Aygo Automatic (MMT?)

[davidif]

I have been asked to advise a friend who needs a small automatic and is interested in an Aygo (or C1/107)

She has a comparatively small budget of £3000-£3500.

My initial thoughts were to steer her towards a Hybrid Yaris although even the highest of mileage and CAT damaged cars are considerably above her budget so unfortunately that is not an option.

My question therefore is solely related to the transmission as I have owned several Aygo's. Is it any good?

[Puglet]

Having owned and followed these cars for a number of years, all I know is it is not a conventional automatic, it is sometimes called a robotised manual and uses actuators etc to function and thus is more troublesome and complicated to fix. The Mk1s (2005-2014) were often failing and only a specialist or dealers could fix them or change clutches as normal repairers wouldn't touch them. The Mk2s seem a lot more reliable and fault free in many ways including the MMT compared to the Mk1s, but cost more money. If you had a Toyota warranty on your Mk1 then you were ok getting it fixed, but even that is limited now as late Mk1s nearing 10 years old and out of warranty. I suspect that Toyota etc knew of MMT issues and bit like the water leaks on the Mk1, needed major redesign/work to sort out unlike the dodgy water pumps and clutches on early Mk1s which were fairly simple bolt on fixes and this shows on the Mk2.

We have a Peugeot 107 and 108 in family, both with Toyota engine and both manual, but must agree that the 108 is a much better built and better quality car than our 107, when looking for our 108 few years ago looked at late model Aygo/C1/107s, but decided to spend bit more and get a newer Mk2 108 and glad we did. 

[Wiz201]

I've driven aygos with the automated manual transmission, never longer than 3 years. If she's able to increase her budget or is able to accept going onto finance, the mk2 Aygo x shift is a bit better and more reliable.

[flash22]

With the market the way it is Aygo's are not cheap, MMT up to 2012 have a lot of issues at that sort of budget an MMT issue may write the car off £7-800 for a clutch, £250-300 for the clutch actuator, up to £400 for a shift actuator and trans ecu £2-400)

the biggest killer is rust on 05-08 cars, like the op from another thread, clean car inside and out but rotten underneath

 

Options, Toyota IQ Auto - CVT, Yaris Mk3 (non-hybrid) Auto more than likely way out of budget at £5K+, Mk1 yaris Auto they are rare, but they are out there among the freetronic and MMT cars

 

this looks like an auto car

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202208198926361?postcode=wr11aa&advertising-location=at_cars&sort=price-asc&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly New&onesearchad=Used&price-to=4000&year-to=2022&radius=80&maximum-badge-engine-size=1.4&include-delivery-option=on&transmission=Automatic&make=Toyota&page=1

Edit. Just run the reg and got the vin and it's the conventional automatic with torque convertor (U441E)

looks like another one but on a 54

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202208259134093?postcode=wr11aa&advertising-location=at_cars&sort=price-asc&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly New&onesearchad=Used&price-to=4000&year-to=2022&radius=80&maximum-badge-engine-size=1.4&include-delivery-option=on&transmission=Automatic&make=Toyota&page=1

Edit 2. Yes it a conventional auto too

[Cyker]

If they're not in a hurry, I'd advise waiting - It's not a good time to buy a car on limited funds right now! The prices of 2nd hand cars is just silly right now.

[davidif]

Thanks for all of the responses. Time for a rethink.