Where To Put The Scangauge

[Hoovie]

Had the new RAV4 for two months and been musing about where to install my Scanguage

On the old RAV4.2, I fitted above the Mirror using Velcro and that was a very handy location

On the new RAV4.3, that location has been taken by the TPMS Display, so a new location was needed.

Got some good ideas from Stew and Dave, but due to subtle changes in the switch layouts on the current RAV4, could not adopt.

So sat in the car last night having a think where would work and came up with a very handy location

Firstly made a bracket out of a meccano-like strip and attached to the Scangauge case (making sure the screw would not interfere with any internals ....

Put the Scangauge back together and bolted to the previously fitted Dashmount Bracket ....

And then refitted the Phone Bracket (now rotated 90 degrees) which fits neatly underneath now ....

Not yet gone for a drive and checked it out for stability (that will be later this evening on the Friday Night takeaway run ) but so far looks promising.

Once confirmed as good (hopefully!), will be making the wiring for the phone permanent and will route both that and the EOBD cable though a small cutout on the side trim panel of the Sat Nav housing area.

[Davrav]

Good Lord Dave, you'll soon have more readouts than a Starship.

Very neat solution

[Big Kev]

Good Lord Dave, you'll soon have more readouts than a Starship. Very neat solution

Neat solution ma bahooky, Davrav.....everybody driving in The Borders forthwith will be doing 29.78mph after looking in their rear mirror and seeing a bloody big (sometimes....) white 4 x 4 vehicle with hunnerz of gizmoistics in the windscreen.

Only saving grace is they will eventually click that there is a height minimum for being a polismin.....

Bad Kev (All else apart, imagine coming on here, with folk like Bothy, Jedi, Local Hero, even the mild mannered me, and asking "where should ah stick this....?" )

[Hoovie]

I wondered why every is driving slowly around me. I do like to wear a Hi-Viz jacket as well of course ;)

[anchorman]

It'll take you an hour to do all your pre flight checks soon Hoov and then you won't be able to see out!

[Hoovie]

and the in-flight catering is still hampered by the lack of the car microwave :)

On the Old RAV. used the Scanguage to show speed, range to empty and economy as the OBC and Gauge info was so badly out. On the New RAV, all that is virtually perfect from the OBC, so even now I have worked out the positon for the Scangauge, not sure what data to actually have it show!

[Daveyonthemove]

With the scangauge, do you have to manually enter he PID's you want it to read and display, or does it know automatically?

The reason I ask, is my Android is running an app called 'Torque' to monitor live data and clear fault codes, but it won't register the fuel gauge, so if you have a specific PID for that value, I would be grateful if you could share it?

[local hero]

and the in-flight catering is still hampered by the lack of the car microwave :)

On the Old RAV. used the Scanguage to show speed, range to empty and economy as the OBC and Gauge info was so badly out. On the New RAV, all that is virtually perfect from the OBC, so even now I have worked out the positon for the Scangauge, not sure what data to actually have it show!

I have mine on CWT (water temp) (MPL miles per litre) volts and RPM, but switch it about for speed, etc, I tried BHP and Torque but don't think they are more than a very wild Guestimate IMO..Stew

[Hoovie]

cheers stew. Doing about 150 miles later today so will have a play around. just been reading the manual again to remind myself how to use it!

I noticed and interesting difference between petrol and manual actually. on the RAV4.2 the air intake temp would increase a lot once warmed up, but on the diesel (qashqai and RAV4.3) the air intake stays more like ambient air temp. Ties up with Dons comment about when diesel is more efficient with cooler air.

[Hoovie]

With the scangauge, do you have to manually enter he PID's you want it to read and display, or does it know automatically?

The reason I ask, is my Android is running an app called 'Torque' to monitor live data and clear fault codes, but it won't register the fuel gauge, so if you have a specific PID for that value, I would be grateful if you could share it?

PID?

Best I can suggest is goto scanguage.com and look for a guide on X-gauge programming. will tell you some info and for sure more then I know!

How are you connecting the android device to the EOBD?

edit: just looked on market····· bluetooth eobd. clever stuff. Could you post some info and opinion on this solution? sounds interesting :)

[Daveyonthemove]

I will have a look at the Scangauge site now...

Yes, I use a bluetooth OBD reader, and it is flawless. All the data I need and more is available with this app, and I customise what data is on each page, and whether it is displayed as a graph, dial or digital readout. Very clever stuff.

I did do a quick intro to it when I joined the forum a year ago...

http://www.toyotaownersclub.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=117577&hl=torque&fromsearch=1

I now have a dedicated car mount for my phone, and have hidden the wires to the phone charger inside the dash, so the install is clutter free and all music and navigation etc runs through my car radio on the Aux input.

[Hoovie]

cheers!

I've got 3 android devices ( including the rubbish one i am usinf to reply on now :) ) and very tempted to try that. will post a few questions on your thread later today.

Intersting - and annoying - how much these devices dropped in price. The same bluetooth OBD device as you have halved in price now and the scangauge II dropped by 2/3rds from when I bought mine!

[Daveyonthemove]

Typical!

Handy to know though incase it gets lost or damaged, as mine is plugged in constantly in the drivers side footwell. Occasionally it takes a knock when I have work boots on.

[Scorpion-gb]

Once again I have learned something useful from this forum. I didn't even know that such a thing as 'Scangauge' existed until I read this post! That could come in very handy now that I have replaced the original head unit in the Rav that used to give out that type of info regarding fuel economy etc.

Don't really think I need the Scangauge II, might just go for the ScangaugeE as I doubt I would use many of the extra functions on the II.

[Hoovie]

The cost of having the dealer read and reset error codes means having your own reader is a bit of a no brainer I think, considering the way they have dropped in price.

great thing about the scangauge is for a few extra quid over a basic reader you get load more functions, but those smartphone based readers like daveyonthemove has look the dogs danglies though.

[Daveyonthemove]

They are a very cost effective tool to have.

Dealers will charge half hour labour (if your lucky) to diagnose a fault. If you can get a scantool for less than £30, then it will pay for itself quickly, and if you know someone willing to buy you a pint to clear a code, everyone is happy.

[Hoovie]

Well, found the Scangauge location is in a perfect position very easy to access the buttons and have found and used options I didn't even know I had even after 3 or 4 years of having the Scangauge

Next step will be to make the wiring nice and tidy

[Hoovie]

With the scangauge, do you have to manually enter he PID's you want it to read and display, or does it know automatically?

The reason I ask, is my Android is running an app called 'Torque' to monitor live data and clear fault codes, but it won't register the fuel gauge, so if you have a specific PID for that value, I would be grateful if you could share it?

Hi Davey,

Ref Fuel PID - sorry, first time been able to use my PC to read this forum for days and read the posts properly

The Scangauge does not read the fuel gauge either - The way the fuel part works is configure the Scangauge with the basic parameters such as engine size, fuel type and fuel tank size, then carry out a two-part calibration which will tune the fuel consumption the gauge gets reported with the actual fuel used (shame can't do that with the on-board computer), and then it reports on the calibrated data thereafter - and on each fillup, you tell the gauge you have filled up and tell it how much you put in - It first tells you how much it thinks and it is usually a matter of just upping or lowering a couple of tenths of a litre for on-going fine tuning.

And if you don't fill up but tend to part-fill, then it does become a matter of adding all the fills together to put in the total volume.

[Scorpion-gb]

David, can you tell me where the socket would be on my 4.2 to plug a Scangauge into, please?

Thanks.

[Hoovie]

David, can you tell me where the socket would be on my 4.2 to plug a Scangauge into, please?

Thanks.

can't remember for sure, but they tend to be to the bottom right of the dash and are fairly obvious. On my RAV4.3 it ius just by the bonnet release and looking at the pic of Daveys Auris (below), that looks just the same (the big dongle thing is plugged into the connector)

So I would start looking there :)

Look for a connector that visually resembles a TV SCART connector socket.

[Scorpion-gb]

David, can you tell me where the socket would be on my 4.2 to plug a Scangauge into, please? Thanks.

can't remember for sure, but they tend to be to the bottom right of the dash and are fairly obvious. On my RAV4.3 it ius just by the bonnet release and looking at the pic of Daveys Auris (below), that looks just the same (the big dongle thing is plugged into the connector) So I would start looking there :) Look for a connector that visually resembles a TV SCART connector socket.

Cheers, I though it may be around that area. it was a lot harder to find on my wifes Galaxy, it was behind the ashtray!

[local hero]

Just a word of warning, anyone with an early (square foglight) 4.2 will NOT be able to fit a Scangauge as there is NO usable OBD port...Stew

[Hoovie]

Just a word of warning, anyone with an early (square foglight) 4.2 will NOT be able to fit a Scangauge as there is NO usable OBD port...Stew

I am more then happy to be corrected on this one (as if I am wrong I have already imparted bad advice and good to know sooner rather then later ... :( ) .... But .....

Was not the Petrol RAV4.2 fitted with the ODB from its launch? and the Diesel followed in 2004 or 2005?

[Scorpion-gb]

Just a word of warning, anyone with an early (square foglight) 4.2 will NOT be able to fit a Scangauge as there is NO usable OBD port...Stew

Phew, lucky mines a 4.25!

[Daveyonthemove]

With the scangauge, do you have to manually enter he PID's you want it to read and display, or does it know automatically?

The reason I ask, is my Android is running an app called 'Torque' to monitor live data and clear fault codes, but it won't register the fuel gauge, so if you have a specific PID for that value, I would be grateful if you could share it?

Hi Davey,

Ref Fuel PID - sorry, first time been able to use my PC to read this forum for days and read the posts properly

The Scangauge does not read the fuel gauge either - The way the fuel part works is configure the Scangauge with the basic parameters such as engine size, fuel type and fuel tank size, then carry out a two-part calibration which will tune the fuel consumption the gauge gets reported with the actual fuel used (shame can't do that with the on-board computer), and then it reports on the calibrated data thereafter - and on each fillup, you tell the gauge you have filled up and tell it how much you put in - It first tells you how much it thinks and it is usually a matter of just upping or lowering a couple of tenths of a litre for on-going fine tuning.

And if you don't fill up but tend to part-fill, then it does become a matter of adding all the fills together to put in the total volume.

Thanks for the reply.

Mine works a bit differently, and with the right PID codes it should read the info the ECU sends/receives from sensors, but getting the codes is the hard part.

Most of the other functions work straight out of the box, and its not really needed on mine, but its nice to get it working if i can.

Cheers for replying to the other post regards the OBD location, I was unable to get online until tonight so you did me a favour :)