New Discs When Pads Replaced?

[redlew]

At the last service I was told that the front pads had only about another 3000 miles of life left in them and I've done that. Mileage is 60 000 and the pads on front and back are the originals.

I'm planning on keeping the car for another 5 years (currently 5.5 years old). So

1. Should I get the rear pads changed at the same time or wait until they wear out (don't know why they are less worn)

2. Should I get the discs front and/or rear done at the same time?

Any idea of what a fair price should be for a garage to (a) supply and fit front pads and (B) supply and fit front discs? Is the price for the rear going to be much the same?

Thanks all -and before anyone suggests it, I will not be doing it myself.Don't have the time/inclination/tools/ability.

[Big Kev]

At the last service I was told that the front pads had only about another 3000 miles of life left in them and I've done that. Mileage is 60 000 and the pads on front and back are the originals.

I'm planning on keeping the car for another 5 years (currently 5.5 years old). So

1. Should I get the rear pads changed at the same time or wait until they wear out (don't know why they are less worn)

2. Should I get the discs front and/or rear done at the same time?

Any idea of what a fair price should be for a garage to (a) supply and fit front pads and (B) supply and fit front discs? Is the price for the rear going to be much the same?

Thanks all -and before anyone suggests it, I will not be doing it myself.Don't have the time/inclination/tools/ability.

I would think at that mileage your discs (all 4) would pretty much be up for renewal too, Redlew. Well done for getting 60k out of pads AND discs in the first place....!!!! I would certainly advocate that you use an indie garage you trust, as it's not a difficult job, so why pay top labour rates. Get parts price off Kingo, and compare them to recently fitted Apec pads recommended to me by some brake specialist in The Peak District...seem to work pure brill.

Big Kev

[redlew]

Had a quick net search for prices for all makes of car -looks as if I could be paying around £400 for the lot-ouch -this comes on the cambelt change + major service earlier this year of £550 and four new tyres at £400.

What next -exhaust,battery,water pump, radiator, clutch? Maybe selling once the car hit five years old would have been a better idea .....

[Davrav]

At the last service I was told that the front pads had only about another 3000 miles of life left in them and I've done that. Mileage is 60 000 and the pads on front and back are the originals.

I'm planning on keeping the car for another 5 years (currently 5.5 years old). So

1. Should I get the rear pads changed at the same time or wait until they wear out (don't know why they are less worn)

2. Should I get the discs front and/or rear done at the same time?

Any idea of what a fair price should be for a garage to (a) supply and fit front pads and (B) supply and fit front discs? Is the price for the rear going to be much the same?

Thanks all -and before anyone suggests it, I will not be doing it myself.Don't have the time/inclination/tools/ability.

The main reasons why discs need to be replaced are: If they are worn very close to or beyond tolerance, they are scored or badly corroded on the friction surface, they are warped and causing judder or they are cracked.

Fronts wear more than rears due to the fact that they do the lion's share of the braking.

I would have thought an hour and a half to two hours for an experienced fitter would cover it.

You can save quite a bit by sourcing your own parts and paying a reliable garage or fitter to put them on for you

[crofter]

As the illustrious Big Kevinous has shrewdly suggested, ask around your mates if they have an indie garage they swear by,(not at).

Another thing you may like to consider is the mileage that you do,and how you drive re braking.

I do not do a lot of mileage now and try to avoid heavy braking by anticipation,which could also be the way you drive,judging by how your pads last

The garage would be guesstimating the life left in your pads,as for someone with a heavy right foot on both pedals,as would be the right thing to do.

The reason I suggest this is because I have been told on two MOTs(one recent)that my brake pads will need changing,but not yet!!

SO,how long will it take to do that mileage and have to fork out on the next bill?

Del(now donning tin hat for incoming)

[Mistermena]

Apec are a good set. What about looking at MTEC set up to? And like said take them to a garage that you trust

[anchorman]

Had a quick net search for prices for all makes of car -looks as if I could be paying around £400 for the lot-ouch -this comes on the cambelt change + major service earlier this year of £550 and four new tyres at £400.

What next -exhaust,battery,water pump, radiator, clutch? Maybe selling once the car hit five years old would have been a better idea .....

.............and maybe you should stick a set of pads in if they are worn and forget about everything else. If the discs are worn change them. If not leave them alone

[El Bee]

............and maybe you should stick a set of pads in if they are worn and forget about everything else. If the discs are worn change them. If not leave them alone

Wot he sez!

Garages etc tend to be a bit pessimistic about pad wear (I'd NEVER be so cynical as to suggest they were looking for work) but if you look at the pads through the wheels you can see how much "meat" is left when you think they need it, ideally just before the metal on metal hissing sound, change, or get somebuggerelse to change them.

Poke yer finger onto the disc, run it across the area swept by the pads towards the outside edge and feel for a ridge, if said ridge is as thick as a CD or more give it a closer look and a proper measure, might need to think about changing it.

Just as an aside, when my previous motah (a VW) was in for service the garage rang me and said the rear pads needed changing, "how much" said I, "€120" said they, "not on your life" said I, had a good look and changed them 30,000kms later, cost me €24 and 30 mins of my time.. Genuine VW pads too....... from the UK And when I sold it, at starship mileage, it was still on the original discs!

Lee

[Big Kev]

Had a quick net search for prices for all makes of car -looks as if I could be paying around £400 for the lot-ouch -this comes on the cambelt change + major service earlier this year of £550 and four new tyres at £400.

What next -exhaust,battery,water pump, radiator, clutch? Maybe selling once the car hit five years old would have been a better idea .....

.............and maybe you should stick a set of pads in if they are worn and forget about everything else. If the discs are worn change them. If not leave them alone

aha...a novel approach, sir, one which I might well adopt, and indeed register and patent it....

"If it isnae broked, dinnae fix it...?" You may well have seen similar sayings in another language or dialect, but nonetheless, I claim to be the first to implement / adopt.

Eloquent Kev (today...)

[redlew]

UPDATE

Front pads changed today -discs not needed. Rear pads checked -only half worn (not bad for 60K) and rear discs ok.

Total £98 - a lot better than the £400 I was fearing.

Thanks for all contributions.

[Big Kev]

UPDATE

Front pads changed today -discs not needed. Rear pads checked -only half worn (not bad for 60K) and rear discs ok.

Total £98 - a lot better than the £400 I was fearing.

Thanks for all contributions.

Result of great goodness, redlew....still confounds me, though....if I get 60k out of my discs I will be more than pleased.

(Now...change up to third gear and try cruising at 25mph.... )

Big Kev

[renault12ts]

One man's 60,000 miles is not the same as another's. If the discs are worn, by all means replace them, if not, why would you spend the money. Measure them.

Same with the pads, if they're worn, replace them, if not don't. The thing here is to inspect them.

[Big Kev]

One man's 60,000 miles is not the same as another's. If the discs are worn, by all means replace them, if not, why would you spend the money. Measure them.

Same with the pads, if they're worn, replace them, if not don't. The thing here is to inspect them.

Totally relevant in the case of the 4.1 / 4.2. but 60k will be a miracle on my and other 4.3 with the new improved pad material that rubs off/adheres to the discs so well that they only guarantee them for 18k miles/2 years, after which it becomes "fair wear and tear...". Desperate not to open that old wound again....have a search at the ACRES of posts only last year....one man's 60k becomes another man's dream....

Big Kev.

I should really own up to the fact that my pads were all changed at 19k to offset the above fault....the braking, especially in the wet, is greatly improved, and the totally bowfin' brown discs are cleaning up great....

[Davrav]

One man's 60,000 miles is not the same as another's. If the discs are worn, by all means replace them, if not, why would you spend the money. Measure them.

Same with the pads, if they're worn, replace them, if not don't. The thing here is to inspect them.

Totally relevant in the case of the 4.1 / 4.2. but 60k will be a miracle on my and other 4.3 with the new improved pad material that rubs off/adheres to the discs so well that they only guarantee it for 18k miles/2 years, after which it becomes "fair wear and tear...". Desperate not to open that old wound again....have a search at the ACRES of posts only last year....one man's 60k becomes another man's miracle....

Big Kev.

Exactly Kev.

2008 4.3 @ 41K miles, front pads 30% worn but discs corroded on inside. Discs skimmed and new pads fitted.

Strangely no evidence of depositing with new pads [and braking feels a lot more positive] though I'm pretty sure Kingo didn't think pad compound had been changed when we previously discussed the issue of 'premature' disc replacement

[bothwell_buyer]

My number 1 RAV, on about 180k miles still runs with the original rear brake drums and I think only its second set of brake shoes. They were checked 3 months ago and all was still well. Then again I run through front discs and pads fairly quickly.....I think its the way I brake when landing ??? :wacko: With the 4.1 3 door almost all the braking is done at the front. I don't normally drive that fast in reverse right enough.