2002 Yaris Verso 1.3vvti compatible replacement gearbox / Possible fix ?

[costellon]

Hi,

I have a 2002 Yaris Verso 1.3vvti and the worn synchro in the manual 5 speed gearbox has started to annoy me. At least I think it's the synchro and a few mechanic buddies have also told me it was - BUT - perhaps the diagnosis is incorrect and it's an easy fix ? Perhaps someone has had a similar problem and solved it by using other means ?

Sometimes it's very difficult to get it into first and sometimes first to second is difficult. I have checked and lubricated the linkages (perfect) and changed the gear oil twice (mineral and synth - no improvement with either). The clutch is brand new and properly bled. I bought it like this and have lived with it for almost a year, but it's time to fix it.

Does anyone know if my replacement gearbox has to be specifically from a Yaris Verso 1.3 vvti or are there any other manual gearboxes off any other Toyota that would be fully compatible / identical ?

Any other comments ?

Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks

Nick

[flash22]

the oly way to tell is looking at the numbers on the gearbox iirc are on the front side of the casting

[Madasafish]

First thing: " it's very difficult to get it into first and sometimes first to second is difficult"

Has the clutch been bled?

It uses the same Reservoir  as the brakes but has a separate bleed nipple on the clutch slave cylinder.  

Bleed as bleeding brakes. But pressing clutch rather than brake pedal.

No-one ever bleeds the clutch but if you do a brake fluid change, it is possible this will introduce air into the clutch brake line...

Edit: been there, done it...

[costellon]

1 hour ago, Madasafish said:

First thing: " it's very difficult to get it into first and sometimes first to second is difficult"

Has the clutch been bled?

It uses the same Reservoir  as the brakes but has a separate bleed nipple on the clutch slave cylinder.  

Bleed as bleeding brakes. But pressing clutch rather than brake pedal.

No-one ever bleeds the clutch but if you do a brake fluid change, it is possible this will introduce air into the clutch brake line...

Edit: been there, done it...

Hi, thanks for your reply. Yes, the clutch slave and master cylinders have been flushed and bled, first thing I did actually - great minds think alike ... hehe.

Even when i'm having difficulty finding first/ shifting to second - if I pump the clutch pedal several times and hold it in it doesnt make any difference. I presume that the PO replaced the clutch thinking that that was the underlying problem with the difficult selection.

Thanks again

[costellon]

4 hours ago, flash22 said:

the oly way to tell is looking at the numbers on the gearbox iirc are on the front side of the casting

Hi Flash, I thought I replied to your post earlier, I must have hit the wrong button .....

Where exactly are the numbers stamped on the gearbox ? You said front side .... is that the radiator side ?

Thanks

[flash22]

It's either a C54 or C154 listed numbers are

30300-52081 or 30300-52082

numbers are on the front or top of the casting as you are looking at it from the front of the car

[costellon]

15 minutes ago, flash22 said:

It's either a C54 or C154 listed numbers are

30300-52081 or 30300-52082

numbers are on the front or top of the casting as you are looking at it from the front of the car

It'll be tomorrow before I can take a good look as the car has been commandeered for the evening by the powers that be. I'm presuming that I have to remove the air filter assembly and its under that ? I had a quick look earlier but saw nothing as the throttle body, hoses and the air filter assy were obscuring much of the gearbox.

Thanks

[corradovr6]

Interesting thread. Just thinking of alternative (newer) gearboxes that would fit. Presumably there must be some compatibility between other Toyota gearboxes from the newer cars?

 

[corradovr6]

Perhaps not then.

Anyway, I've put one washer in the tensioning bolt as two were hindering engaging 4th gear.

will upload pics later

[G6-R]

https://www.schadeautos.nl/nl/demontage/personenautos/toyota-yaris-verso-1-3-16v/o/998308

only for parts

in the netherlands

[corradovr6]

22 hours ago, corradovr6 said:

Perhaps not then.

Anyway, I've put one washer in the tensioning bolt as two were hindering engaging 4th gear.

will upload pics later

two pics - one showing the location of the bolt (just in case its not known), and the other with two washers on it (i then removed one)