Which Oil for a 2009 Plate?

[Steve2022]

Hi, which oil is recommended for Northern UK climate for a 2009 1.0 Petrol?

Was going to order 5w30 but then I've seen discussions about 0w20 from posts back in 2011 etc.. 

Which is best?

Thanks

[Stivino]

2 minutes ago, Steve2022 said:

Which is best?

The one your handbook recommends.

[Steve2022]

3 minutes ago, Stivino said:

The one your handbook recommends.

Didn't get a handbook with it lol 😞

[Stivino]

Put you reg number in here.

 

[Steve2022]

18 minutes ago, Stivino said:

Put you reg number in here.

 

Tried this but on a manual search as my plate didn't bring any up and upto 2009 it was 5w30 and 2009 onwards 0w20 

 

My car is a 59 plate so guessing I'm in the 0w20 class?

[FROSTYBALLS]

Toyota specify oils for use across the whole of the UK, so don't differentiate between the North and South. Toyota introduced their Optimal Drive engine modifications to the Aygo early 2009, so Toyita's preferred oil will be 0W-20.

[furtula]

Considering the age, and if the car is some 100k miles or more, i'd go with 5W30.

[Stivino]

Just now, furtula said:

Considering the age, and if the car is some 100k miles or more, i'd go with 5W30.

As far as I can remember, Toyota don't specify a different grade as the mileage increases. Q.E.D.

[Roy124]

Is the car burning oil?  I used to use the lowest SAE recommended but with my penultimate Mercedes oil burn was approaching 300 miles per pint. 

The car was 15 years old with 150k miles and my garage recommended a much higher viscosity.  Oil burn was much reduced.  

Given a 12 year old car you need to consider its milage and age and perhaps go for a higher viscosity. 

[Stivino]

Just now, Roy124 said:

iven a 12 year old car you need to consider its milage and age and perhaps go for a higher viscosity.

Not according to the manufacturers.

[TonyHSD]

It will depend of the reasons why the engine burns oil in some cases thicker oil may help but in most cases it will not., perhaps may lead to more trouble. In general best to stick with what manufacturer recommended. My car currently at 183k miles and 11 years old only consumes 500-600ml of oil between changes of 10k miles. ,the oil that I use since 2016 is Petronas synthium 0w20. , before that was Toyota oil 0w20 according to the service history. There are some good quality additives that may help better if you use them instead of thicker oil, additives that does not change viscosity but can rejuvenate rubber seals , or can eventually clean piston rings and oil passages. 👍

[Steve2022]

Thanks. No it's not burning oil or leaking, infact the level hasnt really dropped at all.

 

Will try the 0w20

Is there a specific manufacturer  rated 0w20 to go with eg C2 rated or what ever etc?

Thanks

[FROSTYBALLS]

13 minutes ago, Steve2022 said:

Is there a specific manufacturer  rated 0w20 to go with eg C2 rated or what ever etc?

Oil should be 0W-20 to API SL, SM, SN or SP specification.

No specific manufacturer. Some members use Petronas Syntium. Just go for whatever oil is within the above specification and is within your budget.

[Steve2022]

3 minutes ago, FROSTYBALLS said:

Oil should be 0W-20 to API SL, SM, SN or SP specification.

No specific manufacturer. Some members use Petronas Syntium. Just go for whatever oil is within the above specification and is within your budget.

Thanks, another question, the Citroën C1 oil recommendation seems to be 5w30 and Toyota Aygo 0w20 yet aren't they the exact same engine???

[FROSTYBALLS]

As, I said earlier, Toyota introduced engine modifications under their Optimal Drive programme to the Aygo engine in 2009, and I'm not sure these were carried over to the Citroen/Peugeot offerings. 

Toyota's preferred oil changed at this point and became 0W-20.

[Roy124]

Tony, my garage were Mercedes specialists and it was not a snap suggestion. 

As Steve says, it's not burning oil which removes that from the equation. 

[TonyHSD]

I think in the aygo from 2009 you can use either of the grades without any worries since it’s not a hybrid car and the engine will not keep turning on and off on regular basis., but the advice from Stephen is the best one ., whatever is in the book. 👍

[FROSTYBALLS]

Just now, TonyHSD said:

whatever is in the book

In the book it will say that 0W-20 is the preferred oil. 5W-30 may be used, but should be replaced with 0W-20 at the next service.

[Catlover]

So, 0w-20 it is…….. that is if it was my car.

[Vandals01]

Either will be fine.

5w30 will gives better protection once it warms up. It will also makes the engine more quiet and less shakey at idle.

0w20 will gives more protection at start-up. It will also gives the best fuel economy.

I'm currently using 5w30 C3 on my 2012 Aygo.  Will be using 0w20 in my next oil change (see how much it can improve on fuel consumption).

[furtula]

Sky won't fall down if you don't respect the manual like it's a bible.

5W30 gives you better lubrication with some 2% worse MPG compared to 0W20

Both oils are ok to be used as per manual, so it's up to you.

[ihpj]

OP, asking that type of question on an owners forum will get you a variety of responses. Some will religiously stick by the Handbook, some will apply their own judgements and offer advice based on their experience, some will offer an educated opinion - but at the end of the day there will be a range of opinions.

If your car ain’t broke, keep using what has been used all these years. You don’t want to go changing oil viscosity after 10+ years of using a particular grade and type.

I’ve used fully synthetic Castrol Edge 5W30 from the first service of our facelift 2009/09. This is BMW LL04 spec. oil (also has VAG type approval) and it’s what Costco has. Used it in all my cars…is it type approved by Toyota? Not sure, don’t care. It’s good quality oil and I have never had any issues with it in any of my cars.

I’ll bet many people who get their Aygo serviced don’t know what oil their garage has used in the first place.

Love your Aygo, enjoy your Aygo and if you really want to, do an extra oil change.

[steveo3002]

5/30 also gives you a better choice of products and is cheaper , thats what id run and then go thicker if /when it starts to use it 

its a old design crude engine , some people go on like its a high tech racing car , the most important thing to do is change it on or before time an check the level often..too many get left to run dry   

[fordulike]

Just to add to this topic, my Toyota dealer uses Mobil ESP 5W-30.

I've noticed negligible oil useage between yearly services and don't need to top up. Car is on 45k miles.

[TonyHSD]

Since been talking about oils here its an interesting video about them