Thinking Of Changing My 2012 Auris For A 2015

[Jag XFS]

Hi all my Auris 1.4D is 3 years old at the end of March its done about 16k miles and it a good little car I was thinking of trading it in on a new Auris 1.3 petrol as my current Auris is only used for local journeys and I am a little worried about the EGR valve and

DPF any advice on this I haven't had any warning lights or anything it maybe due to the fact that I drive fairly briskly

if you were in my shoes would you keep the 1.4D or would you opt for the 1.3 petrol . what sort of mpg could I expect from a 1.3 petrol in the real world my Auris turns in an average 55mpg I have had 58 mpg when we went to Devon when we first got it

your thoughts would be appreciated . I do hope that I have posted this in the right place

[FROSTYBALLS]

Yes - in the right place.

Honest John Real mpg figures for the 1st generation 1.4D4D are between 48-60mpg - http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/realmpg/toyota/auris-2007/14-d-4d

For the current 1.33 the Real mpg figures are between 43 and 53mpg - http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/realmpg/toyota/auris-2013/133-vvt-i

The current 1.33 is approx 65kg lighter than the previous 1.4D4D, so that will help narrow the economy gap a bit. The one thing you will miss is the low end torque of the diesel.

I've had two Auris 1.33's (2009 and 2012 models). My daily each way commute of 6.5 miles in heavy stop/start city traffic used to provide around 35-37mpg - taking anywhere from 35 to 60 minutes depending on volume of traffic. My previous Corolla 1.4 provided around 32-33 for the same journey.

The best I've had is 48mpg - two passengers, back seats folded, full load of luggage, A/B roads, mountains, motorways (speeds of 60-85), over a 520 mile journey. These are brim-to-brim figures rather than just using the car's read outs.

[Cyker]

TBH I don't think it's worth the change; It'll cost you a chunk of money with little to no benefit (Plus personally I think the newer shape Auris is ooogleh :P )

The 1.4D4D isn't as prone to problems as the bigger D4D's, esp. in heavier cars like the Auris, as you need to give it a bit more welly so it tends to run a bit hotter which stops it sooting up as much.

If you really want to switch and aren't that worried about the economics of it, then given you mostly do local journeys it might be worth saving up a bit more and getting a HSD Auris!

[Heidfirst]

So, you have a 2012 Auris? In that case it will have a standard UK warranty for 5 years/100,000 miles i.e. you are covered for the next 2 years (& of course could extend thereafter for a fee) as long as you maintain it according to Toyota's recommended schedule. Given your very low mileage I would lean towards keeping it but if you are worried about the egr etc. perhaps make sure that you give it the odd thrash & possibly consider switching to premium fuel.

[Jag XFS]

Thanks Guys I do tend to put my foot down when the chance arises and I only put BP or Shell fuel in so maybe I haven't got anything to worry about I also like the look of the old shape over the new

[Heidfirst]

by premium fuel I meant the likes of Shell V-power Nitro+ rather than Fuelsave.

[Miseryguts]

If you don't like low cars you will not like the new Auris as it is a fair bit lower than your model.

Nice car if you are flexible, but if you are over 6ft and have a spine full of arthritis you end up with a sore head from keep bashing it on the door frame.

[redadair]

I have a 2014 Auris Hybrid Icon+ and regularly get 62-68 MPG (on board computer) during the normal weather, the MPG drops a bit in the winter.

I'm 6'2" and not slim and I can fit in the car fine, I have no problems entering or exiting the vehicle. Admittedly I don't have any back problems and some adults would struggle to sit behind me whilst I drive.

However, I think the initial cost of the hybrid may put you off, but petrol is cheaper than diesel :) Cheers, Red!

PS I have not intention of inciting a petrol / diesel fuel price debate, I was only making a light comparison :)

[Jag XFS]

Hi All thanks for your input I have decided that I am going to keep my Auris and pimp my ride a little by upgrading the audio system I've already ordered a new Sony head unit :D

[TomdeGuerre]

I think you're doing the right thing staying with your present model as it had a number of improvements eg the side indicator repeaters incorporated into the door mirrors and does it have the steering wheel with the flat incorporated in the bottom? That's a feature I wish mine had. The new Auris is an improvement in many areas but it seems a lot flimsier. When I wash mine I find the front and rear bumper panels are quite flimsy and of course there's the wind buffeting noises reported by quite a few testers.

One of the reasons I buy the Auris is because of the rear seat width. At just over 50 inches wide it blows the Focus and the Astra out of the water. I looked at the RAV 4 but, in spite of being a much larger vehicle, the rear seat is (from memory) somewhere between 2 and 3 inches narrower. I've never understood why Toyota didn't develop a cross-over Auris from the Mk1, I know I would have bought one. They already had the high roofline and a whole range of proven petrol and diesel engines, maybe even a hybrid version.

Just look at what Nissan did with the Almera, they turned it into the Qashqai and it became a market leader. For what it's worth I think Toyota dropped the ball with the Urban Cruiser too (flogged under the Scion name in the US). By comparison look at what Kia did with the Soul, it took a trick and they just released a new version this year which is selling very well.

[Converted]

The cheapest car is the one you already own.

I'm new to Toyota but would I be right in assuming the 1.4 diesel we are talking about is Euro V ? If so then you should be OK, in my experience it was Euro IV diesels that had problems with regeneration though all diesels since Euro III can clog the EGR.

Stick some Millers in the tank every second tank full. I ran a Euro III Volvo S60 D5, after 9 years it still didn't register on the MOT test and the EGR was clean, I used to take it off to check it every couple of years.

I'm surprised to read the comments on here about the height of the new Auris. My wife has back problems which is why her previous car was a Citroën Grand C4 Picasso. I short listed a group of cars for her to test (SEAT Leon estate, Honda Civic wagon and Auris Toruing Sport). The Toyota was the only one which did not twinge her back. Result, Toyota Auris TS Hybrid on order for delivery beginning February 2015. Can't wait. We did consider the 2.0 diesel available in our market but the Hybrid won out in taxes.

[Miseryguts]

Is your wife 6ft 1inch with arthritis in the neck and spine?

Once I am in the car it is comfortable,its the GETTING in and out especially in the garage which is the problem.

So long as your wife is happy,you cannot ask for more,I bet you can't wait for Feb !!

[Converted]

No she's 5' 8" and has lower back problems.

Twisting at the hips and levering up out of low cars is what causes her problems, my Volvo S60 is a pain for her. Fantastic seats and fine while she is in but the car is just too low.

After the test drive of the Auris she said she didn't even think about her back it was all done at a natural level for her. Of course she had the seat and steering wheel at a level which made it all but impossible for me to get in without first making some adjustments but for the number of times I drive her car I can live with that.

Yep, Mrs Converted is very excited, it's her car, I just have the pleasure of paying for it - Happy wife, happy life. I have to admit to being surprised by the 0-62 figures of the Hybrid, the car did feel faster on the road.

[Berisford]

We found the Auris Tourer an appealing vehicle but the getting in and out, the low roof line intruding into the forward vision, together with the seats being seemingly too low/small/short, we had to walk away. The access, forward visibility and seats in the Yaris are much better.

However, if you find the new Auris fits the bill then nice, as I said, it's an appealing vehicle, especially in estate style.

(I couldn't live with those silly 17" wheels and rubber band tyres either.......)

[cbcdesign]

My 4 Year Prius Lease is over at the beginning of May next year so I am looking at the Auris as a replacement since the Gen 4 Prius isn't going to be out for another year. I think the slightly slower 0-60 time is a non issue. I never accelerate that hard anyway and never use the power mode either. Nor am I bothered about the 17" wheels and low profile tyres to be honest, I think my Prius has the same size and they are fine, I gather the ride in the Auris is nicer than the Prius anyway.

My biggest concern is the Audio Quality and the headlights in the Auris which some have said are poor. I am used to LED low beam lights in the Prius and they are stupendous, the stereos pretty good too.

[theoldbrit]

redadair - How many miles/months have passed from new to get this economy? I have the exact same car but 1 month old and 390 miles. Mpg 40 - 45.

What with continually squealing brakes and not exactly frugal fuel economy and at a cost of £20k I am beginning to feel a little despondent with my new Toyota! A technicians remark that "these cars don't need a running in period any more" doesn't exactly fill me with confidence that things will soon improve

I do however agree with you that there is absolutely no problem with entering or exiting the car, I find it easier than the last Auris I had and I am a blue Badge holder!

[RunningInPleasePass]

redadair - How many miles/months have passed from new to get this economy? I have the exact same car but 1 month old and 390 miles.

Mpg 40 - 45.

Your MPG looks a little low to me, I am getting nearly a calculated 60 MPG from my Auris Hybrid after 15 months and 30k miles of ownership.

[redadair]

redadair - How many miles/months have passed from new to get this economy? I have the exact same car but 1 month old and 390 miles. Mpg 40 - 45.

What with continually squealing brakes and not exactly frugal fuel economy and at a cost of £20k I am beginning to feel a little despondent with my new Toyota! A technicians remark that "these cars don't need a running in period any more" doesn't exactly fill me with confidence that things will soon improve

I do however agree with you that there is absolutely no problem with entering or exiting the car, I find it easier than the last Auris I had and I am a blue badge holder!

Hi old brit, I have to concur with Mr running please pass I am afraid. Something sounds up with your car... sorry to say

My car is 3 months old now, it has approx 1.5k miles on clock and gets approx 465miles range (on board computer) every refill. This gets less during the colder weather

I regularly used to get 62 - 69 mpg on a regular commute (mixed m-way and a roads and town) the lower end was when I wanted to test the power mode. However, this was during the extended milder autumn weather. ie expect slightly less mpg when colder weather arrives.

Re the brakes squealing I don't suffer from that but I do get noisy / dirty sounding breaks when stopping or reversing.....

Today from cold I got 55mpg going through Manchester city with lots of stop start and red lights etc

I have no problems with my mpg at all. Very pleased with it. Only problem I have is the wife not putitng in any fuel and she is the biggest user! May I am the biggest mug lol

I'm looking forward to testing the mpg on a Xmas run to Scotland fully loaded with family of 4 and boot full of presents!

Cheers! Red!

@CBCdesign, this is not the car for an audio enthusiast! There are not Speakers at the rear. However, I do agree with the lights comment! :)

@Berisford what do you mean "(I couldn't live with those silly 17" wheels and rubber band tyres either.......)" I am no 16s I think, and they look fine to me, not that I take that much notice

[Berisford]

For the pot-hole infested roads around here, 15" would be my choice, 16" might be OK, 17" WILL, sooner or later, be expensive.

[Converted]

The car we test drove was on 205/55x16 winter tyres. This is also the size the Edition model we have ordered comes on with standard tyres.

The ride was perfectly acceptable.

Incidentally, this the same size wheel and tyre setup I have on my Volvo S60 in winter which is noticeably smoother than the 235/40x18 summer wheel and tyre setup.