Yaris 1, Punto Turbo 0

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as i'm borrowing her car this week, i dropped her home tonight and was on my way home.

Coming down onto my private A road (seeing as its my private road, he should not of been on it anyway ;) )

anyway, just accelreatd up to around 40/45 and car behind all over the bumper, so i thought, oh sod it, and floored it. It sat there all the way upto around 90mph and as the traffic lights were red (yep, traffic lights on me private road) i slowed down, he moved over but slower down more. I stopped in the outside lane at the traffic lights and we was slowly approaching them, obvioulsy to continue rolling for the launch.

Light go green, we both shoot off, over her exhaust all i could hear was his dump valve as he changed gear. I think he managed to come up level with the car right at the beginning as we pulled away, and then her little yaris pulled further and further in front, I got to 90mph and though thats enough, point proven and i slowed, indicated, he let me in front and then sped past.

Funny, cos i thought that firat punto turbos were pretty nippy.

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may i just add, i dont condone this kind of thing.

but sometimes, just sometimes a point needs to be proven exspecially when its on on ya private road :)

[97paseo]

Boosted Punto's are about 130/140 I thought? - Starlet GT teritory.

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Boosted Punto's are about 130/140 I thought

as in boosted do u means turbo'd? or mod'd??

might be its only mod was dump valve.

i'm thinking this one next to me couldn;t get grip down, and it was a wet road, hence why he done a rolling start at the lights.

Miss t has 215x40x16's and i always say, grip makes a less powerfull car faster, i've proven it in my car.

ps - if anyone think s i'm making this up, i'm not one for that, i'm happy to admit that i've been beaten in my own car by things, its all fun at the end of the day. Infact there is a little dihatsu charade 1.0 3cylinder turbo that to about 70mph or so is quicker than my car, and i think thats brilliant. I also once got overtaken by a 306 rally jobbie and it happily left me.

[97paseo]

as in boosted do u means turbo'd? or mod'd??

Yea I meant turbo'ed. :)

Must be a nightmare in the Scooby with everyone trying to prove a point all the time.

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Must be a nightmare in the Scooby with everyone trying to prove a point all the time

you'd be amazed at that kinda cars that sit on my bumper. must admit 90% are bmw's.

I'm just looking at some info on the punto turbs

Engine

Position: 4 cylinders in line, fitted transversally

Capacity: 1372 cc

Max power: 136 HP at 5750 rpm (1st series)

Max power: 133 HP at 5750 rpm (2nd series)

Max power: 130 HP at 5600 rpm (3rd series)

Torque: 204 Nm at 3000 rpm

Tyres

185/55 R14

Performance

Acceleration 0-100 km/h: 7.9 seconds

quite easy to see why i beat it. Cos 7.9 is not going to be achievable in the wet on 185 tyres. Sometimes 0-60 times just make me laugh, cos they just aren;t possible with 2wd cars, even with traction control as that just slows things down. Generally i think its safe to assume that most, ok, not all, 0-60 times are theoritcal max, or on a rolling road.

only 4wd with !Removed! good grip can hope to achieve its 0-60, and i say with good grip, cos not all 4wd have got that.

[Surinder]

the old punto gt's run at 125bhp, and the new HGT ones 135bhp from what i can remember. But they aint that quick, 0-60 times in the mid 8's, the new HGT ones are also slower than the older ones even tho they have more power.

whoops didnt read the last post

Edited March 24, 2004 by Surinder

[gerard]

mike spence used to do a good turbo upgrade for the car. I think it was 6.5 secs to 60

[Ryan1985]

Well my bro's got a 2nd series HGT which is standard apart from NGK Iridium spark plugs! We have raced 2 or 3 T-Sports (standard) and we pi55ed all over them and left them as if they were standing still, altho this wos in the dry! We have timed our 0-60 on a private road btw and we got bout 7.5 altho this wos just with a stop watch!

Just my 2 pence

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Max power: 136 HP at 5750 rpm (1st series)

Max power: 133 HP at 5750 rpm (2nd series)

Max power: 130 HP at 5600 rpm (3rd series)

Boosted Punto's are about 130/140 I thought? - Starlet GT teritory.

He he hee! Spot-on... :D

I looked at getting a GT when I had a stupid thing about Fiat's - thank god I woke-up! Anyway saw a dead nice one with tints & white Dynamics 16's etc but the insurance was daft at the time.

You tend to see more Sporting's than turboed one's.

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We have raced 2 or 3 T-Sports (standard)

hers aint.

first rolling road after the hks induction kit and backbox was 119bhp, since then we''ve had the restrictive centre pipe removed, ecotek valve (not convinced this is a performance mod, but helps on fuel) and uprated manifold.

hers should also be around the 7.5 mark, obviously depending on fuel.

The road was very wet when i came against it, so thats why i would say that i spanked it. In the dry, it would of no doubt been a different story, but whats good having all that power if ya dry use only???

What group are the Punt turbs? insruance wise?

A friend of mine has got a renault 11 turbo, thats a 1.4 with the same enigne as the renault 5, and his is pretty quick, but he also has problems getting power down. His car is a group 12, the tsport is just a 7. I seriously don't think much touches it within that group.

[Yarisboy]

but it's not a group7 car after you've modded it the way you have... mods increase premium!

Intake, manifold, exhaust, flywheel, etc... for younger drivers the premium would go through the roof with those mods.

And on a sidenote... any car should put the power down effectively with the right tyres, it's just that the 'correct' tyres are rarely put on the car to begin with... not many people realise that.

Regardless, good show I suppose... that particular punto HGT driver will now spread the word that the Yaris (he probably didn't even know what model it was) is not a car to be taken as lightly as people like to.

sam

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but it's not a group7 car after you've modded it the way you have... mods increase premium!

indeed, but add those same mods to a standard group 12 car and you'll strill be worse off.

how many group 7 cars have 106bhp with 0-60 in 9?

my escort was a 1.6si 90bhp 0-60 in several weeks and was a group 8.

rs turbos? group 15? 16? standard 0-60 what 8'ish? not much quicker.

that particular punto HGT driver will now spread the word that the Yaris (he probably didn't even know what model it was) is not a car to be taken as lightly as people like to

i hope so.

please don't get me wrong, peeps, i don't pretend the yaris, tsport or otherwise is the fastest car on the road and will beat all others, i just found it amusing that i won. As soon as i heard the dv going off, i was waiting for it to go past, and i really didn't have a clue what was next to me at the time, thought maybe i'd gone and picked on a scoob or something.

still, lsd & s/c on the tsport and you will be able to.

any car should put the power down effectively with the right tyres

yep, totally agree, and the correct tyre even wider help even more.

Intake, manifold, exhaust, flywheel, etc... for younger drivers the premium would go through the roof with those mods.

yet, how many younger drivers do you see with modified rs turbo's etc. a fair few, especially when you goto various club meets etc.

[Seab]

i have to agree with ryan my mate had a hgt and it ate me alive now hes swapped it for a civic type R so i have no chance

[SRi_James]

well done tiktok....i bet the punto driver was pisssed off

tbh i recon the punto driver was just simply sh*t or had serious traction problems

i wonder how much quicker ur misses T- sport is with the extra 10 odd bhp.

im lookin forward to slightly tunin my bros T- sport :D

james

[Ryan1985]

Just 2 clarify things here!

Series 1 Punto GT's are 1.4 turbo's, series 2 HGT's are 1.8 normally aspirated as are the series 3's!

Well my bro's got Toyo Proxes T1-S so that probably helped also! :D

Cheers

[SRi_James]

ryan1985... i think u used the wrong words... :P

u mean the "MARK1" punto GT is a 1.4 turbo, where as the "MARK2" punto Hgt is a N/A 1.8

and there are 3 different series of engines for the mark1 punto GT (to my knowledge the difference is the compression ratios and they are all arround the low 130bhp mark)

lmao... just thought id TRY to be a picky bassterd (plz correct me anyone if im wrong)

james

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:)

err i got that info about the gt's from some website, as i've not a clue about any of em.

i wonder how much quicker ur misses T- sport is with the extra 10 odd bhp.

her first r/r = 119, standard 106, so thats 13bhp, :P and since then shes had the upgraded manifold, removed the restrictve centre section and lightend flywheel. You gotta remmeber, 10bhp on a car that light makes far more difference that mine. You can add 50bhp to my car and only notice the difference if you play with a standard one. I think that plenty of the yaris guys on here that have done similar mods will agree that it don't take much to increase the tsports accleration nicely. A couple of em have done 1/4 mile runs i think if i remember correctly.

lmao... just thought id TRY to be a picky bassterd  (plz correct me anyone if im wrong)

na, ya right, you are a picky bassterd. :P

at the end of the day, the yaris is a fannytastic little motor, its JAP, and JAP rules.

[SRi_James]

her first r/r = 119, standard 106, so thats 13bhp, :P

dont get me started on RRs

(jokes...the above is not an invertation)

james :P

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:)

yeah, rr's are genreally inaccurate, but what can ya do? how else do ya get any idea as to ya power output? you can really on go on what the various rr places say.

we are thinking, when ig et my car back on the road, to taking a trip to PE, but again, i've heard both good and bad comments about them and thats just on scoobynet.

i want a little garage and me own rollers, obviously 4x4 :)

[SRi_James]

yeah, rr's are genreally inaccurate, but what can ya do? how else do ya get any idea as to ya power output?

well the best thing to do is to have ur car rr'd before and after the mods are fitted on the same rr. that way it should be more accurate!

we are thinking, when ig et my car back on the road, to taking a trip to PE, but again, i've heard both good and bad comments about them and thats just on scoobynet.

well iv only heard good things from power engineerin!

tho i must say they ****** me off wen they double booked the pulsar guys with us corsa sport guys (www.corsasport.co.uk :P :)) a few months back...gues wat, the pulsar guys got the session instead of us...and we only got told about 12hrs before the session was due, even tho we booked about 2months in advance!

oh well, sh*t happens!

james

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well iv only heard good things from power engineerin!

maybe i'll look into it then, as i certainly want to have mine done, cos i can only esitmate as to whats it running compared to other people with simliar mods.

can u remember what the price was?

[jaxx]

puntos are just generally rubbish tho! jap rules

[minifreak]

really sorry guys, but dont want to start an arguments, but the punto GT will not have a problem with a yaris.

0-60 times on them are very misleading due to 60 being in 3rd and being a turbo the lag doesnt help.

but a standard GT can achieve a 1/4 mile in 15.5 to 16 second.

now they have 135bhp as standard but withas little as a bleed and higher safe boost you can see 165-170bhp...

just thought id clear that up.

thanks

Greg

[kimi]

god this is an old post

it may be faster to 60 yards...but then the punto brakes down