Wind Noise from B Pillar above 60mph (2021 Yaris)

[GR Weasel]

Does anyone else get a little wind noise from the b pillar area both driver and passenger side at high speeds ? Is it normal?

Sounds like if the window is not completely closed, it's not that loud and is quite faint but just wondering If it's normal.

[Ian saunders]

Asked the same question yesterday , i had a test drive no radio on ,car generally very quiet but felt the same at speed ,positives outway the negative ? 

[RickyC]

What do you mean with B pillar? The pillar between front and back door.

If so I'm pleased that someone else is noting it.  I've asked to other Yaris owners but they didn't note it.  I've also asked Toyota assistance to check but they didn't find nothing strange.  

I've checked right rear back door gaskets (  you probably are hearing the noise coming from left one due to reversed drive position ) but they seem ok.

Unluckily when I've made test drive, windows had to be open due to Covid rules so it was impossible to note a similar issue.  I think that it's caused by a bad acoustic isolation on back wheel arches.

[GR Weasel]

I notice that the rubber seals around the doors are not glued on, dunno if thats nromal, can just peel them off with ease. Its not a big issue but i can imagine on longer motorway journeys the noise would  get annoying. 

I never noticed it in the previous yaris (y20) but do in this one.

[TonyHSD]

Anyone happy to record the noise on a video and share with others? Wind noises are not something unusual for Toyota cars especially on motorway speeds, although should be some sort of acceptance, if too bad Toyota should look into it. Vw polo for example drives better than Corolla and it’s probably quieter than Camry when you cruise on motorway, but that is typical for German cars. 👍

[FCL]

On 9/8/2021 at 10:58 AM, GR Weasel said:

I notice that the rubber seals around the doors are not glued on, dunno if thats nromal, can just peel them off with ease. Its not a big issue but i can imagine on longer motorway journeys the noise would  get annoying. 

I never noticed it in the previous yaris (y20) but do in this one.

The rubber seal is also not glued on on the driver door of my new Yaris. The wind noise probably came through the gap in the seal when driving at higher speed. Has anyone find a way to fix the seal to the door?

[Yaris Hybrid 2021]

i think the hiss comes from the driver's window. really poor toyota quality

has anyone tried wind deflectors

[Bernard Foy]

I don’t notice any unusual wind noise, I would expect wind noise to increase as speed gets increasingly higher.

[corradovr6]

If you have an air compressor you can try and replicate the wind noise in the offending area by blowing across the seal with the air gun attachment.  It could/should give an indication of the potential problem area - assuming its the seals of course.

[GR Weasel]

I've been using tape to try and find the source of the noise but had no luck, taped the entire gap between the front and rear door. Taped the gap between window and the door and but some D rubber seals down the b pillar and around the top of the door. 

Might be coming from somewhere else but is just escaping near the b pillar. 

Will be hard to record the noise while driving unless I can get someone do it from the passenger seat as I'm pretty sure it comes from both sides. Or sit behind the driver seat.

[TonyHSD]

1 hour ago, GR Weasel said:

I've been using tape to try and find the source of the noise but had no luck, taped the entire gap between the front and rear door. Taped the gap between window and the door and but some D rubber seals down the b pillar and around the top of the door. 

Might be coming from somewhere else but is just escaping near the b pillar. 

Will be hard to record the noise while driving unless I can get someone do it from the passenger seat as I'm pretty sure it comes from both sides. Or sit behind the driver seat.

Ok, it might not be from the seals as you said. My car is very different but there is something interesting to share.  I have no noises while on motorways thankfully but when it’s windy outside and I am taking a nap in the car with seat down I can feel an air blow coming from the rear door handle , when I put my hand there I can feel a stream of air coming from behind the handle, surprisingly no noises when driving, or at least not so prominent and I can’t notice them. My gf car had her windscreen replaced and ever since there were noises and wind blow bottom left corner where the windshield meets the dashboard, what a poor workmanship done, it was so loud that you can hear loud and clear the generator whine when the car was coming into stop, it was on my list for investigation and repair but she sold the car before I had time to look into it. Maybe you can give someone else to drive and you can seat behind to look for the noise and it comes from. 👍

[GR Weasel]

34 minutes ago, TonyHSD said:

Ok, it might not be from the seals as you said. My car is very different but there is something interesting to share.  I have no noises while on motorways thankfully but when it’s windy outside and I am taking a nap in the car with seat down I can feel an air blow coming from the rear door handle , when I put my hand there I can feel a stream of air coming from behind the handle, surprisingly no noises when driving, or at least not so prominent and I can’t notice them. My gf car had her windscreen replaced and ever since there were noises and wind blow bottom left corner where the windshield meets the dashboard, what a poor workmanship done, it was so loud that you can hear loud and clear the generator whine when the car was coming into stop, it was on my list for investigation and repair but she sold the car before I had time to look into it. Maybe you can give someone else to drive and you can seat behind to look for the noise and it comes from. 👍

Thanks the for advice , going to try windscreen next see if the wind is getting into any gaps between the windshield roof and the headlining. All else fails will ring Toyota dealer and see if they know if it's a common issue. 

[Ian saunders]

A you tube video test mentioned wind at B pillar and 'across the windscreen ' ? . On my test drive only noticed the B pillar at around 60 ,felt as though window was slightly open ,which it wasn't . Rest of car was great .

[TruBlu]

On 9/7/2021 at 3:57 PM, GR Weasel said:

Does anyone else get a little wind noise from the b pillar area both driver and passenger side at high speeds ? Is it normal?

Sounds like if the window is not completely closed, it's not that loud and is quite faint but just wondering If it's normal.

I have noticed a hissing sound at speeds over 55mph but have not identified where it originates from, perhaps it does come from the B pillar. But that is a small issue compared to the road noise in the cabin , even at slow speeds I hear what sounds like a jet aircraft taking off in the distance depending on the road surface, plus the 'nock' sounds that comes through the suspension at every slight imperfection on the road surface. My car is a Yaris Dynamic, so has 17 inch wheels and sports suspension - I guess that's why this is one of the noisiest cars I've ever owned.

[poiniop]

I did around 100 km yesterday at higher speed ( 107 km/h) and also heard this noise. I checked if all the windows were completely closed, which they were, but it still felt like the driver's window was a bit open. I will probably contact Toyota, because the car isn't even 2 weeks old so that it is probably some factory problem. 

[RickyC]

I too have noticed this noise also at lower speeds ( 70-80 Km/h ) since I got the car.  I've asked to other people and only few ones notices noise. 

I've asked Toyota assistance for a check and they didn't notice anything strange.

I've 16" inch wheels

[YarisFIN]

Anyone found a way to fix this? I have the same issue on my 2021 Yaris Hybrid. Toon it to a dealer but they didn’t do anything about it.

Not quite sure whether the noise comes from the window or the gap between the fron and rear door.

[katsikaki]

Glad I found this topic. I thought I was the only one!

I have a 2021 Yaris hybrid Chic. Relatevily early on after purchasing the car new from a dealership, I decided I would install windbreaker on all of the doors' windows as I have been doing with the previous cars I owned.

Unfortunately, this did not work out well in this particular car since I would hear so much noise when I was driving at 50 miles per hour. I visited the dealership and they said that I shouldn't have installed the windbreakers because this is what hallens with this particular model (nose-wise). And so, not only I had to remove them but I also had to replace the rubber seals on all of the windows which costed 550 euro in Greece.

Anyway, since I replaced the window's rubber seals, the situation improved drastically but there is still noise coming from both the driver's and passenger's windows when driving at 60+ miles per hour. In my case, there is no glue either in the rubber seals.

The last post on this thread was one year ago so I hope someone found a solution.

[Cyker]

Alas I think it's just a characteristic of the car - I often look around at motorway speeds because it sounds like there is a window slightly open sometimes!

The funny thing is it's sealed well enough to not let water in - It was made in France so even that isn't a given..!    - so I'm not sure why it sounds like this; May be a symptom of the lack of NVH and paper-thin outer door skin?

I'd love to sit in someone's car who's installed loads of dynamat in their doors and floors to see if that made it go away...!

[TonyHSD]

Those guys who have tried to sound proof their Toyotas with adding these shiny pads on the inside doors and metal body in white has achieved almost no improvement at all. The problem with wind noise is from totally different place and yes it is from doors and windows seals. Another problem is the hard plastics used in the interior and the boot. 
These cars that sounds like windows is slightly open has gaps that let air inside the car and this is what causes the road and wind noise. To fond what and how to improve your Toyota, you need to find a friend who owns a Lexus of similar size and park next to it. Now start comparing both cars and star taking them apart peace by peace , doors, windows, seals, rubber grommets, and note the difference and what Toyota is missing, try to diy something similar and you may have achieve a better effect rather than just stick pads that does nothing but add weight, corrosion risk, invalidate your warranty, all that for one fake feeling of more solid door shut. 

[katsikaki]

I agree that deadening the car (doors,...) won't change a thing for what we are discussing. I am pretty sure the wind noise I am hearing when travelling 60+ miles per hour comes from the back top corner of the driver's door window.

I understand the difference between a Lexus and a Toyota despite being like brothers but I don't get why the MK4 Yaris has such a problem. I would prefer to pay a few more money to buy the car without this "defect" if I may call it to begin with.

[hind]

Tbh what I'm hearing is mainly noise from the wheels in my Yaris. Could it be that the doors are a little bit tighter fit and just seal a little bit better which is enough to get rid of the noise you are experiencing? Mine is Czech made. 

[TonyHSD]

Do you know that car doors aren’t static parts and they move so slightly and flex while the car is in motion. You can check that by yourself when travelling, just stick a finger into the door seal and you will notice how the door is moving against the car body and it will massage your finger. 
They can also flex tiny bit and open so slightly top corners when the car is at high speeds 60+ mph and eventually let air and noise in. Air in means noise in. And I am talking about a 1mm or less but if the seals are unable to compensate for these movements, or doors aren’t aligned properly, or for some other reason air finds it’s way in will bring noises like open windows. Door and windows seals are the biggest enemy to Toyota cars, also the door interior cards, the boot liners , the roof liners. All of these been switched to hard plastics only worsened the noise situation. 
I can assure you that adding pads will not help anything. I did research about that, these pads are added on.y at certain places to dampen noise and vibrations but there is no need to be everywhere, the only places needed to be they been already covered by the manufacturer. For example on a boot panel with 1 square meter area a pad of 30cm is enough to dampen vibrations and cancel road noise, however if the boot seals aren’t good enough, or there is a small hole somewhere unsealed, air will get in and passengers will experience increased nvh levels.