Auris D4D 2L 120K Mileage Annoying Start Problem 2007

[2plus2]

Hi guys, i need some help to establish what problem my auris has encountered.

Some background info my auris has difficulty starting and i have recently changed the glow plugs, Battery also have put the correct amount of engine oil in. Also the fuel i have put in is correct.

Okay so whenever i try start my in the morning it has difficulty's starting. This problem was their a couple of weeks back but i continued to ignore it now the problem has gone so out of place whenever i try starting the car it wont start. i have to get assistant from a jump start and a portable jump starter box ( so 2 power sources) then continue the same method of turning the key and pressing the clutch it eventually starts.

I personally dont think the Battery is problem as i can still listen to the radio and put the beam lights on etc. But after a few cranks (6 or 7) the Battery fades away then i would need jump starting at (10 or 11) cranks the car starts up.

Also as soon the car is started i have to avoid clonking off as if i do i will need to repeat the whole method again. But once the engine is warm as shown on the dashboard i can switch the car off and go shops etc and come back and no problem it will start. but leaving the car overnight or just leaving the car somewere for 3hour or more once the reading of engine is gone cold the car has problem to start

Someone help me with this problem it's really annoying i cannot go work anymore as i do night shifts and bus/trains dont operate cheers

Cliff.

-Car wont start

-battery is not the problem

-But would need jump starting after several cranks

-once the engine is warm it seems fine

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[2plus2]

Also i have read many topics about the d4d having the same problem as mines. But they seem to have different answer.

so could someone point out the problem

[FROSTYBALLS]

Hello Zyzz - welcome to Toyota Owners Club.

Are you fully depressing the clutch when starting?

[2plus2]

hey frosty, i can assure you im doing everything correctly as in pressing the clutch right in.

another note my sister has the same car, same model etc and her car is fine iv actually starter her car up and it feels so much better just one full press in the clutch and turn the key boom started.

my auris is falling apart.

[Heidfirst]

has hers done the same mileage?

Any strange noises on yours? Could possibly be injectors or DMF going?

[2plus2]

well hers is sitting at 100k mileage so pretty much the same thing.

No strange noises apart from the Battery when it dies out after loads of cranks.

appreciate the help so far keep it up guys, need the car fixed

& i dont know if this will help but the fuel meter in the car also gives the wrong reading but that i dont care about the main issue is me starting the car and travel from a to b

[Devon Aygo]

Sounds like you possibly have a faulty suction control valve or injectors, Toyota have a service bulletin regarding this EG-0132T-1110-EN 1AD/2AD Cold starting issues, " Customer may report difficulty staring and car stalls whilst starting" there is a specific set of tests to confirm the fault.

The tests require the car to be cranked over whilst monitoring the fuel pressure on the common rail, if there are pressure fluctuations greater than 5mbar then a new SCV is required along with an updated software programme for the engine ECU

If the fluctuations are less than 5mbar then the ECU is to be reprogrammed and the car retested, if the fault is gone then that's it, if the fault persists and fuel pressure during cranking is now greater than 10mbar ( the reprogramming increases starting fuel pressure ) the injectors are faulty ( if early step one injectors are fitted a new set will be required if step two type are fitted just the individual faulty injector is needed ) if the pressure is less than 10mbar than fit a new fuel filter.

[2plus2]

wow thanks m8 :D

The car is going for repair in the garage if the car is not fixed will show him this thread

thanks

[Cuba Libre]

Look at my experience: http://www.toyotaownersclub.com/forums/topic/142960-starting-problems-20-d4d/#entry1253578

[rufnek2kx]

Sounds like you possibly have a faulty suction control valve or injectors, Toyota have a service bulletin regarding this EG-0132T-1110-EN 1AD/2AD Cold starting issues, " Customer may report difficulty staring and car stalls whilst starting" there is a specific set of tests to confirm the fault.

The tests require the car to be cranked over whilst monitoring the fuel pressure on the common rail, if there are pressure fluctuations greater than 5mbar then a new SCV is required along with an updated software programme for the engine ECU

If the fluctuations are less than 5mbar then the ECU is to be reprogrammed and the car retested, if the fault is gone then that's it, if the fault persists and fuel pressure during cranking is now greater than 10mbar ( the reprogramming increases starting fuel pressure ) the injectors are faulty ( if early step one injectors are fitted a new set will be required if step two type are fitted just the individual faulty injector is needed ) if the pressure is less than 10mbar than fit a new fuel filter.

May be a stupid question but do Toyota do this check pro bono or is there a fee for it?

[Devon Aygo]

Sounds like you possibly have a faulty suction control valve or injectors, Toyota have a service bulletin regarding this EG-0132T-1110-EN 1AD/2AD Cold starting issues, " Customer may report difficulty staring and car stalls whilst starting" there is a specific set of tests to confirm the fault.

The tests require the car to be cranked over whilst monitoring the fuel pressure on the common rail, if there are pressure fluctuations greater than 5mbar then a new SCV is required along with an updated software programme for the engine ECU

If the fluctuations are less than 5mbar then the ECU is to be reprogrammed and the car retested, if the fault is gone then that's it, if the fault persists and fuel pressure during cranking is now greater than 10mbar ( the reprogramming increases starting fuel pressure ) the injectors are faulty ( if early step one injectors are fitted a new set will be required if step two type are fitted just the individual faulty injector is needed ) if the pressure is less than 10mbar than fit a new fuel filter.

May be a stupid question but do Toyota do this check pro bono or is there a fee for it?

In warranty this would be free, outside of warranty not so I'm afraid.

[cmia]

Can I add some thing to this very quickly a month too late!

The 1CD-FTV which is the older abensis and corolla D4D engine also had alot of recalls with SCV problems. These control went "faulty" and Toyota have probably replaced millions worldwide.

The 1CD=FTV engine came with 2 SCVs a red and a green one, both were tied together into the common rail system and worked together to pressurise the fuel rail.

If enough pressure is not being built the car will not start.

1AD/2AD fuel pump only has one, to diagnoise a faulty SCV you need live data monitoring code reader and look at the pressure of the common rail fuel system and see if it is fluctuating or to manufactures spec.

Please look at the picture below.

THe Control valve is at the top left hand side, its the long shiny object.

To start your car without cranking the life out you need the following tools.

1 - Hammer - a small headed one, a light one.

Turn the ignition on and leave it on.

open the bonnet and find the control valve, TAP it GENTLY with the hammer, walk back around and attempt to start.

after afew time of doing this the car will start, having two people can help ;)

Now the older SCV could be removed and cleaned and would function fine but the newer ones are a sealed unit, DENSO will not give you a replacement part it is a dealer only part.

You can remove the control valve it is normally held on with two small allen key nuts, once the nuts are out it will pop out without using major force. BECAREFUL do not cross thread your fuel pump when reinserting the control vavle.

To slean you need brake fluid cleaner / carb cleaner or IPA contact cleaner, soak the valve, and shake, soak, blow into it or use compressed air, shake andsoak. if you have an ultra sonic cleaner or know someone who has access to one now is the time to use it!

Please replace your fuel filter and stop using cheap diesel.