Anything ever gone wrong?

[WALLOP]

I used to have a Ford mondeo mk3 TDCI diesel and on the Ford owners forum the only thing you ever heard about was problems.

Having joined this forum 6 years ago initially on the Avensis group the Toyota forum is so different because you never hear of any mechanical issues with the new Corolla. Now i know they are only 3 or so years old and the 1.8 engine has been around a while but has anyone ever had any mechanical issues with the new Corolla?

I have the new 2.0 engine which is apparently very complex. So i am either in for a rocky time in the years to come or Toyota really have engineered this car very well.

[TonyHSD]

Nothing to worry. It’s a Toyota and all been tested. There are some high mileage RAV4’s in us with similar engine. No problems at all. 👍

[Cyker]

It *is* weird! My first car was a Ford so I went through most of my new driver phase assuming that having to replace random things was a normal part of car ownership!

It was quite eye-opening with my Mk1 Yaris that, actually, none of this stuff ever needs changing! This is why I'm too scared to move away from Toyota now as all I've never needed to replace any major non-wearing parts in the time I've owned any of them! (Well, except in the Mk2 Yaris but I think that was just a lemon...).

The hybrids should be even worse for that as they don't have clutches and the brakes hardly get used because of the regen so aside from oil and filter changes its possible nothing will need replacement until I wear down the bearings in 10 years time!  

[Mojo1010]

11.5 years ownership of 3 Toyota's so far, reliability 2nd to none. Nothing major gone wrong, there are always some that had some problems but less than other manufacturers. Have ordered another Yaris for next year, this tells you something! 

 

[Derek.w]

I am on my 3 Yaris need I say more!.

[Dylanfan]

Agreed, been with Citroen since 1984, no major problems but a forum full of people with problems, admittedly with older cars.

Still have a 1999 V6 Xantia that has been pretty reliable.

Moved to Toyota because I didn’t like anything in the Citroen range. I was changing cars at about 3 yearly intervals as the warranty ran out. Toyota warranty is much longer and I feel confident that the car won’t throw up any issues.

As said, it’s a Toyota.

[Swanthecat]

Fuel pump recall/safety checks, paint issues with rust around hinges in tailgate, fading plastic trim, rattling panoramic roof, software issues - just a few of the complaints I have seen on here in the past year or two and these are only the ones I can remember. 

[AndrueC]

I just had my first example of the auto-dip definitely being wrong. I got flashed just as I manually dipped the lights. This time there can be no excuse. I could see a sign on the opposite side of the carriageway being lit up just over the top of the oncoming car.

It was here where there is a very slight rise where the white car is. Perhaps that's what confused the car but still - it got it wrong. Ain't no arguing with that.

But other than that (and it's rare) the car has been great. No failures. Lovely to drive and better than 60 mpg. What's not to like?

🙂

[TonyHSD]

2 hours ago, Swanthecat said:

Fuel pump recall/safety checks, paint issues with rust around hinges in tailgate, fading plastic trim, rattling panoramic roof, software issues - just a few of the complaints I have seen on here in the past year or two and these are only the ones I can remember. 

These are just niggles and there is a dedicated post about them. The real problems with cars are those that can prevent you from driving or ever arrive at your destination. Toyota cars are as good as cars can be these days. 👍

[Bper]

Well hearing from long term owner's must be the most positive recommendations you can get.

 

[Jimota]

I can’t complain about Audi/VW/Skoda as every vehicle that I owned over 30 years never let me down.  I just got bored with them in the end and started to look at at other brands.  Did my homework and Toyota ticked all the boxes for my current needs.

[Gray86]

My parents owned Toyotas in the 90s. Anything go wrong? NO. NEVER. 
 

I’ve had fords, VWs, Hondas etc in my youth, and now following in my dads footprints with a Corolla, which I’ve owned for 2 years. Anything go wrong? NO.

 

my wife has a Yaris 1.33 Sport which we have owned since it was 2 years old, it’s now nearly 8 years old. Always lives outside, and driven with little mechanical sympathy (not sure my wife knows that what means!). Any problems? Have a guess. . 

[WALLOP]

It's my experience on various websites that people are more likely to use them to condemn a product or service rather than praise a product or service. They are often used by people in order to share a problem with the site users so that they can find a solution to the problem.

Of the issues raised so far none seem to be of a mechanical nature relating to failure of the engines or drivetrains and i find this remarkable, and great credit must be given to the Japanese for their engineering skills.

I used to own a Honda Accord 1.8 petrol about 20 years ago which had the variable valve timing engine which was probably in it's design infancy back then. If this very complex system malfunctioned it would would cause catastrophic damage to the engine. I was told by a honda service engineer a while back that he had never heard of any failures with variable valve timing on these engines so it must be down to the way Japanese engineers make small improvements to existing designs and thoroughly test them prior to making them available to the public that provides the long term reliability.

I feel too many companies have the opposite approach where they push out new technology very quickly in order to try and be first to the market but are happy to have the paying public do the long term testing. 

 

[Bper]

I Have owned a Honda and had lots of problems with the auto box and it had to be brought back by the dealer after being off the road for 6 weeks and they could not find the problem. However have owned two lexus IS 200 and no problems with both.

[Rhymes with Paris]

19 year old Yaris, nothing gone wrong.

The Battery went flat when it stood for a while last winter, not the car's fault, jump start and ok.

As with so many things,if it's properly built in the first place and maintained well, it is rare to have problems.

Having said that, I do have fingers crossed 🤞 that nothing will go wrong, and not tempt fate.

 

[Mojo1010]

To be fair, the Yaris MK2 mmt 'autobox' had big failure issues. 

[Dylanfan]

12 hours ago, WALLOP said:

It's my experience on various websites that people are more likely to use them to condemn a product or service rather than praise a product or service. They are often used by people in order to share a problem with the site users so that they can find a solution to the problem.

Of the issues raised so far none seem to be of a mechanical nature relating to failure of the engines or drivetrains and i find this remarkable, and great credit must be given to the Japanese for their engineering skills.

I used to own a Honda Accord 1.8 petrol about 20 years ago which had the variable valve timing engine which was probably in it's design infancy back then. If this very complex system malfunctioned it would would cause catastrophic damage to the engine. I was told by a honda service engineer a while back that he had never heard of any failures with variable valve timing on these engines so it must be down to the way Japanese engineers make small improvements to existing designs and thoroughly test them prior to making them available to the public that provides the long term reliability.

I feel too many companies have the opposite approach where they push out new technology very quickly in order to try and be first to the market but are happy to have the paying public do the long term testing. 

 

Agreed.
I don’t think you can judge reliability my looking on a forum, by its nature, it’s used to find answers to problems. I had a Citroen XM for over 16 years with the first 5 being my only car. The related forums & the Citroen Car Club magazine were full of horror stores while had almost trouble free motoring. 

[Gerg]

1 hour ago, Dylanfan said:

Agreed.
I don’t think you can judge reliability my looking on a forum, by its nature, it’s used to find answers to problems. I had a Citroen XM for over 16 years with the first 5 being my only car. The related forums & the Citroen Car Club magazine were full of horror stores while had almost trouble free motoring. 

Whilst I broadly agree with that, is it not the case that the forums can also give you an idea as to the type of problems a brand of car can suffer, and also the variety?

The Citroen XM is an interesting illustration as to Citroen's quirky French charm (I am actually a bit of a Citroen fan, btw).  Didn't the early XMs suffer electrical problems because the wiring looms were made too short?  All that superb automotive design, but it seems the wiring loom was signed-off on a Friday afternoon?!

Problems with Toyotas generally don't prompt the classic 'rolling eyes' response that other car brands can do.

The Japanese obsessive attention to detail (particularly the homemade products) and mastery of everything electrical, has really paid off for them, but the rest of the world, especially the Koreans, have narrowed the gap enormously. 

I get the impression that the Japanese industry is thick with engineering and maths graduates - everything is all very logical and neat.  Unlike, say, the Italians.

I'm of an age to remember just how far ahead of the rest of the world Sony Trinitron colour tvs were, for example.  The electronics ran so cool!  And they showed how something as complex as a video recorder could be made to be reliable - I remember stripping down an early Philips (so from the Netherlands) VHS video recorder, it was absolute rubbish in every respect compared to a Panasonic.

I used to sometimes work on Fujitsu mainframe computers - the design, from a maintenance point of view, certainly, was just so thorough!!!  The IBM competition (US and to a lesser extent European designed/made) was innovative but badly thought-through.

Excuse the nostalgia trip...

These products are really just an extension of the culture, inevitably.

 

[Mojo1010]

A forum can be informative on both reliability and problem of a particular car or part. 

[Obsidian Estate]

I know the GT86 is technically a Subaru, but it has a Toyota Badge on it. Only issue I had with mine in over 3 years, was a headlight bulb blew.

So if the Corolla is as reliable I'll be happy.

[Cyker]

IIRC the engine is deffo subaru, but most of the rest of the car is Toyota, including a lot of the stuff on the engine like the various pumps and filters and stuff!

[Dylanfan]

Yes Greg, the XM did have electrical problems on the series 1 cars because they reinvented the connectors, my car was an early series 2 that was very reliable. One of the main issues with the car was that so few were sold that most main dealers hadn’t seen one. I bought my car at two years old and it was still a demo car,

22 hours ago, Gerg said:

Whilst I broadly agree with that, is it not the case that the forums can also give you an idea as to the type of problems a brand of car can suffer, and also the variety?

The Citroen XM is an interesting illustration as to Citroen's quirky French charm (I am actually a bit of a Citroen fan, btw).  Didn't the early XMs suffer electrical problems because the wiring looms were made too short?  All that superb automotive design, but it seems the wiring loom was signed-off on a Friday afternoon?!

Problems with Toyotas generally don't prompt the classic 'rolling eyes' response that other car brands can do.

The Japanese obsessive attention to detail (particularly the homemade products) and mastery of everything electrical, has really paid off for them, but the rest of the world, especially the Koreans, have narrowed the gap enormously. 

I get the impression that the Japanese industry is thick with engineering and maths graduates - everything is all very logical and neat.  Unlike, say, the Italians.

I'm of an age to remember just how far ahead of the rest of the world Sony Trinitron colour tvs were, for example.  The electronics ran so cool!  And they showed how something as complex as a video recorder could be made to be reliable - I remember stripping down an early Philips (so from the Netherlands) VHS video recorder, it was absolute rubbish in every respect compared to a Panasonic.

I used to sometimes work on Fujitsu mainframe computers - the design, from a maintenance point of view, certainly, was just so thorough!!!  The IBM competition (US and to a lesser extent European designed/made) was innovative but badly thought-through.

Excuse the nostalgia trip...

These products are really just an extension of the culture, inevitably.

 

As I found out to my cost, if something went wrong, find a specialist not a main dealer. The same thing happened with the C6.

 

[bigblock]

The only thing that comes to mind with the current Corolla's and the previous Auris Hybrids is the 12v Battery going flat. It's not happened to me as I know how to look after it, but it has caught alot of owners out and there is a lot of discussion about it on this forum. 

[twintopp]

having driven vauxhall for 35 years ,dismayed at the quality and service of my last model ,two cars back i swapped to toyota and have been gobsmacked at the quality  and reliability of both cars ,so thumbs up from me having no problems up to now.  

[WALLOP]

Apparently Toyota has enpowered anyone on it's production workforce to be able to stop the whole production line if they see any issues during production which they feel could cause an immediate or long term problem to the vehicle. This ability goes without any fear of disciplinary action if the employee is totally wrong.

I don't think many manufacturing plants would allow anyone below management level to have this ability due to the huge cost of stopping and starting a production run.

Another reason maybe why Toyota vehicles have such a good record of reliability.