2022 RAV4 stolen

[SimonAdd]

We’ve driven in to London today from Swansea as I’m doing the London to Brighton bike ride tomorrow.

First time we’ve ever used a Disklok on the RAV, especially as parking is on street! 

[PAISLEY1903]

2 hours ago, Bill65 said:

I'm just along the road from you in Glasgow and my insurance has gone up from £720 to £1285. RAV4 PHEV MY22.

That's crazy.  Nothing else changed?  71 plate here was £570 now £582 on checking now. 

Edit just ran it on gocompare forgot about them and tescoBank were £481 so actually cheaper than last year.

Mine is a HEV not PHEV but not sure why that would matter.

 

 

[Hayzee]

1 hour ago, PAISLEY1903 said:

Mine is a HEV not PHEV but not sure why that would matter.

 

 

The PHEV is 300HP which will make a difference, but not that amount

[Hadrian1]

Later RAV4s have a shield to help prevent this type of theft. It can also be fitted to older models.

[Bill65]

4 hours ago, PAISLEY1903 said:

That's crazy.  Nothing else changed?  71 plate here was £570 now £582 on checking now. 

Edit just ran it on gocompare forgot about them and tescoBank were £481 so actually cheaper than last year.

Mine is a HEV not PHEV but not sure why that would matter.

 

 

No changes, no claims, max NCD. 

[Fostel]

On 6/7/2024 at 3:29 PM, chilaspt said:

Kingston upon Thames, outside of London

Oww, you meant postcode 😉

[Fostel]

On 6/3/2024 at 2:17 PM, chilaspt said:

We had a 63 auris and were paying 700 in kt3(renewed in February) -  currently paying 1300 for the 2020Rav4, 

Cheers. Using comparethemarket I had few quotes at 500 from not known insurers/brokers with shady terms and astronomical excess. There was Aviva Zero at 490 in between but reading through negative reviews (https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.aviva.co.uk?sort=recency&stars=1) decided to avoid them. Surprisingly many (to many for my comfort) known insurers were not providing the quotes at all.

My current insurer AA got me a renewal price of 730, so I decided to contact them and negotiate. I said that this is too much comparing to the previous year (52% rise). I gave them new details as I moved outside London and they end up in a 595-610 range. I think it will be safer to get this offer from the devil I know instead of supply all the paperwork to the new company, who may cancel you without clear reason (as the cheapest ones like to do sometimes).
 

EDIT.

I am also surprised that the renewals from AA are the cheapest for me for the 3rd year in a row, even when consensus is to shop around and change the insurer every year.

 

[Rav Rob]

7 hours ago, Fostel said:

Cheers. Using comparethemarket I had few quotes at 500 from not known insurers/brokers with shady terms and astronomical excess. There was Aviva Zero at 490 in between but reading through negative reviews (https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.aviva.co.uk?sort=recency&stars=1) decided to avoid them. Surprisingly many (to many for my comfort) known insurers were not providing the quotes at all.

My current insurer AA got me a renewal price of 730, so I decided to contact them and negotiate. I said that this is too much comparing to the previous year (52% rise). I gave them new details as I moved outside London and they end up in a 595-610 range. I think it will be safer to get this offer from the devil I know instead of supply all the paperwork to the new company, who may cancel you without clear reason (as the cheapest ones like to do sometimes).
 

EDIT.

I am also surprised that the renewals from AA are the cheapest for me for the 3rd year in a row, even when consensus is to shop around and change the insurer every year.

 

My understanding of AA, from previous policies with them, is they are actually just brokers, like Hastings etc so your actual insurance is with a company you may not have heard of but doesn't mean its bad. So like any broker deals available to them change all the time, sometimes they can offer better, sometimes worse.

[MidlandsPete]

Hi All
New member here.
I'm looking to get into a Rav4 2014 CVT AWD in the next month (invincible Trim so it has a few toys).
We've narrowed our search down to a Rav4 as our current Kia Venga is just a little bit too small, and we need petrol as we only do around 3K a year and it has to be auto.
We did also shortlist a CRV but that is difficult for my wife to enter as the door opening, although on paper bigger, just doesn't work for my wife, whereas the Rav is no problem for her.  

So my query is, having read through this whole thread, I can't seem to identify any post that describes what models are actually affected.

I think I've worked out that the Gen 5 are affected until around 2023 when Toyota appeared to get their act together and sort out the CAN bus. The retro fit metal blocking plates also seem to be available for Gen 5 with a little push from Toyota Customer Service when necessary.

But I'm sure there are some posts saying 2018 have been stolen by CAN bus injection which I'm guessing is the same electrics as my intended 2014 model as presumably the 2015 facelift was cosmetic? Or were these early Gen 5's?

The reason that I need to be clear on this aspect is because my wife is disabled and we often have various disabled aids in the car boot. Also I don't want to think my wife might be stranded without her disability aids if she is out on her own. She can still drive but it needs to be an auto.

I have done a sample insurance quote and that came back as £80 more than the Venga (£305 as against our current £225)  which suggests it isn't on insurers hit list (yet!)

If we go ahead with purchase, we will be getting and using a Stoplock (not needed on Venga as frankly they are not a nickable car, especially with the 4 speed auto which wouldn't pull skin off rice pudding!),  but can anyone say if the pre-facelift Rav Gen4 has a the CAN bus issue or was it not a problem until the Gen 5 builds?

[flash22]

gen 4 has no issues, the can bus attack is on the hybrid and not the Phev gen 5

there is a crossover between the gen4 and 5

Gen 4 up to 09/2019

early gen5 is from 11/2018

 

you should be fine with a gen4

[Fostel]

On 6/17/2024 at 9:45 PM, Rav Rob said:

My understanding of AA, from previous policies with them, is they are actually just brokers, like Hastings etc so your actual insurance is with a company you may not have heard of but doesn't mean its bad. So like any broker deals available to them change all the time, sometimes they can offer better, sometimes worse.

I know they use different underwrites for different stuff, but mine is actually

AA Car InsuranceAA Underwriting Insurance Company Limited
Unit 2.1, Waterport Place
2 Europort Road, Gibraltar, GX11 1AA

[Terry10]

I took an AA quote via a comparison site and it was Aviva  ( defaqto )

Ironically my previous year/ renewal was with Aviva  so ended up getting the same policy a lot of money cheaper

Terry

 

[Vermontman]

Is this for keyed rav4s also? Or just the push button? In Montréal and trying to figure this out 

[philip42h]

5 minutes ago, Vermontman said:

Is this for keyed rav4s also? Or just the push button? In Montréal and trying to figure this out 

The CANbus vulnerability applies to cars with keyless entry and start only ...

[chilaspt]

I wonder if we can get this software update?

[philip42h]

5 hours ago, chilaspt said:

I wonder if we can get this software update?

Yes of course - you just need to buy a new car ... 😉

Sorry for the flippant response, but this refers to the 'design change' implemented in production since October 2022. It is almost certainly not a simple 'software update' (but the folk writing in the magazine aren't going to know that!).

[Strangely Brown]

5 hours ago, chilaspt said:

I wonder if we can get this software update?

Probably not as it would likely require newer hardware than installed in the 2019-2022 HEVs.

Edit: That said, the PHEV is unaffected and was launched in 2019 for 2020 sales. I do not the difference between HEV and PHEV in the relevant security components or why.

[vic23]

Just found out (the hard way) how good the Rav4 security is. Lost mine in two minutes No keys required!!!!

Have got CCTV footage to back it up

Toyota have told me they are sorry. 

[Nick72]

Oh ****! Sorry to see this.

Did you have the new access blockers fitted? Although it seems like they got to the CANbus through the headlight?

Long thread on here about RAV4 theft.

[philip42h]

That's great footage of a CANbus theft. See:

and:

I'm sorry too ...

[Hybrid21]

Wow, that was quick 😲

[FROSTYBALLS]

Similar topics merged.

[Xanadu_999]

I'll just have to imagine what happend.

[philip42h]

2 minutes ago, Xanadu_999 said:

I'll just have to imagine what happend.

You will ... there's nothing 'wrong' with the video as posted (the problem appears to be at your end 😉 )

[pandor83]

Did you manage to get the car back? If youve setup the Toyota app you can track the location of the car. A few hours after mine was taken the police had picked it up, would have been a lot soon if I realised the app connects remotely. The app gave me the thief's driving score...