Yaris Cross - delivery, etc .......

[anchorman]

On 6/19/2023 at 8:14 AM, Dezzer21 said:

Car arrived in Grimsby yesterday now in transit to Derbyshire won’t be long now.

If you didn’t order any accessories.  You might be lucky but they will try to fill a transporter to your dealer and if they are waiting for other models, you’ll have to wait.  Fingers crossed, yours is the last one they are waiting for!

[CruxisCore]

I do kinda have to say I've had my share of french cars and there wont be another (altho technically the Yaris Cross is made in france, but yeah :P)

I find myself surprised how car reviewers almost always compare the Yaris Cross to cars in the segment, but ones that are petrol only. I guess power train isn't the highest priority to everyone, but for me right now it automatically rules out an alternative if it's an ICE car only.

[Primus1]

Had an email this morning from my dealer, apparently they’re expecting it this week although it’s showing on the app still at zeebrugge, going to pop in this afternoon to sort out collection..😁

[Knorton]

1 hour ago, Primus1 said:

Had an email this morning from my dealer, apparently they’re expecting it this week although it’s showing on the app still at zeebrugge, going to pop in this afternoon to sort out collection..😁

Good for you. I contacted the dealer as the order had vanished of off My Toyota web page! he sent the screen shot on the latest they have, an ETA of the 18/08/23 and Int Reg 30/08/23 so I asked for it to held for the new September registration unless they can give me an incentive not to😁

Kev.

[dcweather]

6 hours ago, anchorman said:

It wasn’t a mistake.  I get weary of these car reviews when they show French cars as alternatives in the summing up.  The French are good at styling and that’s it.  They are only good at cooking if you want to hang it on the wall but useless if you are hungry.  All of the French brands are OK if you buy cars on a PCP but if you keep them for any length of time they are a ticking bomb.  Same to a lesser extent for the German brands - but they are fantastic when new and not mediocre.  The Japanese are the masters of mass production.  They tend to have bland styling but longevity comes as standard.

 

Not intended to offend you mate, it’s just years of being in the motor industry.

I wasn't offended, just didn't agree with your dismissal of the hybrid Captur. It will always be horses for courses. For me it is the most comfortable, plush and well equipped and most economical (barring the Yaris) of those I tried. And of course considerably cheaper for the top of the range. I only keep my car for a max of three years but am surprised if it is known "in the trade" that i am getting such a high residual.  "people in the trade" were the same people still slagging off Skoda and Toyota (Japanese junk) back in the day after they had been transformed. Just for the record we also have an 8 year old Toyota Yaris hybrid which has certainly passed the test of time with flying colours and why I am on here considering a Yaris Cross. Out of interest what similar size and price SUV full hybrids under 30k do you recommend?

[Primus1]

Great news.!

car will be ready for collection on 1st July, yay😆😁😄

[Xerapin]

3 minutes ago, Primus1 said:

Great news.!

car will be ready for collection on 1st July, yay😆😁😄

Wooh! I got a phone call today to square away some of the finance paperwork, its been in the country since the end of May, can't be long left now! 😄

[Primus1]

2 hours ago, Xerapin said:

Wooh! I got a phone call today to square away some of the finance paperwork, its been in the country since the end of May, can't be long left now! 😄

It might be ready at the same time as mine, I hope it is…👍

[anchorman]

12 hours ago, dcweather said:

I wasn't offended, just didn't agree with your dismissal of the hybrid Captur. It will always be horses for courses. For me it is the most comfortable, plush and well equipped and most economical (barring the Yaris) of those I tried. And of course considerably cheaper for the top of the range. I only keep my car for a max of three years but am surprised if it is known "in the trade" that i am getting such a high residual.  "people in the trade" were the same people still slagging off Skoda and Toyota (Japanese junk) back in the day after they had been transformed. Just for the record we also have an 8 year old Toyota Yaris hybrid which has certainly passed the test of time with flying colours and why I am on here considering a Yaris Cross. Out of interest what similar size and price SUV full hybrids under 30k do you recommend?

It’s a good question.  I was guilty of mocking Japanese cars in the 70s when they first became popular and Datsun and Toyota started to get people’s attention.  My brother worked in a BL dealership and I spent a lot of time there waiting for him while he was mending newly delivered cars on overtime.   It was corrosion that spoiled these Japanese products but unlike the U.K. brands they worked on a solution and not only was the product right but so was the attitude of the people making them.   What would I recommend at a similar price?   To be honest, if I was planning on keeping a car any appreciable length of time, there is nothing I would choose over any Toyota, Mazda or Lexus   They can’t be touched for dependability and they have just about perfected the hybrid powertrain.  It would be interesting to see these JD Power surveys done for 3, 5 and 10 year old cars so the owners of second hand cars can get a feel for ownership because that’s when they show their colours, not during a 3 year PCP.  in answer to your question, your comment about “in my opinion” matters because it probably isn’t relevant!, you can have what you like for those first 3 years.   Toyota/Lexus obsession with over bolstered seats hampers my opinion of them and therefore anything with a comfortable seat but I have one because I know it is going to be trouble free in age.  

[Yugguy1970]

18 hours ago, dcweather said:

I wasn't offended, just didn't agree with your dismissal of the hybrid Captur. It will always be horses for courses. For me it is the most comfortable, plush and well equipped and most economical (barring the Yaris) of those I tried. And of course considerably cheaper for the top of the range. I only keep my car for a max of three years but am surprised if it is known "in the trade" that i am getting such a high residual.  "people in the trade" were the same people still slagging off Skoda and Toyota (Japanese junk) back in the day after they had been transformed. Just for the record we also have an 8 year old Toyota Yaris hybrid which has certainly passed the test of time with flying colours and why I am on here considering a Yaris Cross. Out of interest what similar size and price SUV full hybrids under 30k do you recommend?

My inlaws have just bought a 22 plate YC and are absolutely loving it. 

For them the fact that apart from the hybrid tech it isnt all touchscreen and bleeding edge haptic feedback and all that, is perfect.  It's comfy, reliable, not too big, so easy to drive and a decent turn of speed if needed.

[TonyHSD]

+1  for the posts above 👍 

My personal opinion is that the only cars that burns petrol and worth having one these days are Toyota/Lexus. All others except full evs are miles behind in terms of simplicity, drivability, efficiency and reliability., it’s like a centuries difference between. 
I have a hybrid from 2010 that in the last few years was used properly 30-50k miles per year , 200+ miles every day and this car still drives like new plus the fuel consumption is unaffected by the age or mileage. And btw still on its original batteries, both of them. When dies will buy another Toyota hybrid but until then there is no need of a replacement. 👌

[CruxisCore]

There's a few of you getting you Yaris Crosses soon. If possible, it would be interesting to know what the Battery voltage is when it gets delivered. If I was the dealer and knew about some of the 12v issues id make sure to charge the Battery before delivery, but it would be interesting the know the voltage especially if dealer has not charged it.

[glencrannog]

Makes me remember when looking at the Yaris Cross, the one next along was being jump started! Remember commenting that that didn't look too clever. (it was a new model).

[CruxisCore]

50 minutes ago, glencrannog said:

Makes me remember when looking at the Yaris Cross, the one next along was being jump started! Remember commenting that that didn't look too clever. (it was a new model).

I've had the dealer kinda check the Battery level on most new Toyotas I've went to test drive. In the showroom the keys are usually in the car and that kinda keeps the system awake all the time. It's probably more than just that (like this 12v issue) but its clear that these keyless entry and start cars will definitely use the 12v alot when they are 24/7 with the key inside

[CruxisCore]

Mine is still not being built, but I guess that is to be expected with late august ETA 😄

Meanwhile I'm just watching this thing, has rather similar spec to what I'll get.. one day 😄

It's funny that I was having trouble deciding a color for a long time. The dark grey was kinda winning, but then again it felt a little bland. I really love the 2-tone blue and black on CHR but it somehow didnt work on Yaris Cross. Suddenly I was like wait, this is the color and went with the brass gold with black roof
 

 

[isnsiie]

after two welcome email in pass 2 week2, my order changed to build today. The original ETA is end of this year. It maybe sooner now? 

[Primus1]

1 hour ago, isnsiie said:

after two welcome email in pass 2 week2, my order changed to build today. The original ETA is end of this year. It maybe sooner now? 

I was told that once you get the notification of being built , it’s about two weeks before delivery, this seems to be the case as i received a build in progress on the 9th, dealer said they’re expecting to get the car either this friday( two weeks) or Monday, for me to collect on the 1st..I think the app is a little bit behind..

[CruxisCore]

The tracking usually works a bit backwards anyways. When it says it's being built, it's most likely already built. When it says Zeebrugge or whatever, it usually means it left the place already.

However that's still a different kinda scenario if you were promised that late and getting that early. But yeah, probably just about anywhere in the world in tops 2 months from when tracking says its being built.

[Xerapin]

18 hours ago, Primus1 said:

I was told that once you get the notification of being built , it’s about two weeks before delivery, this seems to be the case as i received a build in progress on the 9th, dealer said they’re expecting to get the car either this friday( two weeks) or Monday, for me to collect on the 1st..I think the app is a little bit behind..

Different to what I've been told, I was told once it departs the factory its 4-6 weeks away from delivery (but there are some delays on the ports at the moment too apparently). But then mine has apparently been in the UK For nearly a month now and I've not got it yet. For reference being told it was being built, to being told it as in the UK was around 4 weeks I think for me, but I don't have access to the tracking data in the app either.

[CruxisCore]

1 minute ago, Xerapin said:

Different to what I've been told, I was told once it departs the factory its 4-6 weeks away from delivery (but there are some delays on the ports at the moment too apparently). But then mine has apparently been in the UK For nearly a month now and I've not got it yet. For reference being told it was being built, to being told it as in the UK was around 4 weeks I think for me, but I don't have access to the tracking data in the app either.

You can dig up some extra information from the sites html-code on the website which might give you more info about it's whereabouts and ETAs. It's silly how the website has a lot of relevant info that the customer can't see (unless digging around in the code)

[RonYarisX]

On 6/21/2023 at 11:34 AM, TonyHSD said:

+1  for the posts above 👍 

My personal opinion is that the only cars that burns petrol and worth having one these days are Toyota/Lexus. All others except full evs are miles behind in terms of simplicity, drivability, efficiency and reliability., it’s like a centuries difference between.

 

On 6/21/2023 at 12:00 PM, CruxisCore said:

There's a few of you getting you Yaris Crosses soon. If possible, it would be interesting to know what the battery voltage is when it gets delivered. If I was the dealer and knew about some of the 12v issues id make sure to charge the battery before delivery, but it would be interesting the know the voltage especially if dealer has not charged it.

Just about fell of my seat laughing. It only took the very next thread to dismiss all four -  simplicity, drivability, efficiency and reliability tabs. 🤣

I've lost count how many new cars our family has had over the years and not one of them has failed to start when I turned the key or pushed the start button.

So to comment on another post above, never read about Renault having issues with their hybrid batteries draining to the point where it fails to start the engine.

 

[CruxisCore]

Just now, RonYarisX said:

 

Just about fell of my seat laughing. It only took the very next thread to dismiss all four -  simplicity, drivability, efficiency and reliability tabs. 🤣

I've lost count how many new cars our family has had over the years and not one of them has failed to start when I turned the key or pushed the start button.

So to comment on another post above, never read about Renault having issues with their hybrid batteries draining to the point where it fails to start the engine.

 

It's not the hybrid Battery draining, but the 12v. Which is kinda common with current full hybrids loaded with tech. Given, it may be that Toyota may have made a bad call with either the 12v Battery type or the DC-DC thing charging it. That said, a problem with the 12v is probably the better one to have. Fixing the engine or actually faulty electronics gets kinda more expensive.

Anyways, there's an 80 page thread about that so probably not worth taking this thread there as well.

[CruxisCore]

Can't edit any more, but just to add:

Forums like these are always a skewed take on anything. Most people (and that really is vast majority) arn't coming on forums to say how good their car is to drive. But when a problem comes up, they come asking for advice or help or whatever. That's why forums like these, regardless or topic or brand, always give out a worse image than the reality.

Now, all it takes is one googling "Most reliable car brands" and you will quickly notice that almost every listing is dominated by Toyota (and Lexus which is Toyota...) and well, after shuffling though 2 pages of google searches, not one of those listings had a PSA or Renault car in the top 10. I'm not brand loyal (even to Toyota even if im here, its just what I drive atm) and I dont care about these ****** contests between brands. But I'm pretty sure there are cold hard facts and statistics on this topic and Toyota will win Renault on it for the time being hands down. But yes, new Renaults really do win on the interior/polish kinda things, but its also clear Toyota isnt focusing on it cos they probably want to save that for Lexus

[dcweather]

Yes - I'm half hopening the Yaris Cross ride and engine smoothness will be slightly better than my Captur. Her 2014 hybrid Icon is basic in comparison comfort wise but it is somewhat more fun to drive despite being slower. The Renault petrol engine always sounds a bit like there is a hole in he exhaust when you push it making a rasping sound. The best petrol engine I've ever had for sheer power, smoothness and quiet and economical was in my Audi A3 with 1.0 TSi turbo engine. I wish they would put engines like that in hybrids but they must have their reasons for needing more clunky 1.5l ? Will I notice any differences with the current Yaris petrol engine compared to the 2014 version?

[CruxisCore]

9 hours ago, dcweather said:

Yes - I'm half hopening the Yaris Cross ride and engine smoothness will be slightly better than my Captur. Her 2014 hybrid Icon is basic in comparison comfort wise but it is somewhat more fun to drive despite being slower. The Renault petrol engine always sounds a bit like there is a hole in he exhaust when you push it making a rasping sound. The best petrol engine I've ever had for sheer power, smoothness and quiet and economical was in my Audi A3 with 1.0 TSi turbo engine. I wish they would put engines like that in hybrids but they must have their reasons for needing more clunky 1.5l ? Will I notice any differences with the current Yaris petrol engine compared to the 2014 version?

1 litre turbos are definitely fun, but it's usually under pretty heavy wear and tear. I'm pretty sure Toyota avoids them cos they are almost inevitably not as durable longer in their life compared to naturally aspirated ICEs

And the other aspect is that if/when the car is a hybrid, you get the immediate response of an electric car when stepping on the pedal at least from a full stop. Of course a turbo will probably win when accelerating to highway speeds. In comparison the Ford Puma mild hybrid with a 1 litre turbo ICE does 0-60 in like 9s and that number is around 11s (found 10,1 as well as 11,8 and everything in between).

 For me the Yaris Cross was the best test drive experience I've had yet. Which is why I ordered one. I test drove some 5-10 year old Volvos and Mercs, several Toyotas and the Yaris Cross won hands down. I suppose something like a RAV4 mightve pulled ahead but it also costs like 20k more and tbh its a big car and I dont really want that. The only real downsides I personally felt were the tyre and engine noise, and tbh neither was bad, but then again Im currently driving a leased Aygo so I'm used to it 😄