Scaring A Scamming Git

[ZeroBlade]

HSBC are being :censor:. Theyve declined to refund me saying that it's not fraud if I willingly paid for something that i've not recieved.

eBay suggest getting the police involved, then taking the case to a small claims court. Before I go this route would a little scare tactic prove useful?

I came up with this...

Dear Jon,

In regards to the aformentioned item:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/ebayISAPI.dll?Vie...item=7902578503

As I have still not received the item from yourselves I ask for a FULL refund of £490 that was paid by me.

If the refund is not honoured in due time I shall proceed on legal grounds to reclaim lost monies. The police have already been informed as has my solicitor and they suggested this as an intitial alternate course to court proceedings.

Yours Sincerely

(sign here)

(print name here)

I'm kinda lying in there, not contacted police or solicitor (yet!). Can lying here backfire on me l8r when i do go to court?

Cheers from a p'd off fella :ffs:

On the plus side I got a nice veliside kit off jaxx, thanks bud

and me border front, plus lexus rears from matt :D

-Z

[Boro Sera]

Have you contacted Citizens Advice and/or Trading Standards. Usually the mention of either of these can do wonders.

Your letter seems OK to me. It's direct, but polite and gives them the chance to make amends and draw a line under the situation.

Good Luck.......let us all know what develops.

Rich

[Demonic Angel]

I'm not up on the law or anything, but perhaps say that if you do not respond of refund me my monies within so-and-so number of days then I shall have no choice but to inform the police and my solicitor to start court proceedings...

At least that was you are telling him thats what you WILL do, without implying you have which may backfire on you.....

I hope you get your money back soon anyway - have eBay deleted his account on there? I noticed he comes up as a non-registered user.....

[Calisto]

tell him that if he does not give you the money within a resonable time limit then you will get solicitors and police envolved, but you must give him time to send the money back to you eg, within two weeks. I found this works for me. good luck , I know how this feels mate.

DA just beat me to the post with this.

[Moffmo]

yep - i think that should be ok as long as you give him a deadline

Although - i dont know the law :D

Cheers

Matt

[Neil Clark]

Got his address?

Neil

[cokg2]

Right mate, im in a similar position

April, i brought a V600 mobile phone from a ebayer. Phone never turned up, but i paid over £200 on paypal.

I have contacted paypal, and they cant refund the money as his account is empty.

Ok, so i contacted the police. They cannot assist as its not technically fraud. I paid for something, but according to some law, he is NOT in breatch of contract.

Ok, so i contacted the Trading Standards. They will not help as its a small value and im the only person.

Then i contacted the citizens advice bureau, again they reiterated the law to me, and said that they cannot do anything.

I have two options

1) Take him to a small claims court, which costs money. I have been warned that he can get out of it by quoting loads of law, which there is a loophole. So i could stand to be out of pocket by more 100's in legal costs

2) second option is to travel to Sunderland and give me a little tickle which my golf clubs and baseball bat that travels with me in the back of car. Problem here is that id end up in jail

Umm

If you want to talk about this mate, add me

Kierangray1982@hotmail.com

Ive got loads of info, so will help u

Cheers

[SMW]

Small claims is easy - I am currently doing it to a Lexus dealer.

Costs me £120 to set up but you can claim the cost back if you win.

All done on line and pretty easy - heres the link

https://www.moneyclaim.gov.uk/csmco/index.jsp

[Demonic Angel]

Surely eBay should provide protection for users so people cant do this to them after they have taken their money..... :ffs:

[cokg2]

yes eBay provide an insurance service, amx claim is £105, thats all u get back.

Basically eBay and paypal are con artists when it comes to fraud

[ZeroBlade]

nice 1. thanks for this.

I'll try your approach Angel & c what happens, can't really hurt can it?

Neil: This is an address, if its useful or not?

http://www.performance-parts-uk.com/Contact.htm#

cokg2: I was thinking of ur option 2 aswell, seems like a choice... heh

(added u 2 hotmail btw m8)

-Z

[Bibbs]

There may be a member that lives in the same town that could go have words?

[ZeroBlade]

i'm not too far from boro myself so i could go...

but it would look bad if i threaten the git.

altho if ne1 offers their service i'll treat em to a few bevvies for their work ;)

-Z

[Bibbs]

I didn't say threaten now .. just go and see the bod in person .. never know .. the office could be burnt down and a smoldering mess ..

And if not, you can always make it burnt down and a smoldering mess .. :)

[Demonic Angel]

I didn't say threaten now .. just go and see the bod in person .. never know .. the office could be burnt down and a smoldering mess ..

And if not, you can always make it burnt down and a smoldering mess .. :)

Ha ha haaa.....

Although if its on the news of an arson attack thereabouts we will all be your alibis...

"Oh No Officer, ZeroBlade was online ALL NIGHT that night!"

Seriously though, a quick chat with the bloke cant hurt right - perhaps he is having probs or has had an accident or something - wont hurt to find out....

[ZeroBlade]

Redraft of the soddin e-mail...:

Dear Jon,

In regards to the aforementioned item:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/ebayISAPI.dll?Vie...item=7902578503

As I have still not received the item from yourselves I ask for a FULL refund to the sum of £490 that was paid by myself.

If you do not respond or refund me my monies within the next week (commencing June 14th) then I shall have no choice but to inform the police and my solicitor to start court proceedings.

I shall also be obliged to inform companies such as Watchdog and make it known to various forums and websites around the world of your unscrupulous actions which would have a detrimental affect on your business.

Yours Sincerely

(sign here)

(print name here)

-Z

[Demonic Angel]

Redraft of the soddin e-mail...:

Dear Jon,

In regards to the aforementioned item:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/ebayISAPI.dll?Vie...item=7902578503

As I have still not received the item from yourselves I ask for a FULL refund to the sum of £490 that was paid by myself.

If you do not respond or refund me my monies within the next week (commencing June 14th) then I shall have no choice but to inform the police and my solicitor to start court proceedings.

I shall also be obliged to inform companies such as Watchdog and make it known to various forums and websites around the world of your unscrupulous actions which would have a detrimental affect on your business.

Yours Sincerely

(sign here)

(print name here)

-Z

Sounds good to me buddy! Its not harsh, not soft either, but not threatening.

If I received an email like that I would refund you yesterday!

[ZeroBlade]

Although if its on the news of an arson attack thereabouts we will all be your alibis...

"Oh No Officer, ZeroBlade was online ALL NIGHT that night!"

Seriously though, a quick chat with the bloke cant hurt right - perhaps he is having probs or has had an accident or something - wont hurt to find out....

lol @ bibbs, & lmao @ angel. U really a demonic littel angel rnt u ? :D

Guess i could go hav a spy, but with it being a unit i'm not sure if itl just be a storehouse or not...

-Z

[ZeroBlade]

Sounds good to me buddy! Its not harsh, not soft either, but not threatening.

If I received an email like that I would refund you yesterday!

why thank you

-Z

[Demonic Angel]

U really a demonic littel angel rnt u ? :D

Fraid so!

[SMW]

Your draft e mail - just being picky but 'watchdog' isn't a company - it's a TV programme.

[DazH]

Forgot all about this, thought you had your money back Z :(

What was the name again and I'll make some enquiries with our Boro branch, see if they've had dealings etc. He might even be a customer Either way couple of the lads down there are good mates so they'll look into it for me

[Moffmo]

get a crew and go chat with him, hell be scared as an F-word if hes scamming you, or hell explain the situation if hes legit.

One question all have you tried sending letters to his house.

theres been loads of ebayers iv dealt with that cant be ****d to use emails or have problems with it.

Coz iv been peed off before and sent loads of emails and that, but id still get my item... (would be nice to let you know thou dammit) and about 5 week later ill get an email saying - "congratulations, you have won my item blah bklah" :ffs:

Matt

[Bibbs]

TOC day out ..

I think you need it like the scene in Fast and Furious with all the cars pulling up outside the store one after another .. then a load of fully tatted blokes jumping out of modded motors ..

[Demonic Angel]

.. then a load of fully tatted blokes jumping out of modded motors ..

Err scuse me Bibbs, what about the gals? No sexism please! :D

I'll happliy join y'all on the TOC outing, complete with baseball bat and tats if necessary!