T180 - If Things Can't Get Any Worse...... Exhaust £1100

[SMH13]

Hello

I feel like crying !

Happily going about my business today when suddenly a lot of smoke and then a noise like dragging metal !

Pulled in to a local garage to find that my exhaust system is broken in two !!

Arghhhhhh

I have been quoted £1100 from Toyota or £700 plus VAT for the back half (including the catalytic converter). Please does anyone know a cheaper method ???

As well as this I am currently looking in to engine problems via Toyota ! I give up

[CharlieFarlie]

Did it rust through on the large middle box ?

[The Striding Man]

Exhaust failure and hefty replacement bills from Mr T seems to be a common problem with our RAV's.

My exhaust gave up the ghost just before Christmas and the cost to replace it effectively put it off the road. Luckily, I have access to another car and have the luxury of a bit of time to get the cash together for a replacement.

I'm going down the custom stainless route for a replacement. It's maybe worth looking at if you don't require the use of your car immediately. Sorry to hear about the problems with your car, it's something we can all do without these days.

[Hiluxgirl]

Hey, saw your post about exhaust and felt your pain. Just had my back box and tailpipe replaced on my hilux but I used an online part finder as I knew it was going to be a costly replacement. Got it for £75 + vat and delivery and got my mechanic to fit. But I got a really good quote from national exhaust centre. Less than £200 supplied and fitted. It's worth it scouring the net and ringing round getting prices from exhaust centres. Good luck!

[blue monster]

£1100!! seriously?? You could have a stainless steel one made for less than that and it would have a lifetime guarantee!!

If our exhaust goes I won't be replacing it with a genuine one at that price

As Hiluxgirl has said, shop around - Google is your friend

[blue monster]

check out this on eBay - http://www.ebay.co.u...=item27be932b93

Or this place who are specialists:

http://www.mijexhaust.com/toyota-exhaust-system-stainless-steel-exhaust.html

[SMH13]

Did it rust through on the large middle box ?

Hi, Mechanic said the it had worn through at the welding, he said its thinest part ?

[SMH13]

Exhaust failure and hefty replacement bills from Mr T seems to be a common problem with our RAV's.

My exhaust gave up the ghost just before Christmas and the cost to replace it effectively put it off the road. Luckily, I have access to another car and have the luxury of a bit of time to get the cash together for a replacement.

I'm going down the custom stainless route for a replacement. It's maybe worth looking at if you don't require the use of your car immediately. Sorry to hear about the problems with your car, it's something we can all do without these days.

Thank you, now I have calmed down I will have a look in to that .

[SMH13]

Hey, saw your post about exhaust and felt your pain. Just had my back box and tailpipe replaced on my hilux but I used an online part finder as I knew it was going to be a costly replacement. Got it for £75 + vat and delivery and got my mechanic to fit. But I got a really good quote from national exhaust centre. Less than £200 supplied and fitted. It's worth it scouring the net and ringing round getting prices from exhaust centres. Good luck!

Hi, That's helpful...will start shopping round.

[SMH13]

check out this on ebay - http://www.ebay.co.u...=item27be932b93

Or this place who are specialists:

http://www.mijexhaus...el-exhaust.html

Someone correct me if I'm wrong , but isn't the T180 a complete exhaust, well that's what Toyota say ! I can only buy it with the Cat attached ? Also, does anyone know if I got one made and fitted, would anything show on diagnostic reports ? You have made me feel better - Thanks

[anchorman]

One of these good stainless places will join to the existing pipe by cutting into it. They can add cats if needed and none of it will effect the emmissions performance. It won't be cheap Stella but it might save you a good lump of money.

[blue monster]

As Don has ststed, anything is possible if you end up having an exhaust made. The oem exhaust on my honda was a completr unit but I now have a 3 piece stainless one.

Let us know how you get on

[Stephen B]

Hello

I feel like crying !

Happily going about my business today when suddenly a lot of smoke and then a noise like dragging metal !

Pulled in to a local garage to find that my exhaust system is broken in two !!

Arghhhhhh

I have been quoted £1100 from Toyota or £700 plus VAT for the back half (including the catalytic converter). Please does anyone know a cheaper method ???

As well as this I am currently looking in to engine problems via Toyota ! I give up

Try a motor factor to see if they can supply a aftermarket one

[Tech01]

Stainless exhausts... Beware the thin and tinny variety (used to be characterised by a mirror-shiny outside finish to the boxes), which have been sold by a variety of outfits in the industry. Many of these systems sounded unpleasant, and, on some vehicles, could actually shriek under hard acceleration (the downpipes after the manifold were often the problem). Some of these cheaper systems also used one grade of s/s for the pipework, and others for boxes, flanges and supports, causing less-than-ideal welding issues.

Some other companies, however, chose to work in a superior grade of s/s, sometimes described IIRC as "austenitic". Its appearance was yellowish, and not shiny, and the gauge of metal heavier.

The very best s/s systems used to come from PD Gough & Associates (Nottingham), who are still in business - and on the net. Gough manufactured in the high-grade steel, and used the same grade of stainless for the entire system. Their systems were renowned for appearance and quietness, and were modelled exactly on original systems, which were used as patterns. The problem of noisy downpipes (the ones straight after the manifold) was addressed, where it arose, by "double skinning" the pipes - i.e. using one tube inside another.

I had several Gough systems (Rover P6 2000TC and 3500V8S, and a Dolomite 1850). I was their first customer for the Dolomite item, and had to wait a week while they bought in a new Unipart exhaust system, and copied it in stainless!

If still there, Gough's will be worth a look. Their philosophy used to be "If we haven't made one already, then we'll do it now". From then on it was "off the shelf".

Chris

[Parts-King]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong , but isn't the T180 a complete exhaust,

It is in two sections, the cat and a tailpie, Kingo

[SMH13]

Stainless exhausts... Beware the thin and tinny variety (used to be characterised by a mirror-shiny outside finish top the boxes), which have been sold by a variety of outfits in the industry. Many of these systems sounded unpleasant, and, on some vehicles, could actually shriek under hard acceleration (the downpipes after the manifold were often the problem). Some of these cheaper systems also used one grade of s/s for the pipework, and others for boxes, flanges and supports, causing less-than-ideal welding issues.

Some other companies, however, chose to work in a superior grade of s/s, sometimes described IIRC as "austenitic". Its appearance was yellowish, and not shiny, and the gauge of metal heavier.

The very best s/s systems used to come from PD Gough & Associates (Nottingham), who are still in business - and on the net. Gough manufactured in the high-grade steel, and used the same grade of stainless for the entire system. Their systems were renowned for appearance and quietness, and were modelled exactly on original systems, which were used as patterns. The problem of noisy downpipes (the ones straight after the manifold) was addressed, where it arose, by "double skinning" the pipes - i.e. using one tube inside another.

I had several Gough systems (Rover P6 2000TC and 3500V8S, and a Dolomite 1850). I was their first customer for the Dolomite item, and had to wait a week while their bought in a new Unipart exhaust system, and copied it in stainless!

If still there, Gough's will be worth a look. Their philosophy used to be "If we haven't made one already, then we'll do it now". From then on it was "off the shelf".

Chris

What fantastic information - I am on with the task now , Thank you

[SMH13]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong , but isn't the T180 a complete exhaust,

It is in two sections, the cat and a tailpie, Kingo

Ahhh I understand - Thank you

[SMH13]

Hello

I feel like crying !

Happily going about my business today when suddenly a lot of smoke and then a noise like dragging metal !

Pulled in to a local garage to find that my exhaust system is broken in two !!

Arghhhhhh

I have been quoted £1100 from Toyota or £700 plus VAT for the back half (including the catalytic converter). Please does anyone know a cheaper method ???

As well as this I am currently looking in to engine problems via Toyota ! I give up

Try a motor factor to see if they can supply a aftermarket one

Great , Thanks

[SMH13]

One of these good stainless places will join to the existing pipe by cutting into it. They can add cats if needed and none of it will effect the emmissions performance. It won't be cheap Stella but it might save you a good lump of money.

This is the way to go, hoping to take it in tomorrow , Thanks

[SMH13]

As Don has ststed, anything is possible if you end up having an exhaust made. The oem exhaust on my honda was a completr unit but I now have a 3 piece stainless one.

Let us know how you get on

Will do, I have decided to go down the stainless steel route - Thank you

[blue monster]

Out of curiousity, has no one else with a RAV4 T180 had their exhaust to go or find an alternative other than stainless steel?

[Davrav]

Out of curiousity, has no one else with a RAV4 T180 had their exhaust to go or find an alternative other than stainless steel?

Charlie's fell apart over the Christmas period........................

[blue monster]

Is there something special about the T180 exhaust or is the cost the same for an exhaust on any 2.2 diesel RAV4?

[CharlieFarlie]

The T180 has one additional sensor of some kind in the front section.. So the exhaust shown on the eBay ad may not fit or I should say it will fit but it will display the VSC warning on the dash

It was Andy (SCHM) that picked up on the T180 having additional sensor as part of the Dcat system and this was confirmed by Toyota.. The 2.2 and the 2.2 Dcat exhausts have different part numbers Again credit goes to Andy for spotting that !

At this time there are absolutely NO aftermarket exhausts made for the 4.3 2.2 Diesel cars.. Bosal list them but when phones said production has not commenced ..

So this means the only current option is a stainless system or Toyota only for the parts.. Front section ONLY which contains the oxidisation cat and the huge middle box is close to 1100 quid and that does NOT include the rear pipe and box..

We are now living in an age where as far as I'm concerned anyone thinking of buying cars with these !Removed! expensive exhausts would be well advised to get the car checked over professionally and ideally on a ramp before buying a car .

My exhaust lasted 6+ years and 67K miles which is reasonable.....

Lastly I would not buy a used exhaust for any of my cars.. They could simply be as bad or nearing the end of their useful life...

[blue monster]

I checked with a local exhaust supplier and they can get the rear pipe & box for around £150 and they told me that the massive middle part was main stealer only.

Only suggested the used exhaust to give the OP the option of a cheap fix for now but like Charlie has stated it may not be the right one anyway.

There was me thinking the run flat system was the only hold Toyota had on us