Help what's happened

[Cassie]

Well took the Auris 2.2 deisel to the garage and the dpf sensor needed changing . As toyota said it might snap off IT DID 😢. £900 For a new exhaust the say. How can they justify that  what a **** car toyota  I will never ever buy toyota again after all the years I've owned one  😢😢😢 only bonus I didn't take it to toyota the effort of taking it out the bill would of been even worse. Off the the scrap pile it will go 

[chrismorrow]

Why didn't you just go to a custom exhaust place and get the DPF gutted and the ecu bypassed. Can't believe you paid that much money for something that doesn't do the car any good. It's not toyotas fault that they have to put DPF on diesel vehicles. Blame the EU for there strict emmison testing.

Mod edit: reference to other club removed.

[Cassie]

Thanks.  I haven't paid for it I didn't get it done I can't afford £900. I will look into it.

[Heidfirst]

4 hours ago, chrismorrow said:

Why didn't you just go to a custom exhaust place and get the DPF gutted and the ecu bypassed.

because it's illegal & an instant MOT fail if discovered ...?

[chrismorrow]

Currently, if it looks to be there it will still pass the mot. Let's be fair the DPF doesn't do anything to help the car, it just has a negative impact on the engine and causes more issues than it's worth with a lot of vehicles 

[Cassie]

Yes I agree. 

[Heidfirst]

4 minutes ago, chrismorrow said:

Currently, if it looks to be there it will still pass the mot. Let's be fair the DPF doesn't do anything to help the car, it just has a negative impact on the engine and causes more issues than it's worth with a lot of vehicles 

On the other hand it has a positive effect on the environment.

[Cassie]

Well I've just had diagnostics done again since it came back from the garage and there's another fault code that wasn't there p1386 absolutely fuming 

[chrismorrow]

5 hours ago, Heidfirst said:

On the other hand it has a positive effect on the environment.

How? When it still releases everything it catches when it burns it off? When the DPF does a regen, it richens up the fuel mixture so more polloutuon,(and uses more diesel) then it burns off all the sut that it has caught, and that smoke that it burns off is really rancid and awful so that cannot be good for the environment either. I have done forced regens before on a lot of vehicles. To be honest, the only way to catch the sut and not release it into the air would be to use a throwaway filter wouldn't it? Or use a fluid that can be disposed of or drained out? 

[Cassie]

Sounds a better option but wouldn't know where to ask about it or what to ask

[Konrad C]

Along with your other post it all adds up now. You did not have the second code (P1386) when you posted about the sensors:-

Changing the senors showed made no difference because the DPF may be blocked or the regen was not working properly. I also found the following when searching P1386 - 

Mistermena posted about using BG244 additive to help keep the engine and system as clean as possible. 

The real problem are these systems added to diesel engines to meet emissions, get less reliable and more complex. The engine itself is fine - unless you are one of the lucky few with AD head gasket problems! This is why I won't own a diesel.

[Cassie]

Thank you. I didn't have that code before it went to the garage 😠 only after they broke the sensor and can't get the other bit out so devoked to just put it back hand tight. No happy with them at all. Cars in limp mode now

[Heidfirst]

14 hours ago, chrismorrow said:

How? When it still releases everything it catches when it burns it off? When the DPF does a regen, it richens up the fuel mixture so more polloutuon,(and uses more diesel) then it burns off all the sut that it has caught, and that smoke that it burns off is really rancid and awful so that cannot be good for the environment either. I have done forced regens before on a lot of vehicles. To be honest, the only way to catch the sut and not release it into the air would be to use a throwaway filter wouldn't it? Or use a fluid that can be disposed of or drained out? 

OK, it is less bad on the environment that just having the particulates ejected straight out of the exhaust.

[FROSTYBALLS]

17 hours ago, chrismorrow said:

To be honest, the only way to catch the sut and not release it into the air would be to use a throwaway filter wouldn't it? Or use a fluid that can be disposed of or drained out? 

So how would we prevent the soot,etc from used filters or fluids from entering the environment? Specialist disposal facilities? Cost to Government?

[Cassie]

Hi all. My auris T180 2.2 deisel  went into the garage for a new dpf sensor. The garage broke the top of the sensor in the dpf 😠  they screwed it back on and said there's nothing they can do 😠 now car is in limp mode 10 miles an hour. Before it went in it was only P0031 falt code but was running great. Picked it up and I just about got home it struggled to drive at all. Called out breakdown and they said another fault code of P1386 was present 😠

My question is  could the dpf sensor cause this or has the garage done it while messing with the sensor.  Is it an expensive job to fix P1386 

Edited July 30, 2017 by Cassie
Forgot something

[smudge-1991]

P1386 is for the DPF injector.

I wonder if they have knocked the sensor during removal of the top sensor. Did they check the DPF content level. 

[Cassie]

No they just tryed to take it out without even having the replacement part

[FROSTYBALLS]

Threads merged.

[Cassie]

What do you mean 

[conman33158]

If they broke the top of the sensor in the dpf then it's up to them to order the part and replace it. Same with any other item that you leave in for repair, that's why they have insurance. I'd like to see them tell an owner of a £75,000 car that there is nothing more they can do after breaking something.

[Cassie]

I know I agree I'm going to call them tomorrow but my cars in another garage now I didn't trust them. 

[YarisHybrid2016]

On 7/26/2017 at 0:02 AM, chrismorrow said:

How? When it still releases everything it catches when it burns it off? When the DPF does a regen, it richens up the fuel mixture so more polloutuon,(and uses more diesel) then it burns off all the sut that it has caught, and that smoke that it burns off is really rancid and awful so that cannot be good for the environment either. I have done forced regens before on a lot of vehicles. To be honest, the only way to catch the sut and not release it into the air would be to use a throwaway filter wouldn't it? Or use a fluid that can be disposed of or drained out? 

A true example of politicians legislating rubbish they don't understand!!

It never made any sense!! 😡😡