My Arch Enemy Returns...

[anchorman]

I agree with you James, they do call it a resonator but as far as I know that top one has the job of smoothing out the inlet stroke pulses and reducing noise - it doesn't exist on our diesels. Although they describe that white (opaque) one as a resonator I can't see how it works as one there??? It is in the bottom of the loop and clear so you can see when there is any water in it. I wonder if it self empties by drawing moisture off it?

[Hoovie]

Not had a chance to look for this on my RAV4 yet, but after some more drying out, the Air Filter feels nearly dry, but in that drying process has reduced in weight by at least 275g (only weighed it after an intial dryout with a hot air gun) which must relate to 275ml+ of water by my reckoning, which seems a hell of a lot of water to get ingested that far up the intake !! That water bottle must be full!

I wonder if the term "Resonator" is a mistranslation of "Reservoir" on that? For example, my colleagues in India constantly use the term "Revert" when they mean 'Reply' (as we would understand it, and definitely NOT meaning Revert as used in Western English)

[anchorman]

I used to have translation problems with Izusu when I was visiting them. No matter which country I've been in there is one word that works - beer.

I looked at a current model this morning and you can clearly see the bottle if you lift the bonnet and look down by the Battery. I think you could get at the bottom if you take off the corner bits of the wheel arch/sump liner. However, unless you take the bumper off I don't think you can empty it. Getting the bumper off is no problem.

[Hoovie]

Just had another look and I really cannot see any bottle! Felt all the way underneath the air intake from inlet to air box and no pipe or connector anywhere. Really is most puzzling!

[anchorman]

Look inside the engine bay as if you are trying to see the back of the passenger side fog lamp..........

[Big Kev]

Is there any way that this "mystery bottle" could be a vapour / condensation trap for pretty constant air conditioning use, possibly more relevant to warmer, dryer climes than ours is yet again proving to be ?

As usual, I prepare to be shot doon in flames....

Witheld....

[anchorman]

No.

[Big Kev]

No.

Sir.....please get to the point....I don't have time to read everything you know......

lol

[Guest]

Thought I would have a look, thats a pretty big bottle for nothing much, couldnt reach the bottom of it, as my shoulders are too fat I presume.

Gus

[Uncle_P]

As a side note, if you do happen to ingest a load of water into your engine and get stuck at the roadside, what can you do? There's a pretty good chance that you've bent the inner workings of the engine, but not necessarily. Take the spark plugs out and spin the engine over on the starter motor in short bursts. The water gets spat out through the plugs holes with quite a lot of force, so stand back. Quick squirt of WD40 and pop the plugs back in. Now try starting the engine and be prepared for gallons of water to come pouring out of the exhaust if the the car was properly imersed. When this happened to me, the only casualty was the o2 sensor, which got clogged with cr*p and had to be replaced. The air filter was sodden, so I stretched a woolly glove over the air intake for the rest of that day's off roading and drove about with water sloshing about in the footwells... ahhhh.. happy days.

[anchorman]

I've recovered engines in that way many times over the years but it's a bit more complicated with Hoovie's diesel and the implications of something getting bent just don't bear thinking about.

[acetip]

I've recovered engines in that way many times over the years but it's a bit more complicated with Hoovie's diesel and the implications of something getting bent just don't bear thinking about.

With the higher compression ratios of diesels compared to petrol engines then the chances of damage like bent conrods is going to far higher if any water gets into the cylinders.

where i served my apprenticeship ( Many years ago ) on diesel engine for the then Minestry of Transport we had many sent to us with damage through water getting in engines. You would not beleave that people would still keep there foot down when this happens and not only conrods come out through the crankcase but parts of the crankshaft,but then the drivers not going to have to pay for it.

My forman then, kept a few damaged parts in what he called his museum.

to see lumps of melted piston about the size of golf ball that had been recoverd from a sump. also a con rod that the small end had passed through the big end that the cap was still bolted to it..

the driver had still kept going even though the engine noises must been out of this world.

But then these were miltary vehicle engines and the driver could have been on a hasty retreat from someone.

[BobbyPosh]

I went through a puddle like that in my Avensis and ended up minus one alternator. I will go a lot slower next time.

[anchorman]

I watched an Audi TT go through a massive flood that surged over the bonnet on the news last night. I expected it to stop but it seemed to keep going although they cut the clip before it had got right through. Must have U-boat bits on them!!!

[Gods_gift]

There was an Audi A4 that warned its driver of an Air Raid over west London so that may prove your theory about uboat bits

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/05/25/air_raid_warning/

Back on topic anyone ever discover what this big bottle is for?

[Uncle_P]

The car that I drowned was a Jeep Cherokee.. the big 4 litre petrol engine was pretty much indestructable. It was still running sweet after several dunkings and 200,000 miles. I really miss that ol' truck