Help !

[Niall G]

I've bought a 2015 Aygo X-play. Fitted some Musketier body trim. However, I would be keen on adding some power now. I've read about turbos and chipping etc erg. I'm a complete novice. I've asked Toyota dealer / garage here ( Clonmel, Tipperary, Ireland, but they are steering well clear. Private garages are also avoiding touching the car.... no explanation. Just that they don't offer this service. Again, totally green, I'm stuck. I have a €1000 euro budget ( can go a little over ) and would like some help. I wouldn't want to stress the engine and race the thing, just a little extra power in the early gears.

 

( also..... I'm a new member.... Niall is the name.... English ..... Irish family. I'm from London, moved Ireland 2 years ago to help my Mum after my Father oassed.... staying here now.... settled. This is my first Toyota. Fell in love instantly. That's about it really. )

 

Anyone????  

[FROSTYBALLS]

Hello Niall - welcome to Toyota Owners Club.

Presumably the Toyota dealer won't want to know as mods to the engine, etc will probably void the remainder of your 3 year/100,000km new car warranty.

[Niall G]

yep.... thanks. I sort of expected that. The service/ workshop guy has a modded mk1 civic..... even so, I only went to him for 'pointers' but nothing. 

I suppose my question was really after a solution, as I now know the reaons why Toyota themselves won't go there. What are my options to go forward. 

[Niall G]

oh.... excuse my manners ..... thank you Frosty for your input. 

[FROSTYBALLS]

Moved to the Aygo club to generate more responses.

[chrismorrow]

As far as i know the 1.0 isn't easily tuned. I think there is a supercharger kit for this engine. You could start possibly with a better air intake that will give you some pretty nice intake noise and possibly a little more power but probably nothing noticeable. If you look around the internet for Toyota 1KR-FE (thats your engine) supercharger kits or turbo kits. But remembering thats a pretty major upgrade, one thing I always advise before adding more power is better breaks (you want to be able to stop quickly) and if you really are going to be doing some high speeds, just check the speed rating on the tyres. Im not a massive safety person, but breaks and tyres are very important with added power, but its something that people tend to look past when they are tuning their cars. 

 

Regards

Chris

[adalb1]

Nice package, but with little engine you will do

[mickburkesnr]

There's always one guy coming on here and showing off that he's moved to Ireland, rubbing it in for the rest of us who'd like to go but get held back 

Anyway, I looked in to this with my 107/Aygo. Unless you're willing to throw a ball of money at the car, you're going to struggle. Plus if there was performance gains to be had easily and cost effectively then Toyota/Peugeot/Citroen would release them with these performance parts attached.

That's not to say it isn't possible to get some sort of performance gain out of the engine, but they're going to be 1HP increments. A K&N filter would be a good thing, let the engine breath better. Forced induction maybe, trying to get as cold as air as possible in to the engine. Other than that you'd have to start looking at weight reduction. But even this depends on how spartan you want to go on a fairly basic car.

To build on what chrismorrow said, brakes will need to be a consideration to you. No good going fast if you can't stop yourself and jump in to a ditch. You could look to improving the handling and grip of the car first, which would mean you could go around corners quicker. Something which people with huge powered cars tend to forget about.

Also I know that the Aygo can take a gearbox from the IQ. In terms of the Mark 1's they only have 5 gears, the IQ has 6. Now I don't know if this would improve the power, but it might improve your acceleration.

Just a few things to consider.

[fordulike]

I agree with Mick. I remember reading once, about a bloke who had spent a good sum of cash reprogramming the ecu for performance. Result.... not one ounce of extra horsepower.

[Plob]

Am sure I saw something about a mk1 Aygo with a 2.0i engine shoehorned in instead of 1.0?!

[FROSTYBALLS]

There was Toyota's Aygo Crazy .......

http://media.toyota.co.uk/2008/06/aygo-crazy-concept-car-to-make-world-premiere-at-london-motor-show/

 

[Niall G]

Guys, thanks to all. 

The kit I have fitted track spreads each corner by 10mm and shocks/springs drop by 10mm. 

 

This also shows my ignorance of the subject. I hadn't considered brakes. Although, looking at it now, it absolutely clear and I can't unsdertsand why i didn't think of that straight away. Another hint of impulsively fast thought process. 

 

I've missed things that I shouldn't have. 

The supercharger option made my eyes widen. But that's probably me being impulsive again. I'm aware of pointless tweaks here and there and woudln't really consider a myriad of 1bhp increases that in real world terms would offer a negligible increase and may even have a negative once the hardware weight to power ratios were dialled in.

It's a 998 and I know I'm being over expectant. The supercharger still seems attractive. I suppose because it's a single fitting of a single item ( bar entrails ). 

I'll take the advice and have a mooch around for the kit. 

 

I totally appreciate the advice guys ( and gals ). Thanks...... food and wisdom for thought.

[eygo]

you've probably bought the wrong car if your after performance now as std the x-play has 68bhp

if you could get 10% extra it would only give you 74.8bhp and probably cost a lost for the little gain you will achieve.

here is a link for you though

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Blue-Truck-Air-Intake-Turbonator-Double-Fan-Engine-Super-Charger-Gas-Fuel-Saver-/162501297718?fits=Car+Make%3AToyota|Model%3AAygo&hash=item25d5d50636:g:GwsAAOSww9xZCXuthttp://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Blue-Truck-Air-Intake-Turbonator-Double-Fan-Engine-Super-Charger-Gas-Fuel-Saver-/162501297718?fits=Car+Make%3AToyota|Model%3AAygo&hash=item25d5d50636:g:GwsAAOSww9xZCXut

[adalb1]

Toyota Aygo Sport http://www.auto-swiat.pl/nowe/toyota-aygo-sport-mala-szybka-i-niesforna/q2v16

[mickburkesnr]

16 hours ago, Plob said:

Am sure I saw something about a mk1 Aygo with a 2.0i engine shoehorned in instead of 1.0?!

Shoehorned? Might as well have stuck the wheels straight to the engine!

I think if you want performance you can look at weight reduction. I mean, you don't need the rear seats do you? ;)

[Plob]

Now there's an idea. I've seen little fiats and smarts with Honda fireblade engines dropped in the back seat, I guess you could do that?

Very crazy Aygo!!!

[eygo]

these companies have been around for years and years

here is one i seen http://www.smartuki.com/

there are some videos of smart cars drifting

[Pytheas]

I came across this Chip OBD Toyota Aygo 1.0 which promises an increase of engine power (for Aygo) of at least 15BHP - can't believe it;s actually delivering that. They are based in Poland, which seems to have a tradition regarding pushing cars to their limits though...

[fordulike]

5 minutes ago, Pytheas said:

I came across this Chip OBD Toyota Aygo 1.0 which promises an increase of engine power (for Aygo) of at least 15BHP - can't believe it;s actually delivering that. They are based in Poland, which seems to have a tradition regarding pushing cars to their limits though...

Hee hee, I would take that claim with a salt mine full of salt... Now if they strapped a turbo to it like the Daihatsu GTti.. Mmmmmmmmm

[mickburkesnr]

I wonder how much of an improvement forced air induction would make to the car?

Even removing the paper air filter and replacing it with a K&N job might do something?

[Justhandguns]

On 2017-5-24 at 8:24 AM, mickburkesnr said:

I wonder how much of an improvement forced air induction would make to the car?

Even removing the paper air filter and replacing it with a K&N job might do something?

You will have to change the whole exhaust and a complete remapping in order to get 4-5hp out. The K&N filter does basically nothing, I had it in for years, no change whatsoever.

[SuperAygo]

I don't think you buy an Aygo with performance in mind lol. But I would say forced induction is the only way to go if you're hell bent on it. You will need bigger injectors, larger bore exhaust and rolling road remap to go along with it. Forget the K&N the only performance you'll get is from lightening your pocket the stock filter isn't restrictive as they're over engineered for owners who don't service them. A bigger exhaust will kill low end torque and trip the engine light without a remap. You could try ditching the spare wheel, rare seats, electric windows to make it lighter or just buy a Type R.

[AYGOSTU]

As mentioned, performance gains on the aygo are tough..

When I had a 2009 Aygo, I fitted a K&N pannel filter (£45), a full cat back stainless steel exhaust from longlife (£250) , and my local tuning specialist remapped it. (£250).. I removed the spare wheel, and replaced with a can of tyre weld, and replaced the tyres with a lighter Yokohama tyre when they where at end of life.

I gained 6bhp.. from all that and a few kg's lighter.. It may not sound alot, but 10% power increase is quite respectable really, and you could certainly tell the difference on pick up and top speed.

Stu

 

[mickburkesnr]

I can tell you the cat makes a difference.

My 107 is on it's 3rd catalytic converter. Because I hardly drove the car since putting the 2nd cat in (the girlfriend drove it) I didn't notice anything but when I drove it on a long trip to Cardiff I was thinking "I'm sure there used to be more power than this". Was so awful, the engine light came on and I ended up buying a second hand cat from a crashed C1 which cured the engine light.

I think now it's alot better, more responsive. But I always used to change gear after 3,000 rpms (when on the highway). I decided to move that to around 4,500rpm. Makes a whole world of difference to the speed of the car too!

But I'm going to do what @AYGOSTU did and get the catalytic converter made for the car. I think the restriction there does hamper the engine.

[Plob]

22 hours ago, mickburkesnr said:

I always used to change gear after 3,000 rpms (when on the highway). I decided to move that to around 4,500rpm. Makes a whole world of difference to the speed

The Aygo's VVTi isn't it?

You need to get the revs high for the ECU to know you want performance over economy, it then starts playing with the valves and timing differently...