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[Rhymes with Paris]

Hello Corolla folks, I have been having a virtual look around at Corollas, I like the look of the estate, and the 2.0 engine.

I still very much like my Yaris tsport, but thinking about things,it may be time to be spontaneous , I am told that there are no pockets in a shroud.

I no nothing about trim levels, and am averse to all the controls on a screen.

And would never buy a car with those stupid American style emergency brakes pedal on the floor, as they call them, Corollas don't have these do they?

It looks like the 2.0 has around 180bhp,so I would imagine has plenty of go.

Is there someone with this body style/engine on here who would share thier thoughts.

[Cyker]

New Corolla (And Yaris!) don't even have manual parking/emergency brakes!

Just a tiny two-way rocker switch that is impossible to find and use. Fortunately, they finally made it automatic so if you put it in Park it engages it, and if you take it out of park it releases it, so you don't need to use it as it's linked to Park (Which is should have been from the beginning!)

Don't worry about power, the instant torque from the electric motor makes it feel a lot more powerful than the HP figures suggest   

 

[APS]

Agreed - the tourer is a good looking car. 

Not all controls are soft buttons, there are physical controls for key functions like HVAC, audio, ...and steering!

 

[Macscrooge]

I had a Corolla 2.0 wagon for the day yesterday and really liked it (current daily is a 2014 Lexus RX450h...).  Plenty of go, toys, space and nothing annoying - rare in a modern car!  I normally loathe electronic 'handbrakes' but this one was totally unobtrusive and just got on with the job.  Same goes for the radar cruise - by far the best such system I have used  - BMW, Volvo & Subaru take note!  Oh, and 51+mpg.  The only issue I have was the traction control light flashing when pulling away at pretty much every junction.  Possibly just rubbish tyres.

[Roy124]

Can it take a space saver wheel? 

[Rhymes with Paris]

Cyker, that is reassuring on the handbrake front.

The power sounds plenty anyway, but is the 180ish bhp the Ice only,or combined power including the electric motors?

And do the electric motors work with the Ice on the front wheels only,or drive the rear wheels?

So much I don't know about these things.

Oh and not thinking brand new, more like a 2019/2020 bearing in mind the wait times, I realise that this is probably a bad time to buy a car, what with inflated prices and so on.

Also if I have to stop driving 🥲 knowing my luck it would probably coincide with a drop in values if I was forced to sell, but no one can predict that scenario.

[Rhymes with Paris]

48 minutes ago, APS said:

Agreed - the tourer is a good looking car. 

Not all controls are soft buttons, there are physical controls for key functions like HVAC, audio, ...and steering!

 

I was thinking more of the hovering finger to control the heating/Aircon and radio volume ,simple functions, without scrolling through endless menus and sub menus .

Not totally tech phobic, but I do like practicality and ease of use without studying for a year to get a btec in driving a new car.😂

[Rhymes with Paris]

Thanks Macsrooge, that is useful info.

[Rhymes with Paris]

32 minutes ago, Roy124 said:

Can it take a space saver wheel? 

Good question Roy, like so many here, not a fan of gunge tins and hope.

[forkingabout]

39 minutes ago, Roy124 said:

Can it take a space saver wheel? 

Work colleague just ordered a 1.8 TS Design earlier this week & ticked the space saver spare wheel option - it does have a disclaimer that it reduces boot space.

[Rosgoe]

When I had the auris I specified a spare wheel never used it in 5 years and the Renault Laguna before that had that 10 years never used the spare on that either you can see why manufacturers do away with the space saver to save on weight and boost fuel consumption figures.

As I have said before on this forum I have an emergency tubeless tyre plug kit that you can repair the tyre temporarily until you can get to a tyre fitters to get it  repaired properly also if a nail goes into the tyre likely as not you will probably get home any way (maybe have to put extra air in once or twice rather than use the tyre repair gunk. But I do believe that the repair gunk can be washed out the tyre prior to a proper repair

[Rhymes with Paris]

The other big consideration for me is low mileage use.

I have read a lot on here about problems with the 12v Battery on hybrids through lack of use.

I do not want to be in the same situation as I was with my CRV diesel, having to drive 10 miles on a half mile run to keep a car running right.

Different reasons I know,dpf etc on a diesel, and whatever it is on a hybrid.

I wish I still was covering 20k miles a year, I enjoy driving, but realistically I am looking at 6-8k per year average.

Sorry, I mean 2-3k per year.

[APS]

53 minutes ago, Rhymes with Paris said:

I was thinking more of the hovering finger to control the heating/Aircon and radio volume ,simple functions, without scrolling through endless menus and sub menus .

Not totally tech phobic, but I do like practicality and ease of use without studying for a year to get a btec in driving a new car.😂

That was what I meant by "soft buttons" (buttons defined in software). And I completely agree. Physical controls are much better. They give you direct access and do not require you to take your eyes off the road for any significant amount of time, if at all.

[APS]

2 hours ago, Rhymes with Paris said:

still very much like my Yaris tsport, but thinking about things,it may be time to be spontaneous , I am told that there are no pockets in a shroud.

The Yaris is hard to beat on ease of use. All the controls are big, distinctive, tactile and easy to use. Let me know if you want to sell it! 🙂

[Rhymes with Paris]

Ah, thanks APS,got it now.

I find it difficult enough driving this phone.

[Rhymes with Paris]

6 minutes ago, APS said:

The Yaris is hard to beat on ease of use. All the controls are big, distinctive, tactile and easy to use. Let me know if you want to sell it! 🙂

Yes, so easy to drive, it almost drives itself with the assistance of muscle memory of course.🙂

Just eyes, feet and hands, that is one of my worries on newer cars , having to disable all the stuff I do not want every time I set off.

It will certainly be on here if I sell😥, sooner it went to an enthusiast who would appreciate it.

I will give plenty of notice if that happens, the first clue would be a post with a Corolla in it.

But I do need to find out a lot more first, not one to rush,if indeed it turns out that it would be a good change for me.

[TonyHSD]

Watching used cars and particularly Toyota hybrids 2-4 years old unless you need a car urgently absolutely no sense to pay these crazy high prices for a trashed cars. Buy new and wait or just drive whatever you have currently. 👍

[Cyker]

1 hour ago, Rhymes with Paris said:

The other big consideration for me is low mileage use.

I have read a lot on here about problems with the 12v battery on hybrids through lack of use.

I do not want to be in the same situation as I was with my CRV diesel, having to drive 10 miles on a half mile run to keep a car running right.

Different reasons I know,dpf etc on a diesel, and whatever it is on a hybrid.

I wish I still was covering 20k miles a year, I enjoy driving, but realistically I am looking at 6-8k per year average.

Sorry, I mean 2-3k per year.

Hmm that makes it far less attractive... With that sort of mileage I'd stick with the T-Sport if you're happy with it, as the Corolla will never make back its money with that kind of mileage, and you'd likely need a way of keeping the 12v topped up as it sounds like you don't drive very regularly...!

The T-Sport will likely be more reliable and the running costs won't be much different. (Maybe even less - I suspect the insurance cost of a T-Sport is a lot less than a new Corolla  )

 

[Rhymes with Paris]

Hmm, so much to consider.

I do drive regularly Cyker, just not very far nowadays.

Even the pharmacy around the corner means going in the car, I am simply incapable of walking past the end of the street, and returning, I have tried.

As I have previously posted, some friends have suggested a mobility scooter, but I don't fancy that.

The insurance on the tsport is around £200 and some a year if I remember.

No idea what it would be on a newish car.

And no doubt, I would not give a newish car the use that it would warrant given the cost.

I am not thinking pragmatically here, I know, just new car rabies I suppose.

But whatever the outcome, I do value the info and opinions on here, much better than hooking up a dealer salesman to a lie detector to find out anything.

[Cyker]

Yeah there are a lot of factors... another one is the T-Sport (In fact the Mk1 and Mk2 Yaris in general) are *far* easier to get in and out of than the new Corolla and Yaris - My mum doesn't like my new car as much, as she's a bit arthritic and finds it much harder to get in and out of than the previous ones, because the seats in those were higher and you could just sit in them, rather than more falling into them as in the newer lower cars.

She does like that there is no clutch tho', and finds it much easier to drive   (Albeit with a booster cushion so she can see over the dash!)

The hybrids do need to be used more regularly to avoid the 12v of doom, and the journeys have to be some minimum time. If it's a short length journey but takes ages through traffic, that may be okay, but 5-10 min journey won't be enough to get decent charge into the 12v.

If you have a driveway, might be better to wait for a small EV that doesn't suck, otherwise a small petrol engine car would be better, which you already have!  

If you ever do sell it know it's worth a fair bit - Clean ones that haven't been riced are worth good money to the right buyer!!

[Rhymes with Paris]

Spot on Cyker, that was going to be one of the next questions for Corolla owners,seat height.

The easiest car I have ever been in for getting in and out was the CRV, the tsport is not bad even though an inch or so lower than a standard Yaris I think.

Clutch no prob ATM as had a plastic and titanium left hip fitted in 2013, mind you, was told would last about 10 years, so getting close,at least it was fitted by a Porsche driving young surgeon, not a fast fit place manned by barely conscious teenagers 

[Dylanfan]

I don’t see this Battery issue as being a problem. My 1.8 is 31 months old and yesterday turned 15k. It has spells of daily use and spells of rest between 5 to 8 days and it’s never been a problem. I did buy it new but at the end of the day every car’s 12v Battery only lasts between 4 to 6 years.

[TonyHSD]

He is worried about 12v Battery been going flat as a result of not driving often and enough , and this can eventually deplete any car 12v Battery. There are tips and tricks how to manage the Battery in conditions as above even some people does these without realise they do and have no issue with car batteries. If you drive normally or a bit more batteries can last ages. I am closing on 12 years now with original batteries without single issue to date since I had taken ownership of the car 7 years ago. I was watching the new cars too since 2020 but I didn't feel the need to change and now although the car is getting older the current situation with cars prices and stock availability is putting me off completely and makes me think of keeping my car as long as possible. Not sure if I will buy another Toyota hybrid even though I believe that only Toyota hybrid worth buying it if you about a car that burns fuel. there are too expensive and nothing good available as used one., or if there is it will cost more than new. 

[Rhymes with Paris]

Cyker, good, useful post above.

Re your last paragraph, does "riced"refer to thrashed within an inch of it's life,or modified with shiny bits under the bonnet?

Either way, no problem,as totally standard and driven from new by 3 mature drivers, including me.

All academic for now though,as it is a complicated thought process for me to decide whether to use common sense, and stick as I am,or go all breaking bad.😂

What complicates it the most, is as pointed out, it is a bad time just now to buy a new or nearly new car financially.

The balance between any pleasure to be gained, and for how long, from a different car,versus the cost and possible dislike of the systems on a newer car that I may very well not enjoy.

Ah well, no hurry.🙂

[Cyker]

Ha, sorry, I mean modified, e.g. 

https://www.planetofdreams.co.uk/draws/toyota-yaris-t-sport-2022-03-11

Although that usually naturally leads to some 'exuberant' driving too