Post 06 2L D4D Or 2.2?

[daood]

Hi guys,

I'm now looking at avensis's as they are much bigger.

So basically are the 2.2 as bad as alot of people say? Some people say the head gaskets can go and this affects atleast 1 in 20 cars. So I know if you search for the 2.2's there is alot of bashing going on but then forums are usually about fixing problems. Alot of people say they arent great on fuel either.

Reliabitly, good mpg and cheapness to buy are important to me. 2.2s are generally cheaper to buy.

How much would it be to replace a 2.2. headgasket.

So should I just get a cheaper low mileage pre 06 2l diesel, a 2.2 diesel or a post 06 diesel with higher miles?

All help is always appricated.

Thanks

[alan333]

Personally I wouldn't buy a 2.2 at all as I would spend all my time driving it with one eye on the temp gauge and the other eye under the bonnet checking the oil and coolant levels for and sign of head gasket failure.

The 2.0 seems a fair bit better but still not infallible.

What mileage are you doing? The petrols are pretty bulletproof and give pretty good mpg. Driving a 1.8 vvti will give you towards 50 mpg if you drive nice.

[daood]

Personally I wouldn't buy a 2.2 at all as I would spend all my time driving it with one eye on the temp gauge and the other eye under the bonnet checking the oil and coolant levels for and sign of head gasket failure.

The 2.0 seems a fair bit better but still not infallible.

What mileage are you doing? The petrols are pretty bulletproof and give pretty good mpg. Driving a 1.8 vvti will give you towards 50 mpg if you drive nice.

Are you sure? The computer might be lying. My old 1.4 arosa would give me 45mpg driving like a granny.

I think a 2l would be better then.

Thanks

[alan333]

I've had two T25 1.8 vvti's, a manual and an auto.

Driving the manual like a granny I could get over 50 mpg, but my average was mid 40's. Driving on a motorway at 70-80mph returned mid to high 30's.

I can get 41mpg at the most from the auto, with my average being mid to high 30's. Motorway driving is similar to the manual.

The fuel computer on the manual was spot on, but the one on the auto reads around 5% high. The figures I quote are "real", ie worked out the old fashioned way by gallons used per miles travelled.

As a side note a work colleague has a 1.5 Yaris and he can't get his mpg above 45 either.

Also, the first one I owned for 26k miles and two and a half years with standard oil services and absolutely nothing else. Not even a tyre or a brake pad. Oh, sorry, I had to fit a rear wiper rubber and a tail light bulb once. The tappets were noisy and the front tyres low on tread by the time I sold it at 80k tho. When you hear some of the horror stories about maintaining the diesels I figure it's worth spending a couple of hundred quid more each year on the fuel and road tax running costs of the petrol, rather than the potential expensive repairs on the diesels.

Hope this helps.