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Reviews in the USA state range of around 250 miles versus UK reviews stating around 300 miles. Did anyone note the actual miles/kWh during a test drive ?

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It depends on many conditions. Varries. 

Posted

Probably due to the difference between US and Imperial gallons ...

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3 minutes ago, philip42h said:

Probably due to the difference between US and Imperial gallons ...

No, actually test conditions are different. 

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28 minutes ago, philip42h said:

Probably due to the difference between US and Imperial gallons ...

And I probably should have resisted the temptation to post something silly ... 😁

Anyway, I quite like the ev-database  as a reasonably objective comparison of EV specifications. For the bZ4X (AWD) they quote:

  • WLTP (TEL) range = 286 miles
  • WLTP (the) range = 258 miles
  • EVDB Real Range = 225 miles

You pays your money and takes your choice ...


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You can expect a drop in miles in the real world.

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9 hours ago, Derek.w said:

You can expect a drop in miles in the real world.

...and especially summer vs winter.

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1 hour ago, ernieb said:

...and especially summer vs winter.

At least not like other EV brands without heat pump. It is standart with bx4z and saves %30 from Battery

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But did anyone test drive the car and note the actual consumption ?  I did drive it for a short test but unfortunately forgot to check the power used on the run 

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Yes, I did. I test drove a Pure at dealer before the recall. I did two laps of a 5 mile city drive with one short quick bit.

Not only very impressed by the car drive but also kept a close eye on energy consumption. It got 4.2 miles per kWh. If replicated across full charge at 71 kW that's 298 miles.

Needless to say hugely disappointed not to have my car by now - which is a FWD Vision.

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Talking of range, I had a thought yesterday watching a BMW. 

I often see the performance EVs driving fast with no consideration of consumption, whereas yesterday a BMW sports car being driven sedately just like a hybrid. 

It occurs that where the EV is being used for shorter journeys the driver is happy to exploit the performance.  Possibly on longer stages a sedate drive gets them there in one leg rather than rushing to the next charging point. 

Your range therefore is likely to vary between the sum of several short but fast journeys and a single journey eeking out the juice. 

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2 hours ago, Roy124 said:

Talking of range, I had a thought yesterday watching a BMW. 

I often see the performance EVs driving fast with no consideration of consumption, whereas yesterday a BMW sports car being driven sedately just like a hybrid. 

It occurs that where the EV is being used for shorter journeys the driver is happy to exploit the performance.  Possibly on longer stages a sedate drive gets them there in one leg rather than rushing to the next charging point. 

Your range therefore is likely to vary between the sum of several short but fast journeys and a single journey eeking out the juice. 

Crossover or SUV type cars are mostly for families. So I would be more than happy with 0-60 acceleration time of 6-7 seconds. 

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On 9/3/2022 at 7:11 AM, ernieb said:

...and especially summer vs winter.

Noticed this on the Toyota UK website  : https://mag.toyota.co.uk/all-new-toyota-bz4x-makes-world-debut/#comments

The bZ4X features a Lithium Ion Battery. The main concern with Battery health is when using rapid charging facilities, at which point the charging capacity is automatically limited to 80% to reserve the health.

Thanks,

Toyota UK

So if on a long drive, you stop to recharge, realistically you can only charge to 80%, so the range for the next leg of the journey will only be approx 228 miles for the AWD BZ4X ?

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Its normal good practice to charge upto 80% then if you need more range lets say a hour or two before starting out to charge upto max capacity.

Note fast and super fast chargers stop at 80% but this is only to get you back on the road.


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Most cars limit charging rates on DCFCs to be very low after 80% anyway. Toyota are being unduly careful here, but that’s not a massive surprise given their previous statements. 

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