can now buy a better clutch. Drop in and ask the drivers on what they get http://www.civinfo.com/forum/index.php and unlike here they wont mark you down just because you drive a different brand car.

I am sure I saw a thread the other week where a owner of a 1.8 was bragging he got 58mpg on a run and was well chuffed but I would imagine that takes some work and no traffic to achieve.

[Sandy52]

Im a little disapointed in the Auris 2.0D MPG driven gently it wont do no better than 40MPG localy the MPG drops down to 35-37 for a diesel I dont see it as economical. The best I have had was 45MPG a recent Manchester-London trip but even 45MPG is low considering the claimed figures are 50MPG

I have reset the ECU, full service including filters, EGR Valve cleaned, tyre pressures inflated correctly etc.

I will see if the MPG improves over summer if not I will have to sell it.

Anybody know much about the CIVIC 1.8 I-VTEC according to reviews it returns 41PMG and thats a petrol engine, if any of you know much about this civic please post as im thinking of exchanging it.

Cheers

I have the same car and locally I get 44 mpg ( according to the coyota trip computer). I use standard fuel and add a diesel additive Millers. AND I have started adding acetone in small amounts to each fill up. I was hoping to get better MPG but it looks like it will be about 44 mpg on my car usage ( all local and no motorways).

[Mooly]

I looked at Honda (the Civic) 12 months ago but I honestly felt the cabin/dash fell miles short of the Auris for quality.

The clutch action on the showroom model was appalling... it felt like a 100K Ford Escort. Very hard and non linear with regard to applied pressure.

I'm amazed at the number of poor mpg threads for diesels on TOC. I could very nearly achieve the mpg many get on here in my previous TSport... I'm just pleased I stuck with petrol given all the problems, and not to mention the price differential of the fuel.

If you get the opportunity to try a 1.33 petrol Auris I would do so... you might be pleasantly surprised. I know I was :)

[AURISTR01]

I looked at Honda (the Civic) 12 months ago but I honestly felt the cabin/dash fell miles short of the Auris for quality.

The clutch action on the showroom model was appalling... it felt like a 100K Ford Escort. Very hard and non linear with regard to applied pressure.

I'm amazed at the number of poor mpg threads for diesels on TOC. I could very nearly achieve the mpg many get on here in my previous TSport... I'm just pleased I stuck with petrol given all the problems, and not to mention the price differential of the fuel.

If you get the opportunity to try a 1.33 petrol Auris I would do so... you might be pleasantly surprised. I know I was :)

I have had the Yaris T sport which was brilliant on juice 37+ MPG, the Corolla T Sport was thirsty 25-30MPG is what it returned on average

I dont understand why the Auris is thirsty I know its a 2.0 Lump but its diesel my previous Car Fabia VRS 1.9 TDI & that would do 48 MPG + with ease

I think the Auris diesels are mapped wrong IMO thats why they are not as eco, but im no expert.

Its a shame because the Auris is the newest car I have owned, reliabilty, comfort, practicality, safety, insurance etc is spot on just the MPG which in difficult times like this is an important factor, I dont know what to do :ffs:

Is the 1.3 under powered or do they go well?

[Cyker]

It does seem Toyota has cut back on diesel engine research on the more recent engines...

The 2.0 D4D in my brother's Corolla easily gets 55mpg, and my Yaris Mk1's 1.4 D4D averages 64mpg with a 1/4 motorway 3/4 urban driving split!

[Mooly]

Is the 1.3 under powered or do they go well?

They go really well... the only way you'll know is to try one over mixed conditions.

I had a Corolla TSport from new for 8 years and managed around 39/40 mpg consistently.

The 1.33 is managing around 50 to 50+ mpg and is a brilliant performer. The figures are real results, not just going of the dash readout.

[Phil_1985]

I would have gone for a Civic 2.2 CDTI, but rear visibility did not meet my requirements and coupled with the fact that I wanted a 5 door, of which I wasn't too keen on the styling, resulted in my plumping for the Auris!

[Sandy52]

my 2.0 l D-4D is giving me 44 mpg on local driving, no motorways. My average speed is about 25 mph.

I was expecting better MPG from a modern diesel engine.

I have done some research on this and some people do get ~50mpg wth the standard engine and no tricks. I am now not so sure about that figure and ~44 mpg is as good as you will get.

I would like like to be told I am wrong, and what I could do to improve my mpg.

[adamc260]

Is the 1.3 under powered or do they go well?

I have one and its very nippy! Pretty decent economy too and has stop/start :)! I was shocked but it shifts along. Cruises at 70mph at about 2900rpm and its silent on a cruise, very quiet when getting up to speed too unless you boot it then it shifts quite quickly :)

[GoSlow1981]

The worrying thing with the D-4D is the randomness of mpg people get... I'm getting 49mpg on a 80/20 split of A roads and local stuff, 46mpg on the commute to work. It's not doing as many as I expected but after seeing others mpg figures i'm quite pleased really! I think the quoted figures are unachievable.

[AURISTR01]

The 1.3 Auris owners seem to be a happy bunch.

Goslow, I would be happy if it did 45+MPG and for me thats only acheivable on the Motorway local its 40MPG, and the average MPG Indicator drops very easly but going up takes many miles to go back up.

I have tried using some Redex Diesel Fuel Treatment this week, I will see if it improves but unlikely as I have used it before, £2 at my local Asda cant do no harm. (Although some dont recommend it I know)

Im just a little disapointed because I could drive the Fabia briskly and still acheive 45MPG. This 2.0 Diesel lump has hardly any punch in standard form so I dont understand why its returning 10MPG less than the official quoted figures.

[adamc260]

Around stop/start traffic through cardiff city centre im averaging about 44-46mpg... on a nice long run i've seen about 54mpg from my 1.33 Auris! Still feels like im at the petrol station a lot but im doing quite a lot of miles and your getting less litres for your £ now too

[Daveyonthemove]

Sadly, no matter what car you own, or what engine it has, your fuel bills are going to increase, and MPG is now becoming more of an issue for the majority of us.

Small engined petrol cars are starting to catch up (and in some cases overtake) diesel engined cars, and they are generally cheaper to buy on the forecourt, but you have to trade off your extra power/speed of the 2.0 or 2.2 diesel engine with reasonable MPG for a smaller engined (and often slower) car with similar MPG.

Selling a diesel car these days is a gamble, simply because most drivers see the price of diesel is higher than petrol and think they are going to be worse off.

Also, insurance has gone up a lot recently and people are looking at cheaper cars to insure, so a smaller petrol engine will be more desirable. Road tax is also getting cheaper as cars become more economical...

At the end of the day, we all need to make changes that suit our own needs in order to get by, and the price of fuel is having a major impact on these decisions.

The decision for me is very easy, i would NEVER own a petrol engined car simply because i don't like the lack of torque and high running costs for a car of equal performance, so as much as i hate paying £1.40 for a litre of diesel, i prefer it to the alternative so i will continue to pay it (begrudgingly)and hope it comes down in price fairly soon.

[Crasstoe]

Remember that the quoted figures are those of the engine itself minus all running gear, so factor in the car itself and resistance and it isn't all that bad. The 2.0D4D uses alot of fuel because it is a 2 litre engine, simple as that. uses more fuel to keep on turning over. I get about 46mpg and I'm happy as I have a heavy foot and in the Megane I had before I could only get 35mpg unless I was on the motorway.

All personal preferance but I prefer the Auris, nearly got a Civic but the rear visibility, insurance costs and attention that it attracts put me off.