Rav4 Estimated Delivery, etc

[Akjon]

1 minute ago, sonosp said:

Ordered mine 24th Dec 2021. Dynamic HEV.

 

Still no update on delivery, was told it's not got a chassis number last week so it will be unlikely to be delivered before the end of Nov. 

 

MyT app says processing still.

 

Absolutely at my end of patience, but then again I've lasted this long. 

Mine is Excel HEV Silver Blade Colour.

My app changed to Build in Progress since Monday last week.

Hopefully I will get it by the end of November as said.

My dealership offered me another RAV Excel last week  which will be available for pick up this week but I do not like the Urban Khaki colour, so I opted to wait for my own car. 

[Hubsy]

On 9/29/2022 at 2:39 PM, Flatcoat said:

So what are you getting instead? 

Keep my present Rav4, and look around for a plug-in hybrid from another manufacturer.

[kiki184]

2 hours ago, Akjon said:

Mine is Excel HEV Silver Blade Colour.

My app changed to Build in Progress since Monday last week.

Hopefully I will get it by the end of November as said.

My dealership offered me another RAV Excel last week  which will be available for pick up this week but I do not like the Urban Khaki colour, so I opted to wait for my own car. 

Can I get that Urban Khaki please? As it is the colour I like 🙂

[Flatcoat]

2 hours ago, Hubsy said:

Keep my present Rav4, and look around for a plug-in hybrid from another manufacturer.

Your money and your choice but how long will that take? And do other PHEV’s offer a similar PHEV performance and real world range as the RAV? I extensively researched PHEVS last year and at the time the RAV real world range, usage in all weathers and general economy was unbeatable, and it is 4wd capsble which few competing PHEV’s are. 

[sonosp]

Just had a phonecall from my dealer. Toyota UK are asking that all those with finance agreements pre-march 2022 waiting for orders are re-financed.

Interest rate increase of 2%.

If it had arrived last month/now like promised it would have been cheaper. Feels like a kick in the teeth with having to wait for it for so long. Oh and no further update when it will be delivered. 

[ernieb]

6 minutes ago, sonosp said:

Just had a phonecall from my dealer. Toyota UK are asking that all those with finance agreements pre-march 2022 waiting for orders are re-financed.

Interest rate increase of 2%.

If it had arrived last month/now like promised it would have been cheaper. Feels like a kick in the teeth with having to wait for it for so long. Oh and no further update when it will be delivered. 

You might have expected Toyota to honour the previous deal as the delay is beyond your control. I’d probably see if you can negotiate some kind of middle ground?

[sonosp]

1 minute ago, ernieb said:

You might have expected Toyota to honour the previous deal as the delay is beyond your control. I’d probably see if you can negotiate some kind of middle ground?

Writing an email now - not expecting anything at all because my expectations are so very low at this point in time.

Its another hit on my credit report too which I feel just another annoyance. 

 

I'll ask for some free sidesteps or something. Works out to about £1000 over the lifetime of agreement. 

[ernieb]

1 minute ago, sonosp said:

Writing an email now - not expecting anything at all because my expectations are so very low at this point in time.

Its another hit on my credit report too which I feel just another annoyance. 

 

I'll ask for some free sidesteps or something. Works out to about £1000 over the lifetime of agreement. 

I’d start with asking then to justify how they can ask to change the agreement when they are in default with the delivery. Start high expecting to negotiate something between the original and new agreements.

[sonosp]

5 minutes ago, ernieb said:

I’d start with asking then to justify how they can ask to change the agreement when they are in default with the delivery. Start high expecting to negotiate something between the original and new agreements.

I also want assurances that they won't do it again. Given it's easily a couple of months out if they start building it tomorrow. It cant teleport from Japan. 

[Roger_N]

14 minutes ago, sonosp said:

Writing an email now - not expecting anything at all because my expectations are so very low at this point in time.

Its another hit on my credit report too which I feel just another annoyance. 

 

I'll ask for some free sidesteps or something. Works out to about £1000 over the lifetime of agreement. 

Times have changed, the price of my Rav4 went up by £3500 between order and delivery and they kept to the order price.

I would double check with Toyota directly before doing anything else.

[ernieb]

Especially with the volatility of the UK financial market and banking right now.

[sonosp]

28 minutes ago, Roger_N said:

Times have changed, the price of my Rav4 went up by £3500 between order and delivery and they kept to the order price.

I would double check with Toyota directly before doing anything else.

Order price is the same. The finance agreement is the thing they want to change here. Not the cost of the car.

 

The cynic in me is shouting that they are trying to get me to say no and cancel. So that they can charge more for the car. 

 

Edit: Called Toyota Finance directly.

"Yes this is expected, yes this is normal - sorry for any inconvenience but maybe chat to the dealer about ordering another car?"

 

And wait another year for something I don't actually want? yeah right. 

[Akjon]

2 hours ago, sonosp said:

Just had a phonecall from my dealer. Toyota UK are asking that all those with finance agreements pre-march 2022 waiting for orders are re-financed.

Interest rate increase of 2%.

If it had arrived last month/now like promised it would have been cheaper. Feels like a kick in the teeth with having to wait for it for so long. Oh and no further update when it will be delivered. 

I just sent email to my dealer if that will affect me also. My interest rate was 2.9% when I ordered in February.

[kiki184]

Just had a phone call with the dealer. Order placed 13/12/2021- HEV Excel FWD - JWBL + PVM - Urban Khaki
Previous delivery date update was for 11/11/2022
NEW delivery date 20th JULY 2023.
Dealer couldn't 100% guarantee if I will keep the same interest rate and price of the vehicle

I think I will look for a different car, I think it's a sign 🙂
 

[Lawnmowerman]

What a difference a year makes!

23th September 2021.

PHEV Dynamic in stock.

Huge p/ex for my 2018 RAV4 HEV Design - Decuma.

Dropped Dynamic price to Design.

Free dash cam.

0% finance.

£10K refund as otherwise p/ex value too high for finance deal.

Drove away 7 days later with a fully charged Battery.

Never to be repeated.

I genuinely feel for all who are having deals unpicked and repackaged to their detriment.

[B Voros]

1 hour ago, Akjon said:

I just sent email to my dealer if that will affect me also. My interest rate was 2.9% when I ordered in February.

4.9% if you were to order today.

[sonosp]

On 10/3/2022 at 5:38 PM, kiki184 said:

Just had a phone call with the dealer. Order placed 13/12/2021- HEV Excel FWD - JWBL + PVM - Urban Khaki
Previous delivery date update was for 11/11/2022
NEW delivery date 20th JULY 2023.
Dealer couldn't 100% guarantee if I will keep the same interest rate and price of the vehicle

I think I will look for a different car, I think it's a sign 🙂

Are you actually kidding me? Thats INSANE.

[atartan]

Funny enough..  I started this thread when I decided order a RAV4 Excell AWD.. I was really excited during that time and tracked my car journey etc.

I have started another thread on this forum as my car was stolen few days ago. In case anyone missed it... RAV4 2022 can be stolen in 90 seconds and Toyota dealers and services seem to know about this. Toyota confirmed that they will do nothing about it. If I knew what I know now I would have not bought a Toyota. If you are still planning to buy it, you will need to physically secure your car or find a third party alarm, tracker etc. (Apologies for posting same information here again but when I used this forum in the past I only followed this thread and I though it would be nice to warn people if they are doing the same) This is not video of my car but thieves in action...

 

[Ravirules]

On 10/3/2022 at 5:38 PM, kiki184 said:

Just had a phone call with the dealer. Order placed 13/12/2021- HEV Excel FWD - JWBL + PVM - Urban Khaki
Previous delivery date update was for 11/11/2022
NEW delivery date 20th JULY 2023.
Dealer couldn't 100% guarantee if I will keep the same interest rate and price of the vehicle

I think I will look for a different car, I think it's a sign 🙂

Just read the very small print on my terms and conditions, and it’s not good news:-

Basically, if the RRP of the vehicle increases prior to delivery, then the dealer CAN  pass on the increase to the customer! If the customer doesn’t accept the new price  then it’s a refund of deposit! 
I now need to ask myself do I potentially want to fork out another £3500 on top of the price I thought we had agreed six months ago!

Its at the dealers discretion I guess, so will no doubt find out in a few months time!

[ernieb]

54 minutes ago, Ravirules said:

Just read the very small print on my terms and conditions, and it’s not good news:-

Basically, if the RRP of the vehicle increases prior to delivery, then the dealer CAN  pass on the increase to the customer! If the customer doesn’t accept the new price  then it’s a refund of deposit! 
I now need to ask myself do I potentially want to fork out another £3500 on top of the price I thought we had agreed six months ago!

Its at the dealers discretion I guess, so will no doubt find out in a few months time!

Interesting, when I was ordering mine back in Feb ‘21 I asked the question ‘what if the price went up’ and they said they’d honour the price. In some ways now I wish it had been late as a few months later the price dropped by £3.5K.

[Akjon]

2 hours ago, atartan said:

Funny enough..  I started this thread when I decided order a RAV4 Excell AWD.. I was really excited during that time and tracked my car journey etc.

I have started another thread on this forum as my car was stolen few days ago. In case anyone missed it... RAV4 2022 can be stolen in 90 seconds and Toyota dealers and services seem to know about this. Toyota confirmed that they will do nothing about it. If I knew what I know now I would have not bought a Toyota. If you are still planning to buy it, you will need to physically secure your car or find a third party alarm, tracker etc. (Apologies for posting same information here again but when I used this forum in the past I only followed this thread and I though it would be nice to warn people if they are doing the same) This is not video of my car but thieves in action...

 

Thank you. Someone actually told me few days ago. I will immedately install Ghost Immobiliser when my car arrives

[Akjon]

1 minute ago, Akjon said:

Thank you. Someone actually told me few days ago. I will immedately install Ghost Immobiliser when my car arrives

Please send me the link to the new thread.

[Akjon]

On 10/4/2022 at 2:09 PM, Akjon said:

Please send me the link to the new thread.

This is the Ghost Immobiliser that was recommended to me. I am not sure if there are better ones that can work with hybrid car.

https://scorpiontrack.com/x-series-vehicle-immobiliser/

[Ravirules]

9 hours ago, ernieb said:

Interesting, when I was ordering mine back in Feb ‘21 I asked the question ‘what if the price went up’ and they said they’d honour the price. In some ways now I wish it had been late as a few months later the price dropped by £3.5K.

I have doubts as to whether the retailer can legally enforce the increase in price, as i believe  this is an ‘unfair term’ under the sale of goods act. If the contract stated that if the RRP drops then the consumer would pay a lower price, BUT, if the the price rises then they pay a higher price, then I would be okay with that….but that is not the case here.. the consumer is only exposed to the higher price scenario.

I think if I get presented with a bill for an additional £3500 I will be summoning my dealer to the small claims court (under £10k) for breach of contract. My downside is minimal, as in the small claims court only minimal costs  can be recovered (unlike the Rebekah Vardy / Rooney case😱). Watch this space …

[PHEV_Ant]

Just been informed by my local dealer that my order (placed March 2022) for PHEV Dynamic Premium will be pushed back until "approximately mid 2023"

Original delivery was Sept. 22 then Dec. 2022.

Not happy!