Toyota Auris Hybrid 200 000 miles service

[mtl]

Btw, when I bought the car it was like a pighouse inside :(. It needed a day of detailing to somewhat clean it.
So, this just confirmed to me, that it should really not be a problem due to lack of the airfilter, because if it was not completelly dirty then, it will certanly not be also now :).

[TonyHSD]

Deal on engine oil currently on eBay.
If 0w16 is preferred oil this seller has it too. 👍

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/323898235244?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=3hyRrutZQQ-&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=p34UK1z2T4m&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

 

wow10 at checkout for 10% off the price 👌

[TonyHSD]

Little update here. 
The car has successfully reached 250000 miles with very few parts replaced over than the regular service.
However since last week there are faults discovered - front L stabiliser bar link is shoot and rubber bushes are ready for replacement, the front L wheel bearing also developed bad rumbling noise and most likely both hubs will go together with all fluids and oils sometimes next week or week after.
It will be a big job, either a day in a garage or two days on the driveway, we will see what I can do first myself. Nothing last forever, but this car did exceptionally well. 
No Toyota stickers for the mileage this time, next reward sticker is at 300000 miles and this is what I am after. 

[AisinW]

At 250k miles, Rubber bushing and stabilizer bar links, shocks adsorber, brakes, and and sometimes bearings are very common wear and tear parts. 

In heavier cars, the control arms rear busings often failed too. 

[TonyHSD]

I have completed some work yesterday’s and today. 

Engine oil this time I had changed at 6000 miles and it looked to me similar to when I change at 9-10k, on the dipstick was clear but dark in the pan. 
I haven’t used any engine flush this time. 

Transmission fluid was very bright and almost the exact same colour as the new one, although in the pan looked darker. 50k miles a bit short intervals imo, easily can do 80-100k without problems. 
Coolant both engine and inverter similar situation, clear and in good conditions without any debris inside. 

Stabiliser bar bushes , I didn’t take pictures but they looked very good condition too, only a bit harder than the new ones. I done these with wheels on a ramp. One tip though, easiest way to do them is to undo the plastic cover that hides the bar, undo brackets on both sides so you can wiggle to remove and install bushes. No need to disconnect the links. I couldn’t do it anyway, they are corroded and so are the wheel bearings nuts, these two jobs will be a garage thing next week or if not possible there I will give them another try.  I bought some aftermarket splash guards from auto doc Germany, abakus a polish brand I never heard before, but they look well made. That was all this time. 
  

Almost forgot to mention. Both sides front brake callipers slider where stuck and they were causing some pad dragging on t(e disk. I noticed recently some extra brake dust on FL wheel, so both sides now have new sliders sets. 
Another thing what to share, this method with touching the spring to confirm if the wheel bearing is bad works great. With wheels in the air I left the car in D spinning it’s wheels and was touching each spring and there was an obvious vibrations on the left side and rumbling noise too. Right side is smooth. 
The old bushes here. 

[AisinW]

Hi Tony, are you still using the original 12V Battery? My Battery usually at about 12.4V in winter and 12.5 in summer under daily usage 20 miles a day. Right after a long trip, it is usually 12.7V.  

There is some good offer from Autodoc for couple days Yuasa AGM original €145-160 and may be a good time to buy auxiliary Battery

[TonyHSD]

34 minutes ago, AisinW said:

Hi Tony, are you still using the original 12V battery? My battery usually at about 12.4V in winter and 12.5 in summer under daily usage 20 miles a day. Right after a long trip, it is usually 12.7V.  

There is some good offer from Autodoc for couple days Yuasa AGM original €145-160 and may be a good time to buy auxiliary battery

Hi John, 

yes both batteries are the original ones from 2010. 
My 12v Battery usually shows up to 12.9v when fully charged and slowly goes down to 12.2v after a week of inactivity. 
The hybrid Battery is getting weaker.
I can see now and then going very low, as low as almost no charge left inside the Battery icon, something that never happened before up to around 220k miles. Also now after all those years and miles the hybrid battery is getting quickly tipped up, so these are perhaps the typical signs of traction battery getting old. The car still drives fine though and efficiency is really good. 

[AisinW]

4 hours ago, TonyHSD said:

Hi John, 

yes both batteries are the original ones from 2010. 
My 12v battery usually shows up to 12.9v when fully charged and slowly goes down to 12.2v after a week of inactivity. 
The hybrid battery is getting weaker.
I can see now and then going very low, as low as almost no charge left inside the battery icon, something that never happened before up to around 220k miles. Also now after all those years and miles the hybrid battery is getting quickly tipped up, so these are perhaps the typical signs of traction battery getting old. The car still drives fine though and efficiency is really good. 

I think it is a good idea to get a 15 years hybrid warranty kicks in. 2 more years is £100 and you may get new Battery right on time. 

[TonyHSD]

14 hours ago, AisinW said:

I think it is a good idea to get a 15 years hybrid warranty kicks in. 2 more years is £100 and you may get new battery right on time. 

Thanks,

it sounds right indeed, but this is not gonna work for me.
I have checked with Toyota website and it’s only for up to 10000 miles or 1 more year after successfully pass the test.
Whith my driving needs I cover between 35-50k miles a year which means I will need to do 4-5 hybrids health checks at £50 each.
At this mileage they will simply laugh at me. I am not taking any warranty bs and go after them in case I needed. If the car was maintained within the dealer network and not driven as much yes, but in my case it’s not valid. This warranty excludes any business use, any taxi or courier service vehicles.  Here terms and conditions if anyone interested. https://www.toyota.co.uk/content/dam/toyota/nmsc/united-kingdom/owners/warranty/toyota-warranty/Toyota Hybrid Battery Extended Cover Terms_tcm-3060-1563365.pdf
 

[AisinW]

If yours is for commercial use, it won't work. But if it is registered as personal use, just high miles, it still works. £250 is still a good deal if you really feel the warranty will work. I don't think Dealership will deny any hybrid service check. It is just basic OBD2 scan can visual check on the Battery cooling vent. 

[TonyHSD]

Hi everyone, 

11th of December and we have another service completed, today major one  at 260000 miles. 
1. Engine oil flush and New oil and filter @ 8900 miles STP and Petronas 0w20. mann filter

2. New Blueprint air filter after 30k miles, was not too dirty but cheap enough to replace earlier.

3. New Blueprint cabin filter after 10k miles. Typical dirt plus some sticky black residue, I think it’s from the road salt and grits. 

4. A set of new plugs , this time I had Denso from Halfords, seems original, made in Indonesia but look quality product. All 4 for £40 regular price, Toyota burrows were out of stock The old plugs look best of all times, ever, last few 1000’s miles on bp and Shell mixture e5 and e10. This white is on the electrodes is unburied fuel as I did started the car for 5 min before I undo them, with the time the white has evaporated and they shows their original appearance. You can see how they change colours from cylinder 1 to cylinder 4.. 👍

Anpther interesting thing on cylinder 2 the coil has signs of water been seating on top and eventually finds its way into the plug and enters the combustion, there are some rust signs and the plug is the only one with some typical yellow marks. This could be the culprit for knocking on cold starts , that I get sometimes. Will be monitoring. 

5. Quick interior clean , outside wash will be in the weekend eventually, my colleague already complained, she mentioned “ your car was white before “ -, eee it was I said but then it was a summer 😂  

[AisinW]

All the plugs looks nice with some sign of burning engine oil but still minimal.  I bought used intake manifolds and EGR+Cooler from 2012 CT200h that claimed to have 40k miles. Surprisingly the intake manifolds are pretty clean with normal wet oil from the PCV valve.

  The EGR lines are all free of gunks, but the EGR has already some hard carbon deposit. 

The EGR coolar is still very clean without any passage clogged. Only mild carbon crust on the intake walls.  Used bambu chopstick is good to remove hard carbon on the metal surface without scratching it. 

I clean the EGR, cooler, intake manifolds, and stainless steel pipe. Dawn dishwasher detergent works really well on degreasing oil.  I merge the intake manifolds and the pipes using laundry detergent and water for couple days and they are now squicky clean.

[TonyHSD]

Well, while waiting for the new hybrid Battery I have decided to do an intermediate service, just oil and filters and a set of new wipers. The Denso one lasted only 1.5 years and 47000 miles., now back to Bosch classic wipers. 
The rest all the usual stuff, Petronas 0w20 oil, mann oil filter, Blueprint cabin filter and stop flush. Service interval 8655 miles in 3 months. 
When the engine was running with engine flush in I noticed a steam coming from the radiators, checked and the smaller one top right corner was wet, so I run a test with paper towel, one end soak from the radiator and it was pure water, other end I soaked into the expansion tank and it turned  pink, then I realised its water seating from the car wash yesterday., got me a bit worried  😉👌 

[Cyker]

Good thinking to eliminate the rad as the cause! That sinking feeling when you think a leak has appeared is never fun!!

[TonyHSD]

Done 500 miles with the new Battery and after the last service. The car seems to drive so much better. The cola can fixed exhaust also quieten the car a lot and all new 5 tyres helped too., 5 tyres yes not a typo as I was very unlucky here. Put 4 new Goodyear egp 2 and then 3 weeks later I run over peace of lorry tyre on the motorway. The wire from it shredded one of my new tyres beyond repair, so I got another one. 
One note to all Toyota owners when changing your wipers best ones are the oem or Denso hybrid, the wipers shape is ultra important.
 I bought some Bosch classic which not only are not quiet but also create a lots of wind noise coming from them as they stick out and hit directly the air stream. I knew that from previous experience but I did cheaper on that this time and now regret it, will definitely change back to Denso hybrid next time. 👍

[TonyHSD]

Update on the service with my Auris. 
Yesterday I did service number 31 since new and 26th of my own.
This time not many things, just engine oil, oil filter, air filter and cabin filter. Topped up a bit of coolant , and screen wash. Under bonnet inspection, suspension, and undercarriage checks. Nothing unusual here, but the rust progressively eats my car. Apart from that all looks good. 
Engine oil at 9k miles intervals looked typically darker, I used stp engine flush again and the oil came out so thin, almost like water. Cabin and air filter not too dirty this time but cheap enough to replace often, nothing it’s better than new. 
Now the tyres,  I did first rotating since I bought them back in February.
Total travelled 11000 miles. The fronts were around 7-7.5mm , and rears at 8mm. Next rotating will be cross pattern and will do the brakes, clean and lube and put a new wipers , projected date will be October as I don’t drive as much as before (3 service per year instead of 5)😊
 

[mtl]

Where are the worst rust points on your car?

[TonyHSD]

14 minutes ago, mtl said:

Where are the worst rust points on your car?

It’s the bare metal parts that used to be black when new.
Suspension, shocks, springs, stabiliser bar, and that chassis as well.
The main structure along the length of the car where rigidity beams are connected. Then we have outside the whole body has started to have rust spots and particularly rear arches, on the roof and doors, these places had been bombarded by rocks and from the salt during winter, here in uk it’s crazy. Salt been thrown on the roads even at 6C° at night between October to May. 

[Mooly]

The last picture a couple of posts above is ace 🤣So you kept it 'till the wheels fell off... bwhhahaha

That is some serious mileage Tony, brilliant.

[TonyHSD]

2 hours ago, Mooly said:

The last picture a couple of posts above is ace 🤣So you kept it 'till the wheels fell off... bwhhahaha

That is some serious mileage Tony, brilliant.

Haha, thanks. 
These wheels off look so cool 😎 

[Rhymes with Paris]

While the wheels are off Tony, have you considered fitting 22 inch chrome spoked , with spinners?

They look a treat with purple LEDs backlighting, and yellow hand painted callipers.

[TonyHSD]

Another minor service completed today. It seems I don’t drive as much as before. Only done 9581 miles since June. 
Just oil and filter and cabin filter. 
Next week will be new wipers, tyres rotate and MOT. 
So far so good. It’s old and crusty but nothing wrong I can spot.
Suspension, brakes, exhausting, engine, transmission all seems ok to me. 
Let see what mot tester will say. 

[Eddiefh]

25 minutes ago, TonyHSD said:

Another minor service completed today. It seems I don’t drive as much as before. Only done 9581 miles since June. 
Just oil and filter and cabin filter. 
Next week will be new wipers, tyres rotate and MOT. 
So far so good. It’s old and crusty but nothing wrong I can spot.
Suspension, brakes, exhausting, engine, transmission all seems ok to me. 
Let see what mot tester will say. 

Used to think this was high mileage till I joined that face book group you recommended on high mileage cars 

[TonyHSD]

18 hours ago, Eddiefh said:

Used to think this was high mileage till I joined that face book group you recommended on high mileage cars 

Same, I think my car it’s still a baby 😅👌

[TonyHSD]

Happy to say that the car has passed it’s MOT once again today.
There are extra advisories added into the existing list of advisories since last year, mainly about corrosion on some metal parts under the car as to be expected taking into account her age and mileage. 
One interesting thing to share is what I found like strange formation in the exhaust pipe end. It looks like crystals , metal silver and black soot.
These been going on for the last few years , perhaps because the car ever since been an oil burner., but it drives good so I just cleaned the exhaust with the jet wash . No more jewels 💎 but when I started the car it was holy waterfall coming out 🌊😅 . I used the moment to clean door shuts too and treat all rubber seals with some silicone wipe, prepared for the freezing days, if we get any. Tyres been rotated again and new set of Denso wipers all around has been fitted. Here some photos. 👌