Prius Plug In

[MEP's Yaris GS]

Time will indeed tell, but from what I could work out. That was 60mpg with plugging it in every 5 min by the sounds of it. I'm averaging 80mpg average with normally only one charge a day and a 50mile round trip.

With PHEVs they seem to be very personal in as far as one will suit certain situations better than others. My PiP would still be choice over an outlander for the sort of journeys I currently do, but if in city use and no more than 30 miles a day then the outlander would probably be better.

Having done 7k in 3 months, as you can tell a lot of my journeys are longish, and 25% decrease in MPG is massive with that sort of mileage.

Like you say though, if the gen 4 plug has a far better range, of about 25-40miles then it's going to be a winner, but if kept the same as the current PiP it'll quickly fall behind, mainly because I'm a strong believer that others will just go by what they see on paper when buying, and not real world use.

[Sagitar]

For the journeys that I do, I wouldn't want to swap to the Mitsubishi.

I do only about 4,000 miles per year and you can see my "all miles" average in my Fuelly data.

Individual "tank" mileages vary a good deal depending upon the nature of the journeys done, but every comparison that I have seen indicate that the PiP is much more efficient than the Mitsubishi when running as a normal hybrid or when running only on the ICE.

For interest; I have done 256 miles since I last filled the tank; the gauge has not yet moved from the top stop and my petrol consumption for the tank is showing as 224 m.p.g. I appreciate that it is a bit meaningless to use figures for a single tank, but that is what the figures being bandied about for the Mitsubishi seem to be based upon.

[JSHarris]

I bought my PiP about 12 weeks ago. It had about half a tank of fuel when I bought it, and I've filled it up twice in the 12 weeks I've owned it. My daily commute is 16 miles each way (with charging at each end), with occasional 150 mile round trips (with charging at one end only). The tank is currently showing four bars. with around 900 miles travelled since I last filled up.

The first (measured) tank of fuel showed that I was getting around 144 mpg. Currently the second tank is showing that I'm around the 150 mpg mark, but I've only done around 900 miles on this tank full so far, and it looks like I should get at least another 400 to 500 miles before I need to fill up again.

The Outlander looks good on paper, but would it actually do better than the PiP for my usage pattern? Somehow I doubt it, as it would use more electrical energy (because it has a higher Cd and weight than the PiP) and it has poorer hybrid performance.

As always, it's a matter of "horses for courses" when choosing any car, and for me the PiP is just about ideal in terms over overall economy, size etc. Someone with a different commuting pattern may well find that the Outlander is a better bet, though, although overall it would be less efficient because of the higher weight and Cd.