Diesel Injector Fuel Cleaners

[fat Bob]

I have always wondered what is in this expensive preparation and today I bought a bottle that said it contained just Kerosene.

If it is just kerosene it is very expensive kerosene.

What are your thoughts/ideas/suggestions?

[dervdave]

I have always wondered what is in this expensive preparation and today I bought a bottle that said it contained just Kerosene. If it is just kerosene it is very expensive kerosene. What are your thoughts/ideas/suggestions?

Yeah Bob if it says its just kerosene you bought an expensive bottle of kerosene :D

[Mistermena]

I have always wondered what is in this expensive preparation and today I bought a bottle that said it contained just Kerosene. If it is just kerosene it is very expensive kerosene. What are your thoughts/ideas/suggestions?

Yeah Bob if it says its just kerosene you bought an expensive bottle of kerosene :D

Lol... Now, now mate! hahahahaha :P

[Mistermena]

I have always wondered what is in this expensive preparation and today I bought a bottle that said it contained just Kerosene. If it is just kerosene it is very expensive kerosene. What are your thoughts/ideas/suggestions?

Yeah Bob if it says its just kerosene you bought an expensive bottle of kerosene :D

Lol... Now, now mate! hahahahaha

I have always wondered what is in this expensive preparation and today I bought a bottle that said it contained just Kerosene.

If it is just kerosene it is very expensive kerosene.

What are your thoughts/ideas/suggestions?

:P

Bob... most have the 28 sec oil in them as the major liquid! But take a search to see whats in BG244. This also has a lot of an additive called PEA.

[fat Bob]

So what do you really think is in this snake oil?

[Mistermena]

So what do you really think is in this snake oil?

1 Python, 3 Rattlers and 7 King Cobra's!

[dervdave]

Not `Snake oil` but is probably mainly kerosene anyway.

[dervdave]

So what do you really think is in this snake oil?

Did you get my PM Bob ?

Some think they`re all `snake oil` , which one did you buy ?

[dervdave]

So what do you really think is in this snake oil?

By the manner of your question and at an educated guess I`d say kerosene :D

[fat Bob]

The bottle I purchased was from one of the major supplier of these products.

From my research so far they do contain kerosene and various alcohols. These fluids will burn hotter than diesel thus burning off deposits.

While I am a commited un-reconstructed capitalist, I feel we may just be paying through the nose for these fuel cleaner products.

Looking at the BG244 website, (ignoring the bad spelling) I wonder what is in it? It sounds homeopathic as it seemingly does nothing but good and harms practically nothing.

[dervdave]

The bottle I purchased was from one of the major supplier of these products. From my research so far they do contain kerosene and various alcohols. These fluids will burn hotter than diesel thus burning off deposits. While I am a commited un-reconstructed capitalist, I feel we may just be paying through the nose for these fuel cleaner products. Looking at the BG244 website, (ignoring the bad spelling) I wonder what is in it? It sounds homeopathic as it seemingly does nothing but good and harms practically nothing.

If you feel they do nowt, don`t buy them then Bob and save yourself a few quid. ;)

[fat Bob]

I realise we have a choice when buying these products and they would seem to be beneficial.

I have spent an hour looking into what is in them - I chose a leading American brand.

It contains:

Aliphatic Hydrocarbons - CAS 64742-47-8, 64742-88-7, otherwise known as Petrolium Distillate or Petrol.

Petroleum based Lubricating Oil - CAS 64742-46-7, Tridecafluoro-l-octonol (sounds a bit like dry cleaning fluid).

Diisopheptyl Phthalate - CAS 71888-89-6, Carbolic Acid & ethers.

Calcium Sulfonate - CAS N/A (mixture) - Odourless Kerosene.

I am not a chemist but it looks like it contains Petrol, Kerosene & cleaning agents.

I am going to run it past a suitably qualified contact.

[dervdave]

I realise we have a choice when buying these products and they would seem to be beneficial. I have spent an hour looking into what is in them - I chose a leading American brand. It contains: Aliphatic Hydrocarbons - CAS 64742-47-8, 64742-88-7, otherwise known as Petrolium Distillate or Petrol. Petroleum based Lubricating Oil - CAS 64742-46-7, Tridecafluoro-l-octonol (sounds a bit like dry cleaning fluid). Diisopheptyl Phthalate - CAS 71888-89-6, Carbolic Acid & ethers. Calcium Sulfonate - CAS N/A (mixture) - Odourless Kerosene. I am not a chemist but it looks like it contains Petrol, Kerosene & cleaning agents. I am going to run it past a suitably qualified contact.

I had a feeling your posts were heading somewhere in particular

Haway then Bob I`ll buy it, which one are you promoting ?

[Mistermena]

I'm on the edge of me seat now!...

[cabcurtains]

I realise we have a choice when buying these products and they would seem to be beneficial.

I have spent an hour looking into what is in them - I chose a leading American brand.

It contains:

Aliphatic Hydrocarbons - CAS 64742-47-8, 64742-88-7, otherwise known as Petrolium Distillate or Petrol.

Petroleum based Lubricating Oil - CAS 64742-46-7, Tridecafluoro-l-octonol (sounds a bit like dry cleaning fluid).

Diisopheptyl Phthalate - CAS 71888-89-6, Carbolic Acid & ethers.

Calcium Sulfonate - CAS N/A (mixture) - Odourless Kerosene.

I am not a chemist but it looks like it contains Petrol, Kerosene & cleaning agents.

I am going to run it past a suitably qualified contact.

I hope your contact isnt welsh dude goes by the name of Taff and sells snake oil :hokus-pokus: he's a magician

[Mistermena]

I realise we have a choice when buying these products and they would seem to be beneficial.

I have spent an hour looking into what is in them - I chose a leading American brand.

It contains:

Aliphatic Hydrocarbons - CAS 64742-47-8, 64742-88-7, otherwise known as Petrolium Distillate or Petrol.

Petroleum based Lubricating Oil - CAS 64742-46-7, Tridecafluoro-l-octonol (sounds a bit like dry cleaning fluid).

Diisopheptyl Phthalate - CAS 71888-89-6, Carbolic Acid & ethers.

Calcium Sulfonate - CAS N/A (mixture) - Odourless Kerosene.

I am not a chemist but it looks like it contains Petrol, Kerosene & cleaning agents.

I am going to run it past a suitably qualified contact.

I hope your contact isnt welsh dude goes by the name of Taff and sells snake oil :hokus-pokus: he's a magician

Lmao! :group-cuddles: :fishyface: :arrgg-matey: :hokus-pokus: :cacker: :bookworm:

[fat Bob]

Guys I am at a loss here, there is obviously some in joke I am not aware of.

I certainly have no connection with anyone or any company that sells this product.

I am just a concerned consumer who feels he is paying through the nose for this product.

There is a recession going on and I am sure most of us would like to know a bit more about this product and possibly save money.

[cabcurtains]

Easy Bob, its just a bit of fun. Mr M is a big fan of the BG244 thats all :)

[dervdave]

I am just a concerned consumer who feels he is paying through the nose for this product. There is a recession going on and I am sure most of us would like to know a bit more about this product and possibly save money.

You haven`t said what it is yet Bob, why the secret ?

[Mistermena]

Just having a bit of fun mate...

Okay... I've used many fuel additives over the years! Millers Diesel Clean, Forte, Redex ect. And the only one that I've found that works is the BG products. The reason why (I think) it stands out from the rest is due to the high PEA content. Some people use this (As well as other) and find that it works for there car! I subscribe to that view. Not everyone does!...

Using a fuel like V-Power can help maintain the cars fuel system including the DPF and EGR valve. I've just cleaned mine out yesterday and it wasn't that bad after almost 10k, now this could be because I've always used V-Power derv or it could be that every 10k I use BG! or it could be a combination of the two! who knows...

If you think (Like a lot of others) that this kinda additive is not worth the money then just done buy it and maybe run the car on a premium fuel like BP or Shell. The V-Power is a GTL (Gas To Liquid) and although the core is mineral it has synth properties, so its (For want of a better word) a semi synth diesel fuel. :)

[fat Bob]

I am just a concerned consumer who feels he is paying through the nose for this product. There is a recession going on and I am sure most of us would like to know a bit more about this product and possibly save money.

You haven`t said what it is yet Bob, why the secret ?

There is no secret - I haven't been looking especially at one particular product. I was looking at them generally.

Most of the suppliers/manufacturers think or say their product is the best and I was also attempting to sort through the claims and look what was in the product.

I haven't mentioned any product names to be fair and wouldn't want to make false or misleading claims or make what could be construed as libellous/slanderous statements.

Do you know what is in your fuel additive?

[dervdave]

I am just a concerned consumer who feels he is paying through the nose for this product. There is a recession going on and I am sure most of us would like to know a bit more about this product and possibly save money.

You haven`t said what it is yet Bob, why the secret ?

There is no secret - I haven't been looking especially at one particular product. I was looking at them generally. Most of the suppliers/manufacturers think or say their product is the best and I was also attempting to sort through the claims and look what was in the product. I haven't mentioned any product names to be fair and wouldn't want to make false or misleading claims or make what could be construed as libellous/slanderous statements.

`misleading claims or make what could be construed as libellous/slanderous statements` ?

Haway Bob thats a funny thing to say we`re all friends here, your comments would only be your opinion as far as we are concerned.

Sounds like your dodging the question to me and have a hidden agenda ?

[fat Bob]

I can assure you I have no agenda but to have some clear and concise information as to what is in these products.

I appreciate your scepticism - it is a useful attribute.

[dervdave]

I can assure you I have no agenda but to have some clear and concise information as to what is in these products. I appreciate your scepticism - it is a useful attribute.

OK Bob which one did you buy then ?

The info on these products you require is probably beyond the likes of the ordinary punters here on the forum and suggest if it has to be so clear and concise you`d need to refer your questions to the manufacturers involved. ;)

[cabcurtains]

Just get some thats for common rail diesels and see if it makes any difference then post your opinion.

Or read this;

Car running costs Diesel fuel additives compared

Millers Diesel Power Sport 4 (500ml)* £11.99

Fuel additive's claims

• Increases cetane by up to four numbers
  
• Increases power – up to 17.5% more bhp
  
• Increases mpg by up to 7%
  
• Reduces exhaust emissions – 70% less smoke, 20% less carbon
  
• Treats 500 litres of diesel
  

Findings

• Cost per treated litre of standard diesel: £1.08
  
• Extra cost per tankful: £1.44
  
• Cetane: up by 3.5 numbers
  
• Power, torque and fuel economy: no significant change
  

We say

Millers pretty much lives up to its cetane rating claims, but it offers no power or economy benefits. Some emissions fell, but not during urban use. This contrasts with a small increase in soot, but only under motorway conditions.

Is it worth it? No.

*Since our tests, Millers has announced a new product called Millers Diesel Power ECOMAX. The claims are similar, but it may have different effects on performance. Diesel Power Sport 4 is still on sale.

Wynn’s Supremium Diesel (250ml) £5.99

Fuel additive's claims

• Reduces fuel consumption
  
• Increases engine power
  
• Reduces noxious exhaust gases by up to 20%
  
• Cetane improver
  
• Treats 250 litres of diesel
  

Findings

• Cost per treated litre of standard diesel: £1.08
  
• Extra cost per tankful: £1.44
  
• Cetane: up by 2.9 numbers
  
• Power, torque and fuel economy: no significant change
  

We say

Wynn's Supremium Diesel does improve the cetane rating and costs less than filling up with ‘premium’ diesel. But we didn’t measure any tangible benefits.

Is it worth it? No.

Redex 0 To 60 Cetane Booster (500ml) £9.99

Fuel additive's claims

• Increases the cetane number of diesel fuel by up to two numbers
  
• Increases fuel economy
  
• Treats 50 litres of diesel
  

Findings

• Cost per treated litre of standard diesel: £1.25
  
• Extra cost per tankful: £11.99
  
• Cetane: up by 1.2 numbers
  
• Power, torque and fuel economy: no significant change
  

We say

Redex did boost the cetane rating and reduce carbon monoxide (CO) and nitrogen oxide (NOx) emissions on the motorway. But it costs nearly £12 per tankful, and with no signs of the promised fuel economy benefits.

Is it worth it? No.

PD-5 Fuel treatment (250ml) (tested in diesel) £18.50

Fuel additive's claims

• Increases engine power (power booster)
  
• Reduces fuel consumption (economiser)
  
• Works with both petrol and diesel
  
• Treats 1,000 litres
  

Findings

• Cost per treated litre of standard diesel: £1.07
  
• Extra cost per tankful: £1.11
  
• Cetane: up by 1.4 numbers
  
• Torque: up 1.7%
  
• Power and fuel economy: no significant change
  

We say

PD-5 Fuel treatment is cheaper than using premium diesel, but we don’t think you’ll notice the marginal torque and cetane increase we found.

Is it worth it? Probably not.