How do 2nd generation Avensis models compare to early 3rd ones in reliability?

[ToyotaGang]

Listen. Do you really want a CVT without the launch gear over a lovely standard 6 speed manuel? 

These CVT in the Avensis does not have the launch gear like the new ones do have. 

But the clucth is lovely on the manual diesel models.

[Heidfirst]

16 hours ago, ToyotaGang said:

It's pretty much down to what people like.

I agree which is why I said pick your own poison etc. But do it from an informed pov of the various pros & cons. according to your own requirements.

But Heidfirst I have 17 years ownership and the AD series never had any issues with head gasket unless u overheat the engine or not look after it and service it. 

That'll be why Toyota issued service bulletins & spent many thousands of £s etc. replacing gaskets, heads, pistons & even complete "bare" engines foc to owners & also had a change in production design/materials. 

And I don't agree with u saying the 1.8 147 hp is as fast as the 2.2 DCAT 177 hp and fatser than the 1ad. Yes the 2.0 td has less horsepower but more torque and a turbocharger that makes the car produce more acceleration than the 1.8 . The 2.2 without traction goes 0-60 in 7 seconds which is way faster compared to the 1.8 which does it in 9-10 sec. 

I didn't say that the 1.8 147bhp was as fast as the 2.2 177bhp 2AD-FHV, I said that it had as much power as the 2.2 2AD-FTV. 😉

I did mention that it had less torque by not being forced induction. Iirc the official 0-60 figures of the manual 2AD-FHV Avensis is 7.9s, the 2ZR-FAE Avensis 9.4s. However, at no point has Fjord brought up rapid acceleration as a requirement whereas when he mentioned towing I told him to get a diesel if that was a regular requirement (I woud also recommend a Touring Sport over a saloon).

 

[Heidfirst]

1 hour ago, ToyotaGang said:

But the clucth is lovely on the manual diesel models.

It's certainly better than the on the 2ZR-FAE but I wouldn't go as far as calling them lovely. & the gearchange on the diesels imo isn't as nice as that on the petrol. Horses for courses again.

[ToyotaGang]

Sorry for being rude. I have must misunderstood what you meant in the beginning:) 

 

29 minutes ago, Heidfirst said:

It's certainly better than the on the 2ZR-FAE but I wouldn't go as far as calling them lovely. & the gearchange on the diesels imo isn't as nice as that on the petrol. Horses for courses again.

 

[2009joe]

On 8/11/2021 at 6:51 PM, Fjord said:

I'm considering purchasing a 3rd gen Toyota Avensis from 2009 but most of the good things I've heard about the model has been about earlier (2006-2008) 2nd gen ones. Are there any known problems I should watch out for? Or is it recommended I just get a 2nd gen?

Also, in regards to engines I'm looking at a 1.8 petrol version since I've heard that engine is really fantastic in the >2005 2nd generation vehicles, maybe it is with the 3rd gen vehicles as well?

Thanks in advance for any help you might lend!

u not fancy a 3rd  gen 2.0 d4d one with a 1adftv engine 

[essldn]

I just bought a 6 speed 2018 1.6D and its very smooth and quiet inside. I'm pretty happy with it.