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978 Edward the Martyr, King of England from 975, was murdered at Corfe Castle, Dorset, apparently at the instigation of half-brother Ethelred, who wanted the crown for himself.

1662 The first public bus service began operating, in Paris.

1834 Six farm labourers from Tolpuddle, Dorset, England, were sentenced to transportation to Australia for forming a labour union.

1858 Rudolf Diesel, German engineer who invented the diesel engine, was born in Paris.

1889 Lavrenti Beria, Soviet chief of secret police, born.

1899 The first issue of An Claidheamh Soluis, The Sword of Life, was published.

The newspaper of the Gaelic League, it continued in existence until 1916.

1922 Indian leader Mahatma Gandhi was jailed for six years for sedition.

1931 The first electric razors were made in the US.

1949 The North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO) was set up.

1965 The first space-walk was made by cosmonaut Alexei Leonov, from the spaceship Voskhod 2.

1967 The oil tanker Torrey Cannon ran on to rocks near Land's End, spilling 120,000 gallons of crude oil into the sea.

1984 INLA leader Dominic McGinchey was extradited to Northern Ireland on murder charges.

1990 East Germany's first election since the Nazi takeover of 1933 ended in overwhelming victory for the three-party conservative alliance.

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721BC The first-ever recorded solar eclipse was seen from Babylon.

1628 The New England Company was formed in Massachusetts Bay.

1913 Russian composer Modest Mussorgsky's opera Boris Godunov was first performed in full at the Metropolitan Opera, New York.

1932 The Sydney Harbour Bridge, New South Wales, Australia, was opened; it was the world's longest single-span arch bridge, at 503 m/1,650 ft.

1969 British troops landed on the Caribbean island of Anguilla, after the island declared itself a republic; they were well received, and the island remained a UK dependency.

1970 The first-ever meeting of East and West German heads of government, Willi Stoph and Willy Brandt, took place at Erfurt.

1992 Buckingham Palace announced the separation of the Duke and Duchess of York (married 1986).

1996 South African president Nelson Mandela was granted a divorce from his estranged wife Winnie after 38 years of marriage.

Births

1593 Georges de la Tour, French painter

1721 Tobias Smollett, Scottish physician and author

1813 David Livingstone, Scottish missionary and explorer

1821 Richard Burton, English explorer and scholar

1848 Wyatt Earp, US law officer

1872 Sergei Diaghilev, Russian ballet impresario

1947 Glenn Close, US actress

Deaths

1683 Thomas Killigrew, English playwright

1847 Mary Anning, English paleontologist who discovered the first ichthyosaurus

1930 Arthur James Balfour, British prime minister

1950 Edgar Rice Burroughs, US novelist who wrote the Tarzan stories

1965 Alan Badel, English actor

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1413 Henry IV died, aged 46, after suffering a stroke at Westminster Abbey.

1549 Death of Thomas Seymour, Lord High Admiral of England, who married Henry VIII’s widow Catherine Parr.

When she died, he planned to marry Princess Elizabeth - but was arrested for treason and executed.

1806 The foundation stone of Dartmoor prison in Devon was laid.

1815 After his banishment to Elba, Napoleon returned to take regain power in France.

It was his ‘‘Last Hundred Days’’, ended by defeat at Waterloo.

1819 The famous and exclusive Burlington Arcade opened in London.

1852 Uncle Tom’s Cabin, an anti-slavery novel by Harriet Beecher Stowe, was published.

It sold a million copies in the first year.

1890 Benjamino Gigli, great Italian tenor, who succeeded Caruso at the New York Met, was born in Recanati, near Loreto.

1969 Beatle John Lennon married Yoko Ono in Gibraltar.

1974 An attempt to kidnap Princess Anne was made by a gunman who fired six shots, then tried to drag her from her car in The Mall.

He was later charged with attempted murder.

1980 The pirate radio station Radio Caroline, on the ship Mi Amigo, sank after 16 years of broadcasting.

1989 The IRA killed two top Royal Ulster Constabulary officers.

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This was the last day of my brothers 49th year.

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This was the last day of my brothers 49th year.

It didn't make the Irish "On this day" Must have been in the Scottish one :rolleyes:

Glad you amended that :lol2:

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Births

1685 Johann Sebastian Bach, German composer

1914 Paul Tortelier, French cellist

1925 Peter Brook, English stage and film director

1933 Michael Heseltine, British politician

1935 Brian Clough, English footballer and manager

1960 Ayrton Senna, Brazilian racing driver

Deaths

1556 Thomas Cranmer, archbishop of Canterbury, burned at the stake

1656 James Ussher, Irish theologian and archbishop of Armagh, who fixed the date of the Creation at 4004 BC

1843 Robert Southey, English poet

1936 Alexander Glazunov, Russian composer

1942 Philip Wilson Steer, English painter

1982 Harry H Corbett, English actor

Events

1933 Germany's first Nazi parliament was officially opened in a ceremony at the garrison church in Potsdam.

1946 British minister Aneurin Bevan announced the Labour government's plans for the National Health Service.

1952 Kwame Nkrumah was elected prime minister of the Gold Coast (later Ghana).

1960 The Sharpeville Massacre in South Africa - a peaceful demonstration against the pass laws - ended with about 70 Deaths when police fired on demonstrators.

1963 Alcatraz, the maximum-security prison in San Francisco Bay, USA, was closed.

1965 In USA, Martin Luther King headed a procession of 4,000 civil rights demonstrators from Selma to Montgomery, Alabama, to deliver petition on grievances of African-Americans.

1990 A demonstration in London against the poll tax became a riot, in which over 400 people were arrested.

1996 British beef imports were banned in Europe.

1997 A suicide blast in a cafe in Tel Aviv killed three Israeli women and wounded 47 after work started on a new Jewish settlement in East Jerusalem.

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1459 Maximilian I, Holy Roman Emperor

1599 Anthony van Dyck, Flemish painter

1913 Karl Malden, US film actor

1923 Marcel Marceau, French mime artist

1930 Stephen Sondheim, US composer and lyricist

1948 Andrew Lloyd Webber, English composer of musicals

Deaths

1687 Jean Lully, French composer

1772 John Canton, English physicist

1832 Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, German poet, novelist, and playwright

1896 Thomas Hughes, English author of Tom Brown's Schooldays

1958 Mike Todd, US film producer

1994 Walter Lantz, US animator and cartoon-film producer

Events

1824 The British parliament voted to buy 38 pictures at a cost of £57,000, to establish the national collection which is now housed in the National Gallery, Trafalgar Square, London.

1888 The English Football League was formed.

1895 French cinema pioneers Auguste and Louis Lumière gave the first demonstration of celluloid film, in Paris.

1942 The BBC began broadcasting in morse code to the French Resistance.

1945 The Arab League was founded in Cairo.

1946 Jordan achieved independence from British rule.

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On this day in 2009 British reality TV star Jade Goody died in her sleep, she was suffering from cervical cancer and leaves behind 2 sons aged 5 & 4.

RIP

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On this day in 2009 British reality TV star Jade Goody died in her sleep, she was suffering from cervical cancer and leaves behind 2 sons aged 5 & 4.

RIP

I used not like her, but I am deeply touched by her strength, determination & sheer willpower in accepting & dealing with her illness & death. In the end she turned out to be a great person, worthy of admiration & respect.

RIP.

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On this day in 2009 British reality TV star Jade Goody died in her sleep, she was suffering from cervical cancer and leaves behind 2 sons aged 5 & 4.

RIP

I used not like her, but I am deeply touched by her strength, determination & sheer willpower in accepting & dealing with her illness & death. In the end she turned out to be a great person, worthy of admiration & respect.

RIP.

I agree, she went from annoying to a human with a heart of gold.

We need more people in the world with her courage.

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Births

1887 Juan Gris, Spanish painter

1904 Joan Crawford, US film actress

1910 Akira Kurosawa, Japanese film director

1912 Wernher von Braun, German-born US rocket engineer

1920 Jimmy Edwards, English comedian

1929 Roger Bannister, English neurologist who, as a student, was the first person to run a mile in under four minutes (3 min 59.4 sec)

Deaths

1842 Stendhal, French novelist

1945 Steve Donoghue, English jockey

1953 Raoul Dufy, French painter

1964 Peter Lorre, Hungarian-born US film actor

1981 Claude Auchinleck, British Field Marshal

1981 Mike Hailwood, English champion motor cyclist

1994 Giulietta Masina, Italian actress

Events

1765 The British parliament passed the Stamp Act, imposing a tax on all publications and official documents in America.

1861 London's first trams began operating, in Bayswater.

1891 Goal nets, invented by Liverpudlian J A Brodie, were used for the first time in an FA Cup Final.

1919 The Italian Fascist Party was formed by Benito Mussolini.

1925 Authorities in the state of Tennessee, USA, forbade the teaching of Darwinian theory in schools.

1939 Germany annexed Memel (modern Klaipeda) from Lithuania and forced Lithuania to sign a treaty.

1956 Pakistan was declared an Islamic republic within the Commonwealth.

1983 President Reagan proposed the 'Star Wars'defence system for the USA, using satellites to detect enemy missiles and effect their destruction.

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My 90 year old father attends hospital to get the results of his brain scan........................ he's only waited 89 years :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Births

1834 William Morris, English socialist and craftsman

1887 Roscoe 'Fatty' Arbuckle, US silent-film actor

1901 Ub Iwerks, US animator who worked with Walt Disney on the creation of Mickey Mouse

1903 Malcolm Muggeridge, English writer and broadcaster

1930 Steve McQueen, US film actor

1947 Archie Gemmill, Scottish footballer

Deaths

1603 Elizabeth I, Queen of England

1882 Henry Wadsworth Longfellow, US poet

1905 Jules Verne, French novelist

1909 J M Synge, Irish playwright

1944 Orde Charles Wingate, British general

1976 Bernard, Viscount Montgomery of Alamein, British Field Marshal

1995 Joseph Needham, English biochemist and sinologist

Events

1401 Tamerlane the Great captured Damascus in Syria.

1603 The crowns of England and Scotland were united when King James VI of Scotland succeeded to the English throne.

1877 The Oxford - Cambridge boat race ended in a dead heat, the only time this has happened.

1922 Only three of the 32 horses in the Grand National Steeplechase finished the race.

1941 In N Africa, German and Italian forces commanded by General Rommel took El Algheila in Libya from the British; Rommel launched his first offensive.

1942 The national loaf was introduced in Britain.

1976 Isabel Perón, president of Argentina, was deposed.

1994 Allegations were made in the US Congress that President and Mrs Clinton may have used their part- ownership of the Whitewater Development Corporation in Arkansas for improper purposes, especially in connection with the failed Madison Guaranty Savings bank (the affair becomes known as 'Whitewatergate').

1997 The world's first law allowing voluntary euthanasia was overturned by a vote in the Australian Senate. Four people had died under the law; all had terminal cancer.

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My 90 year old father attends hospital to get the results of his brain scan........................ he's only waited 89 years :lol: :lol: :lol:

Maybe you could get 2 for the price of 1 :naughty: You must be a few years overdue, too :lol2:

Taking you seriously, for once, I hope all goes well for him. I wish him the Best of Luck :thumbsup:

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Births

1133 Henry II, King of England

1867 Arturo Toscanini, Italian conductor

1881 Béla Bartók, Hungarian composer

1906 A J P Taylor, English historian

1908 David Lean, English film director

1942 Aretha Franklin, US singer

1947 Elton John, English pop singer and songwriter

Deaths

1809 Anna Seward, English novelist who wrote Black Beauty

1836 Nicholas Hawksmoor, English architect

1914 Frédéric Mistral, French poet

1918 Claude Debussy, French composer

1975 King Faisal of Saudi Arabia, assassinated by his nephew

Events

1306 Robert I 'the Bruce' was crowned king of Scots.

1609 English explorer Henry Hudson set off from Amsterdam, on behalf of the Dutch East India Company, in search of the North West Passage.

1807 The British parliament abolished the slave trade.

1843 A pedestrian tunnel was opened beneath the Thames in London, linking Wapping with Rotherhithe.

1876 In the first football international between Wales and Scotland, played in Glasgow, Scotland won 4-0.

1957 Six European countries (France, Belgium, Luxembourg, West Germany, Italy, and the Netherlands) signed the Treaty of Rome, establishing the European Community.

1978 The Cambridge boat sunk in the English University Boat Race.

1995 Former heavyweight boxing champion Mike Tyson, 28, was released from the Indiana Youth Center prison in Plainfield, Indiana after serving three years on a 1992 rape conviction.

1996 British athlete Diane Modahl cleared her name after having been banned from competition by the International Amateur Athletic Federation for drug abuse.

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1859 A E Housman, English poet

1874 Robert Frost, US poet

1925 Pierre Boulez, French conductor and composer

1939 Leonard Nimoy, US actor who played Mr Spock in the TV series Star Trek; James Caan, US film actor

1944 Diana Ross, US singer

Deaths

1726 John Vanbrugh, English playwright and architect

1827 Ludwig von Beethoven, German composer

1892 Walt Whitman, US poet

1902 Cecil Rhodes, English-born South African politician

1923 Sarah Bernhardt, French actress

1959 Raymond Chandler, US novelist who created private eye Philip Marlowe

1973 Noël Coward, English playwright and entertainer

Events

1839 The annual rowing regatta at Henley-on-Thames was established.

1886 The funeral of the first person to be officially cremated in Britain took place in Woking, Surrey.

1920 The British special constables known as the Black and Tans arrived in Ireland.

1934 Driving tests were introduced in Britain.

1973 The first women were allowed on the floor of the London Stock Exchange.

1979 Israeli prime minister Menachem Begin and Egyptian president Anwar Sadat signed a peace treaty after two years of negotiations.

1989 In elections for the Congress of People's Deputies in the USSR, Boris Yeltsin - dismissed from the Politburo 17 months before - gained 89% of the vote in his Moscow constituency, while many senior Party officials fail to get elected.

1995 Seven EU nations - Belgium, France, Germany, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Portugal and Spain - eliminated their internal border controls to adhere to a 1985 open-border pact and also enacted a system of tighter control on their external borders.

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1794 The United States Navy was formed.

1863 Sir Henry Royce, co-founder of Rolls-Royce Motor Company, was born in Alwalton, near Peterborough, the son of a miller.

1914 The first successful citrated blood transfusion was performed in a Brussels hospital.

1923 Chemist and physicist Sir James Dewar, who invented the vacuum flask, died in London.

1924 Jazz singer Sarah Vaughan was born in New Jersey.

1931 Arnold Bennett, novelist and writer (Clayhanger) died of typhoid after a visit to Paris.

1958 Nikita Kruschev ousted Prime Minister Bulganin to take power in the USSR.

1966 Football’s World Cup was found in a garden by a dog called Pickles after it was stolen from a stamp collection in Westminster Hall a week before.

1977 Two jumbo jets collided on the ground at foggy Tenerife airport killing 574 people.

1989 Bank Holiday Monday was the warmest for 37 years, with the Midlands hotter than the Costa Brava or the Canary Islands.

1991 David Icke, former goalkeeper, BBC sports presenter and Green Party spokesman, announced he had been ‘‘chosen’’ to save the world.

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My 90 year old father attends hospital to get the results of his brain scan........................ he's only waited 89 years :lol: :lol: :lol:

Maybe you could get 2 for the price of 1 :naughty: You must be a few years overdue, too :lol2:

Taking you seriously, for once, I hope all goes well for him. I wish him the Best of Luck :thumbsup:

an update - he came back with the knowledge that the blood supply to the brain is slightly impaired, as is the circulation around the brain - consistent with his age and the fact he smoked for years before giving up 25 years ago.....and a heart valve leak which isn't too bad.

Me? I had the MRI some years ago to discover the extent of the damage after I caught a guy who fell of scaffolding. My mental health is clearly wrong for catching the guy ! Thats why I retired at the age of 44 :lol:

Going through Gatwick airport security yersterday, the metal scanner went daft at my waist area - and the guy couldn't find anything. I said I had an operation there 6 months ago and this is my 1st flight since, so we reckoned there must be a pair of scissors or a scalpel been left inside :eek: :eek: Figures as I've been having some discomfort :help: .....sorry - off topic - that was yesterday!

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Births

1483 Raphael, Italian painter

1515 St Teresa of Avila, Carmelite nun

1660 George I, King of Great Britain and Ireland

1902 Flora Robson, English actress

1921 Dirk Bogarde, English actor and author

1942 Neil Kinnock, British politician

Deaths

1868 James Thomas Brudenell, 7th earl of Cardigan, leader of the disastrous Charge of the Light Brigade at Balaclava

1941 Virginia Woolf, English novelist

1943 Sergei Rachmaninov, Russian composer

1958 W C Handy, US blues composer

1969 Dwight Eisenhower, 34th president of the USA

1985 Marc Chagall, Russian-born French painter

1994 Eugène Ionesco, Romanian-born French dramatist

Events

1910 The first seaplane took off near Mubikille, S France.

1912 Both the Oxford and the Cambridge boats sank in the University boat race.

1930 The cities of Angora and Constantinople, in Turkey, changed their names to Ankara and Istanbul respectively.

1939 The Spanish Civil War came to an end as Madrid surrendered to General Franco.

1939 Adolf Hitler denounced Germany's nonaggression pact with Poland (of Jan 1934).

1945 Germany dropped its last V2 bomb on Britain.

1979 The nuclear power station at Three Mile Island, Pennsylvania, suffered a meltdown in the core of one of its reactors.

1996 Three British soldiers were found guilty in a Cypriot court of the manslaughter of a Danish tour guide.

1997 Dozens of Albanian immigrants drowned in the Adriatic following a collision with an Italian navy corvette that had been trying to stop the boat carrying refugees from entering Italian waters.

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1746 Spanish court painter Francisco de Goya was born in Fuendetodos.

1840 Regency dandy George Bryan ‘‘Beau’’ Brummell died a pauper in France.

1842 Ether was used as an anaesthetic for the first time, by American surgeon Dr Crawford Long.

1853 Artist Vincent van Gogh was born in the Dutch village of Groot-Zundert.

1867 Alaska was bought by America from Russia for 7.

2 million dollars - less than two cents an acre.

1880 Playwright Sean O’Casey was born in Dublin.

1964 The seaside resort of Clacton was the scene of pitched battles by gangs of mods and rockers.

1981 US President Reagan was wounded in an assassination bid outside Washington’s Hilton Hotel.

1986 James Cagney, American tough-guy actor, died aged 86.

1987 Sunflowers by Vincent van Gogh was sold at auction by Christie’s for £24.

75 million.

1991 Seven million people in Sudan were faced with starvation after drought and crop failure.

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1775 The British parliament passed an act forbidding its North American colonies to trade with anyone other than Britain.

1842 Ether was first used as an anaesthetic during surgery, by US doctor Crawford Long.

1856 The Crimean War was brought to an end by the signing of the Treaty of Paris.

1867 The USA bought Alaska from Russia for $7.2 million (oil had not yet been discovered).

1893 Thomas Bayard, the USA's first ambassador to Great Britain, arrived in London.

1972 Britain assumed direct rule over Northern Ireland, with William Whitelaw as Secretary of State.

1981 In Washington DC, USA, would-be assassin John Hinckley shot President Reagan in the chest.

1994 The West Indies cricket team dismissed England for 46, the lowest total reached by an English side since 1887.

1997 A grenade attack on an opposition protest in Phnom Penh, capital of Cambodia, killed 14 people.

Births

1746 Francisco de Goya, Spanish painter

1820 Writer Anna Sewell - author of 'Black Beauty'.

1844 Paul Verlaine, French poet

1853 Vincent Van Gogh, Dutch painter

1880 Sean O'Casey, Irish playwright

1882 Melanie Klein, Austrian-born British psychologist

1945 Eric Clapton, English guitarist

Deaths

1783 William Hunter, Scottish anatomist and obstetrician

1840 'Beau' Brummel, English dandy

1925 Rudolf Steiner, Austrian philosopher

1949 Friedrich Bergius, German scientist

1950 Léon Blum, French politician

1986 James Cagney, US film actor

1993 Richard Diebenkkorn, US painter

2002 Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon, Queen Mother of the United Kingdom (b. 1900)

2004 Michael King, New Zealand historia

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1282 The Sicilian Vespers, a massacre of the French in Sicily, begun the previous evening, ended.

1889 In Paris, the Eiffel Tower, built for the Universal Exhibition, was inaugurated.

1896 The first zip fastener was patented in the USA by its inventor, Whitcomb Judson.

1959 Tibetan Buddhist leader the Dalai Lama fled from Chinese-occupied Tibet.

1968 President Johnson announced his decision not to seek re-election and restricted US bombing of North Vietnam.

1973 Racehorse Red Rum set a record of 9 min 1.9 sec for the Grand National Steeplechase.

1986 Hampton Court Palace, near Richmond, SW London, was severely damaged by a fire which broke out in the south wing.

1990 Huge anti-poll tax demonstration in Trafalgar Square, London, ended in confrontations with the police, and rioting and looting in the West End.

1991 Military structure of Warsaw Pact was dissolved.

1996 In the Russian Federation, Boris Yeltsin announced a Chechen cease-fire and the withdrawal of Russian troops.

2004 Sandton Square in Johannesburg, South Africa, is renamed Nelson Mandela Square.

Births

1596 René Descartes, French philosopher and mathematician

1621 Andrew Marvell, English poet

1651 Karl II, Elector Palatine (d. 1685)

1675 Pope Benedict XIV (d. 1758)

1718 Marianne Victoria of Borbón, queen regent of Portugal (d. 1781)

1723 King Frederick V of Denmark

1732 Franz Joseph Haydn, Austrian composer

1809 Nikolai Gogol, Russian novelist

1811 Robert Bunsen, German chemist

1927 John Fowles, English novelist

1935 Mexican musician and band leader Herb Albert.

1935 British politician David Steel

1948 American politician Al Gore.

Deaths

1547 King Francis I of France

1621 King Philip III of Spain

1631 John Donne, English poet

1837 John Constable, English painter

1855 Charlotte Brontë, English novelist

1980 Jesse Owens, US athlete

1981 Enid Bagnold, English novelist

2003 H.S.M. Coxeter, English born geometer and author

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1789 In New York City, the United States House of Representatives holds its first quorum and elects Frederick Muhlenberg of Pennsylvania as its first House Speaker.

1826 Samuel Morey patents the internal combustion engine.

1854 Hard Times begins serialisation in Charles Dickens magazine, Household Words.

1908 The British Territorial Army was founded.

1918 In Britain, the Royal Air Force was formed when the Royal Naval Air Service and the Royal Flying Corps were merged.

1924 Adolf Hitler is sentenced to five years in jail for his participation in the "Beer Hall Putsch." However, he spends only nine months in jail, during which he writes the book Mein Kampf.

1947 Britain's school-leaving age was raised to 15.

1948 The USSR began its blockade of Berlin.

1960 The USA launched the world's first weather satellite, Tiros I.

1973 In Britain, Value Added Tax (VAT) replaced Purchase Tax and Selective Employment Tax.

1979 Ayatollah Khomeini declared Iran an Islamic Republic.

1990 In Britain, 1,000 inmates rioted in Strangeways Prison, Manchester, taking over large parts of the prison.

1996 Douglass Hogg, the UK minister of agriculture, fisheries and food, announced a programme to destroy all cattle older than 30 months.

1997 Palestinian suicide bombers struck twice in one day, killing themselves but not destroying their targets, which in both cases appear to be buses taking Jewish children to school.

2001 Former president of Federal Republic of Yugoslavia Slobodan Miloševiæ surrenders to police special forces, to be tried on charges of war crimes.

2002 The Netherlands legalizes euthanasia, becoming the only nation in the world to do so.

Births

1578 William Harvey, English physician who explained the circulation of the blood

1732 Franz Josef Haydn, Austrian composer

1815 Otto von Bismarck, first chancellor of the German Empire

1868 Edmond Rostand, French playwright, author of Cyrano de Bergerac

1883 Lon Chaney, US silent-film actor

1957 Ali McGraw, US film actress, 1938; David Gower, English cricketer

Deaths

1204 Eleanor of Aquitaine, queen of England and France

1406 King Robert III of Scotland

1917 Scott Joplin, US composer

1922 Karl Franz Josef, emperor of Austria

1976 Max Ernst, German Surrealist painter

1984 Marvin Gaye, US singer

1993 Solly Zuckerman, South-African born British zoologist

1994 Robert Doisneau, French photographer

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This really took my attention---------

1997 Palestinian suicide bombers struck twice in one day, killing themselves but not destroying their targets, which in both cases appear to be buses taking Jewish children to school

They rarely fail to hit their targets :( I wonder were they more noble than they are usually given credit for. Did they feel unable to wipe out two Bus Loads of innocent school children ?

They could not have refused to go on the mission & certainly could not return alive :g:

Bad luck (from their point of view) or a noble act of self sacrifice?

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This really took my attention---------

1997 Palestinian suicide bombers struck twice in one day, killing themselves but not destroying their targets, which in both cases appear to be buses taking Jewish children to school

They rarely fail to hit their targets :( I wonder were they more noble than they are usually given credit for. Did they feel unable to wipe out two Bus Loads of innocent school children ?

They could not have refused to go on the mission & certainly could not return alive :g:

Bad luck (from their point of view) or a noble act of self sacrifice?

Crass stupidity, Killing kids never seemed to bother them before...

Off my soapbox :censor:

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