Yaris Cross Keyless engine auto turn off

[BakMan]

Hi all,

I have recently ordered a hybrid Yaris Cross with keyless ignition (push button) and I was wandering if it includes the feature of automatically turning off the engine if the driver forgets to turn the ignition off.

 

[FROSTYBALLS]

Moved to the Yaris club.

[Parts-King]

No, you get a warning bleep if the keys are removed from the car and it is still in "ready" mode 

[Cyker]

Yup, you have to turn if off manually like most cars (Although this can also trigger similar beeps if you turn it off with the door open, or if you leave the lights on  )

It also doesn't lock the car if you walk away from it, so remember to do that too!! (I guess although it is Smart Entry it is not Smart Exit  )

 

[RickyC]

The engine must be always powered manually.  If you move away from car leaving in ready mode ( and gear in P obviously ) you get only some warning beep.  Moreover you cant lock the door if car is in ready mode. 

This behavior could be useful to avoid extra S1 stages when weather is cold.  If you need to make a quick stop in a place where it can be safe to leave the car powered on, leaving the car in Ready mode can help to lower fuel consumption. 

About the lack of auto locking the car when moving away with engine off e keyless transmitter in your pocket, it's a pity.   Anyway if you have automatic retracting mirrors they can be easy used to check if car is locked. 

[Stopeter44]

1 hour ago, RickyC said:

About the lack of auto locking the car when moving away with engine off e keyless transmitter in your pocket, it's a pity.   Anyway if you have automatic retracting mirrors they can be easy used to check if car is locked.

My sister in law has the latest Clio V, it has smart entry and exit, but she still managed to leave everything running in a supermarket carpark. I'm pretty happy with the approach Toyota adopted, because the smart entry does involve being close to the car and grabbing the door handle. If I am not mistaken, Renault's smart entry/exit functions on proximity and at a fair distance (+/- 2 metres ?).

A conscious action to lock the car (remote or door handle sensor) is better, in my book. Still miss the auto locking on drive away, though 🙁

Edited December 30, 2021 by Stopeter44
grammar, duh.

[Parts-King]

I have an elderly customer who always leaves the car in N and gets out, never locks the car, never turns it off..... 🙄

[BakMan]

Thank you for your answers.

Since I am not familiar with the keyless technology, I was quite alarmed when I read about this issue:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/13/business/deadly-convenience-keyless-cars-and-their-carbon-monoxide-toll.html
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/06/14/business/toyota-engine-shut-off/index.html

but I understand that Toyota has eventually not applied any automatic functions to prevent this in the new Yaris Cross
 

[Cyker]

*sigh* Only in America...

The same country that couldn't out-wit a floor mat...

[Parts-King]

1 minute ago, Cyker said:

*sigh* Only in America...

The same country that couldn't out-wit a floor mat...

Sad as that report is, can you not do that with a car with a bog standard key? What has keyless got to do with it? Surely anybody in such a bad place would make it happen regardless of the type of key 

[Stopeter44]

7 minutes ago, Cyker said:

The same country that couldn't out-wit a floor mat...

Walking on the moon ....

OTOH, it's like the coffee cups with a warning they may can contain hot coffee, and you could scald yourself if not careful!

[BakMan]

17 minutes ago, Parts-King said:

Sad as that report is, can you not do that with a car with a bog standard key? What has keyless got to do with it? Surely anybody in such a bad place would make it happen regardless of the type of key 

I guess with the stardard key when you have the key with you = the engine is off, something no longer true with keyless ignition.

[Cyker]

That's the weird dichotomy with the americans, more than any country they have the most stark, i dunno, split? gradient? between intelligence levels. Americans are not all stupid - A lot of them are really smart, but the stupid ones are *really really* stupid. However, instead of making them learn from their mistakes, the bar just gets lowered for them in an increasing downward spiral of idiocy.

The other problem is the same thing is happening here in the UK! People are taking less and less responsibility and demand the world changes for them instead, and the ones that do take responsibility just get shafted, and by catering towards the idiots more and more it just makes us all stupider!

 

[Parts-King]

7 hours ago, Cyker said:

The other problem is the same thing is happening here in the UK! People are taking less and less responsibility and demand the world changes for them instead, 

So true, people don't even lift a bonnet, check tyres, screen wash etc. "I have a warning light on, it says i need tyre pressures doing" Have you checked the tyre pressures?.......................................................................

[Cyker]

Ahaha, that reminds me of a conversation I was having with someone in a school while waiting - We were talking about how regularly it's worth checking tyre pressures (Such exciting topics I know!  ), and one of the teachers was like, "Oh, don't you have to take it to a garage to check the tyre pressures?"

Never have I been so torn between crying and laughing  

What scares me is I don't think this is unusual any more - How many people at least check their oil and tyres these days?

Another great story was regarding my friend's sister - He was telling me one time he had to move her car and noticed the brakes felt a bit off - On closer inspection it only had one functioning brake! The pads on all the others had worn down to the metal! We were like, how could you not notice this? Did you not notice the loud screeching sound or the fact that the car was pulling to one side when you braked? And her answer was Oh, well it's always done that.  

But I'm sure you and DevonAygo have loads of dealer nightmare stories about people like that  

[Yugguy1970]

Well we are living in an age where manufacturers increasingly want us to view the car as a disposal white good.  I can half understand this, they make money on new and used sales.  

But they also increasingly want us to buy online without even seeing the car let alone driving it and this I don't get.  I would never buy a car I had not driven.

[Yugguy1970]

7 hours ago, Cyker said:

The other problem is the same thing is happening here in the UK! People are taking less and less responsibility and demand the world changes for them instead, and the ones that do take responsibility just get shafted, and by catering towards the idiots more and more it just makes us all stupider!

I haven't confirmed it elsewhere but I read recently that the collective IQ of the world is at its lowest it has ever been.  How this is measured or scaled I have no idea but I can beleive it.

[Starensis]

1 hour ago, Yugguy1970 said:

I haven't confirmed it elsewhere but I read recently that the collective IQ of the world is at its lowest it has ever been.  How this is measured or scaled I have no idea but I can believe it.

I don't understand what you mean?? 😉

[Stopeter44]

2 hours ago, Yugguy1970 said:

But they also increasingly want us to buy online without even seeing the car let alone driving it and this I don't get.  I would never buy a car I had not driven.

When I bought the 208, I'd rented all sorts in that B category, the 208 was the one that beat the rest for me, although a Polo/Fabia would have been fine. For the Yaris, my test drive was very short. I love the first impressions of the car, and they have held, and in spades. Where I might have erred is that, the interior space and storage nooks are limited to say the least. It's fine for the two of us, but, say, going to pick up friends at a railway station or airport, makes me wonder if I'll get everybody and their luggage in!

A test drive is imperative, but a few days rental with the car would be even better.

 

[Cyker]

Yeah it was a bit weird when I first loaded my mates into the Mk4 - I hadn't realised how much smaller the rear passenger space is compared to the Mk2, and the doors are far smaller and don't really open far enough for ease of entry. The Mk4 is a foot longer than the Mk2 but it's clear that extra space didn't go to the cabin area!

 

[Stopeter44]

20 minutes ago, Cyker said:

The Mk4 is a foot longer than the Mk2 but it's clear that extra space didn't go to the cabin area!

My guess is that it went to crash protection/crumple zones. Even the footwell on the Yaris is shorter than the 208, and they are essentially the same length and the Yaris has 2cm extra wheelbase.

[Cyker]

It's also that they made the same mistake they did in the Corolla HB and put the rear seats too far forwards; They should have moved them back a few inches IMHO, like they did in the Corolla TS. The Mk4 has the biggest boot of any Yaris model, but I would have gladly sacrificed some for better rear legroom. Or just put the sliding rear seats back that the Mk1 and Mk2 had! That was a fantastic feature in such a small car!

 

[forkingabout]

21 minutes ago, Cyker said:

It's also that they made the same mistake they did in the Corolla HB and put the rear seats too far forwards; They should have moved them back a few inches IMHO, like they did in the Corolla TS.

The Corolla HB has a shorter wheel base then the TS version - this explains the extra rear leg room available in the TS. 

2640mm wheel base on the HB - 2700mm on the TS 

[FROSTYBALLS]

The wheelbase in the Corolla TS and saloon is the same size as the Prius and the Avensis, which also is why the Corolla TS/saloon, the Prius and the Camry together effectively replaced the Avensis.

When Toyota launched the Corolla, they targeted the hatchback towards couple, the TS to families and the saloon to execs.

[Mikw]

8 hours ago, Cyker said:

Ahaha, that reminds me of a conversation I was having with someone in a school while waiting - We were talking about how regularly it's worth checking tyre pressures (Such exciting topics I know!  ), and one of the teachers was like, "Oh, don't you have to take it to a garage to check the tyre pressures?"

Never have I been so torn between crying and laughing  

What scares me is I don't think this is unusual any more - How many people at least check their oil and tyres these days?

Another great story was regarding my friend's sister - He was telling me one time he had to move her car and noticed the brakes felt a bit off - On closer inspection it only had one functioning brake! The pads on all the others had worn down to the metal! We were like, how could you not notice this? Did you not notice the loud screeching sound or the fact that the car was pulling to one side when you braked? And her answer was Oh, well it's always done that.  

But I'm sure you and DevonAygo have loads of dealer nightmare stories about people like that  

I wish i was more like that to be honest. I'm neorotic about the car. Every noise it makes i have to know what it is. I'm still torturing myself for letting it idle for 30 minutes on the first day i had it, have i knackered it? That kind of thing.

I kind of envy those who just drive it without thinking about these things and only getting intersted when they see a warning light on.