Full size spare for the 1.8 corolla

[Tapastourist]

I have a 1.8 Corolla hybrid 2019 with repair kit, which I purchased a couple of months ago. I really wanted a spacesaver, so I have just got one off eBay and thought I would just fit it in the car. Only to find it doesn't fit ! there is only 4" depth under the floor and the tyre is 5" deep, also the plastic trim under the boot catch fouls the tyre. This suggests that the boot size must be smaller if the new car is ordered with spacesaver and nowhere do I see different boot sizes dependant on spacesaver or repair kit.

What are Toyota playing at ?

Anyone want a spacesaver ?

[Tapastourist]

Looks like I'm going to answer my own query as I have just gone through the Toyota car ordering procedure and it appears the boot has two height positions.

Lower position is for 1.8L with tyre repair kit. The higher position is for 2.0L because of bigger Battery and also 1.8L with spacesaver  !!!! nowhere do Toyota mention this when quoting boot space !

[Timmon]

On 9/16/2020 at 1:56 PM, Mitsos_Hybrid said:

When we removed the front wheel to test fit the spare, I saw this rust in the center hub. I don't know if its normal for a 8 months old car. The technician in the Tyre shop told me that it is normal.

My view would be normal, it is just surface rust, and it will take many years before causing a problem. Consider that, when it rains overnight, you will see quite a lot of rust on your brake disks before you set off in the morning, after just a few hours damp. The wheel hub will be wet a lot longer, so surface rust is bound to appear. I would not worry at all.

[Roy124]

My dealer specified a space spare for my 2020 1.8 HB.  I don't remember specifying it.  The spare wheel change kit is in preformed polystrene moulds which require the boot floor to be at the same level as the 2.0 floor as it needs the same headroom as the Battery.  Apart from peace of mind it has the advantage of a full length, level load area with the back seats folded.  There is plenty of space around the SS and also above it.  Without trying it certainly looks as if the space is large enough for a full sized wheel.

[Roy124]

Regarding wheel mount rust, my previous Mercedes specialist would grease the plate and bolts with, I think, molybdenum grease.  There was never any corrosion lock between wheel and wheel hub.  That said, KwikFit said you should not use grease on the wheel studs.  Your choice. 

 

Mitos, looking at you wheel photos, is the spare lying loose or bolted down?  It is said that an unsecured spare wheel can be lethal in a crash.

Edited September 18, 2020 by Roy124
added about spare wheel

[Mitsos_Hybrid]

On 9/18/2020 at 3:26 PM, Roy124 said:

Mitos, looking at you wheel photos, is the spare lying loose or bolted down?  It is said that an unsecured spare wheel can be lethal in a crash.

No, not bolted just lying down in its specific place. None of my cars ever have a bolted spare wheel.

[Jack Spratt]

On 9/2/2020 at 7:28 PM, Devon Aygo said:

The wheel ins't the issue and can be purchased from Toyota:

Space saver wheel 42611-0F091

Tyre 125/70D17

 however in a 1.8 Hatch back there is no where for the wheel to go, the car needs a full kit of parts ( under development ) to install a raised floor to allow fitment of the wheel.

Hi Devon Auto 

First many thanks for your invaluable info on various topics.

I'm interested in getting a space saver wheel and necessary fittings for my 2019 Corolla HB 1.8.  I wonder have you any update on Toyota's developing fittings to allow installation of a space saver wheel in the 1.8 HB?

Thanks again.

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[DJF 42]

On 9/18/2020 at 9:19 AM, Timmon said:

My view would be normal, it is just surface rust, and it will take many years before causing a problem. Consider that, when it rains overnight, you will see quite a lot of rust on your brake disks before you set off in the morning, after just a few hours damp. The wheel hub will be wet a lot longer, so surface rust is bound to appear. I would not worry at all.

I was told many years ago by an old time chauffeur to put a thin smear of general purpose grease on the hub inside the diameter of the studs. Not only does it prevent the formation of surface rust, not a problem as has been said, but it helps to keep the wheel free when having to do a change such as when getting a puncture. Nothing worse than having the wheel stuck on the hub through rust fusing the two together.

[TonyHSD]

1 hour ago, DJF 42 said:

I was told many years ago by an old time chauffeur to put a thin smear of general purpose grease on the hub inside the diameter of the studs. Not only does it prevent the formation of surface rust, not a problem as has been said, but it helps to keep the wheel free when having to do a change such as when getting a puncture. Nothing worse than having the wheel stuck on the hub through rust fusing the two together.

Hi, using lubricant on these places can be a huge mistake. Do not use any lubricant and particularly any grease because this will cause vibrations and you will end up with a lots of trouble. As the picture shows some rust , best way is to clean the rust with  metal wire brush made from slightly softer material than the wheel hub, clean the wheel surfaces too and DO NOT apply any lube, fit nice and clean, torque to specs cross pattern 102 Nm. On Toyota brakes never use any lube anywhere except silicone grease on the slider pins on the callipers, that’s it 👍 

[Woofwoof]

You can spec a space saver wheel when ordering even the hb 

It does reduce boot space majorly like the 2.0 (though there is no lid lip)

if you just get the trk there is space in the moulding for a scissor jack and a spanner

I’d suggest going for the regular trk and buying a jack and spanner and get a spare wheel in a bag with Velcro and keep it in the boot on the floor (Velcro will stop it sliding around) and when you need the extra space just pull it out

[Rosgoe]

On 8/19/2020 at 8:16 PM, Devon Aygo said:

1.8 Touring sport is simple to add a Spare wheel the Hatchback is another storey, Toyota initially made a kit available but it has been withdrawn as it was not fitting correctly, further investigation found way more parts than initially thought would be required, Total parts count is 27 items and the retail price is over £2k and some parts are not easily available, so considering the price and parts availability Toyota are investigating alternative options.

Yes I enquired for my hatchback parts guy said you wouldn’t want to anyway was the best part of £1000!!

[Woofwoof]

 

On 7/9/2019 at 3:01 PM, Korgrocker said:

I've just taken delivery of a 2019 Corolla Design 1.8 Hybrid TRK. TRK indeed! The dealer suggested that if I couldn't use the useless tyre repair kit, I instead use the breakdown cover if I have a puncture but in rural Scotland that could be a very long wait for a repair. I was quoted silly money from the dealer for a space saver steel wheel so I found the wheel geometry somewhere and it's the same as an Auris Space saver. So I purchased the Auris one and it fits both the wheel studs and under the boot floor. I placed the order on Friday at 4pm and delivered via DHL the following Tuesday.

Purchased from The Wheel Shop. https://www.thewheelshop.co.uk/toyota-auris-space-saver-spare-wheel-17-and-tool-kit.html

Don't forget you'll need the retaining bolt.

Is the boot floor slightly raised now, or did it fit under the carpet?

[pezz]

On 7/18/2019 at 5:30 PM, Sidrat said:

It's not an option on the Design for some weird reason that I have never had a suitable answer for.  Dealership does not know why and I did not get an answer from a query I sent to Toyota UK.

Hi Sidrat ,I,very got 2020 design hatchback with repair kit but as everyone do not feel safe without a spare. I had the same with the auris before and purchased the spare & jack plus brace,when trading I removed them.they fit the corolla to get out of trouble but I can't fit the spare in the wheel shaped boot floor I suspect it's because the correct ones look aluminium and must be a little smaller. We'll cos I,m concerned about waiting for brakedown services I just ride with it in the boot. 

[TazUddin]

On 9/17/2020 at 2:41 PM, Tapastourist said:

Looks like I'm going to answer my own query as I have just gone through the Toyota car ordering procedure and it appears the boot has two height positions.

Lower position is for 1.8L with tyre repair kit. The higher position is for 2.0L because of bigger battery and also 1.8L with spacesaver  !!!! nowhere do Toyota mention this when quoting boot space !

I ordered my 1.8 design hybrid 2019 hatchback with the spare wheel. Boot is raised in line with the mouth of the boot. Same as my last car. Prius 1.8 hybrid 

[wilbobp]

Hello Looking at the spare wheel kit from The Wheel Shop for my 1.8 hatchback. Does the spare wheel fit in the well leaving the boot floor flat.

Does the wheel brace fit the alloy wheel security bolts?

 

Many thanks

 

 

[pezz]

Hi mate ,my wheel is from my auris, I kept it. 

It fits the wheel studs OK but will not fit in the wheel well .so I just lay it in the boot, ( it's a pain ,and untidy but am old school and fear unrepairable punchers. 

[TonyHSD]

There are other posts available with information about all the parts you need to ride the floor level so you can fit space saver correctly in 1.8 hatchback. Also will make boot and rear seats flat loader for longer items when needed, this is perhaps the most useful extra for all hatchbacks. 👍

[StreetHawk]

There is 15% off the Official Toyota store on eBay at the moment if your after the spare wheel and other bits. I bought the spare wheel and tools for about £95 delivered. 

[50p]

Are the Auris and Corolla space savers the same size? Thinking more about the height, when it is laying flat on the foor.

[BazzerH]

well having had a puncture this weekend i decided while i was at it to test if a fully inflated full size wheel would fit in the well designed for space saver and it does so im just looking now to find a spare alloy the same as the one i got then going to get tyre on it and have that in car (mine is a taxi and its against licensing rules to work with space saver on) only thing i will lose is the tool tray but not really a biggie if it means i can continue working ;-)

[pezz]

3 hours ago, BazzerH said:

well having had a puncture this weekend i decided while i was at it to test if a fully inflated full size wheel would fit in the well designed for space saver and it does so im just looking now to find a spare alloy the same as the one i got then going to get tyre on it and have that in car (mine is a taxi and its against licensing rules to work with space saver on) only thing i will lose is the tool tray but not really a biggie if it means i can continue working ;-)

Sounds reassuring, thanks for the info good look.

[pezz]

13 hours ago, 50p said:

Are the Auris and Corolla space savers the same size? Thinking more about the height, when it is laying flat on the foor.

Hi mate .when I went looking for a car to replace the auris and paranoid regarding no spares, I looked at all they had regarding spare & space .

Some had spare,s and some not .

The one I remember looked aluminium, the car I bought is a design ( no spare) I did keep my auris spacesaver, so tried it. Wheel centre fit and to my mind studs clamp it down safely, jack lowered all cleared on front &rear ,but haven't run the car.

In design I just can't get this wheel in wheelwell because of a lip on back valance and don't want to mod it ,so put it in boot,it's a pain but reluctant to drive without it. 

[Roy124]

With the space saver it is essential to be able to stow the full size wheel in the boot.  One car, the stowage could only take the space saver.  At least they provided a bag for the dirty, punctured wheel.

Worth remembering, if you are going to change the wheel yourself, include gloves, wipes, towel, waterproofs etc with the kit. 

 

[TonyHSD]

And one more thing about Space savers, mount only on rear axle, if you have a puncture on the front tyres lift up the car more so you have both front and rear wheels off the ground and swap the tyres so drive axle always has same size tyres, otherwise you are putting a huge stress and heat on transmission, particularly differential bearings and gears. , this can be felt immediately after driving off like whining noises, and do not exceed the max speed allowed 50mph. 👍

[Geoff W]

1 hour ago, TonyHSD said:

And one more thing about Space savers, mount only on rear axle, if you have a puncture on the front tyres lift up the car more so you have both front and rear wheels off the ground and swap the tyres so drive axle always has same size tyres, otherwise you are putting a huge stress and heat on transmission, particularly differential bearings and gears. , this can be felt immediately after driving off like whining noises, and do not exceed the max speed allowed 50mph. 👍

Interesting! I've always assumed that whilst being a lot narrower space savers had the same rolling diameter as the standard tyres. I hope I never have to rely on this tip!