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I used the trick on one of my previous cars where I had a bit more room. Never tried it on the Aygo.
In the Aygo, I guess the place with the most safety would be on the ground, in front of the passenger chair that is put in max backward position...

Then position the heater it can suck in air well on the back and aim the warm air as far away from any surface as possible. That would mean : position it towards the drivers' door ..

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I've got offroad parking and an outside power socket so I run a small electric fan heater in the car off an extension lead for 10 mins and this clears both inside and out.

It's the only real effective way I've found as otherwise you just end up basically pushing the water round the windscreen 😁

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And......the bad news is..... when your Toyotas are 30 years old the ice and condensation inside gets progressively worse......if I want a good shower I just put the heater on and lie across the dashboard 🤣 - having said that they compensate me by still always starting first time despite living outside on the top of a hill - just keep a good supply of microfibre cloths and kitchen towel 😎

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I have the same problem with condensation on the windscreen, I have to leave the car for ages to warm up in this weather. Have to allow enough time taking the boys to school. 

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Not trying to be clever here, and I do feel for those of you with dripping glass.

But getting into my nearly 20 year old Yaris today after it freezing overnight, I didn't see any condensation at all.

I did let the engine run on the drive for 5 mins to warm the interior and defrost the screen, but even getting in it to start it, there was none.

So the only difference I can think of is changes in manufacturing methods or type of seals in newish cars.

The only time that I have noticed the wet glass is when I have been sat behind diesel fume belching cars and vans and turned the lever to recirculate, and then forgotten to turn it back.

*Then Neil's post above says the older they get the worse they get, so dunno 🤔

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In my case I'm assuming it's the seals being less "buoyant" than they once were because it's only been in the last few years that this has happened.  I treat the seals every year with the Pflege Gummy Stick thingy - so they are in tact but less full. 

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1 hour ago, Rhymes with Paris said:

Not trying to be clever here, and I do feel for those of you with dripping glass.

But getting into my nearly 20 year old Yaris today after it freezing overnight, I didn't see any condensation at all.

I did let the engine run on the drive for 5 mins to warm the interior and defrost the screen, but even getting in it to start it, there was none.

So the only difference I can think of is changes in manufacturing methods or type of seals in newish cars.

The only time that I have noticed the wet glass is when I have been sat behind diesel fume belching cars and vans and turned the lever to recirculate, and then forgotten to turn it back.

*Then Neil's post above says the older they get the worse they get, so dunno 🤔

Well Paul, problem solved we will all come to stay with you during the winter months. Hope you have enough room.😅 On a serious note even those with newer models have this problem. Maybe they made the seals better when your car was made.

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Aye Neil, I got some of that gummi stuff for the first time last year.

It seems to plump up the rubber,a bit like collagen injections plump the lips of people with selfie sticks.

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Trying to understand why even the owners of new models are having this problem. My next door neighbour has a VW T Rock 1 year old and he has the same problem.

I wonder if it relates to different temperatures throughout the country.

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4 minutes ago, Bper said:

Well Paul, problem solved we will all come to stay with you during the winter months. Hope you have enough room.😅 On a serious note even those with newer models have this problem. Maybe they made the seals better when your car was made.

Aye Bob, and you would all be welcome, the back garden is about 100 ft long, so plenty of room for tents.

Just as long as my magic money tree is left alone.

Its -3 here at the moment with around 90% humidity if my cheap plastic barometer is correct.

Could it be compared with older houses being less prone to condensation compared with newer "sealed up" ones.

As in older houses have chimneys and drafty doors often, so are ventilated.

So possibly being the opposite of my theory of the seals not working, maybe they are working too well, and no natural ventilation.

I really don't understand why so many new cars are having such problems.

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I have a feeling people suffering from chronic condensation inside need to clean that chemical film I talk about off the inside of the windows - I did mine and it's been a lot better. At a pinch, spray a washer jet onto a microfibre cloth and give the inside of the window a good wiping.

They also need to check for sources of water in the car - The condensation doesn't just appear out of nowhere; It has to come from somewhere. If the car is shut and all windows closed, the the cold wet outside air won't get into the car so the water must be in the car somewhere. I would guess there might be water in the wheel well, or it's coming from the seat foam. If the car has been left open for ages then the cold wet air outside will fill the car and lightly soak into all the fabrics.

Getting some of those desiccant pouches as people have linked to or from e.g. Robert Dyas will likely help over time, as will leaving the AC on while the car is in use, as it will supply dry air that will slowly draw out moisture embedded in the car.

 

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YOU are the most obvious source for moisture.  Damp from your shoes and clothes, exhaled breath.  Three up with aircon and fans off and you fill the car with warm damp air that will condense on cold glass. 

After a trip you then lock the car with all that warm humid air sealed inside.  The car cools and the humid air condenses. 

Rinse and repeat. 

Aircon will dry out the air. 

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No air con - but I will dry myself thoroughly before entering 🤣 I suspect you could be right - recent lots of rain - in an out of car - mats getting wet etc.

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I have to ask how many see condensation on the inside of your double glazed windows in this weather. If a car is sealed then it must retain a certain amount of heat. The water condenses on the surface when the temperature of the surface is below the dew point of the air that's near that surface. 

When you have warmer humid air next to a cooler glass it's going to condense and cause mist on the screen. 

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Nope, don't get it in the house either 😁

But I do have a bit of a drafty house with a chimney too, and need new exterior doors the old ones let a bit of draft.

Also I do not dry washing on radiators or have a tumble dryer.

My pal who rents out a couple of houses,(the one with the mummified rats) also found the radiators being pushed away from the walls, there was so much wet washing stuffed onto them.

The tenants did complain a lot about condensation in winter with all the windows shut tight.

Though strangely not about rats.

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Rainx anti fog and shaving cream seem to be the answer on tested windows thanks to YouTube,. Haven't tried this yet but will give it a go. Anyone else tried these and what was the results.

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11 minutes ago, Rhymes with Paris said:

Nope, don't get it in the house either 😁

But I do have a bit of a drafty house with a chimney too, and need new exterior doors the old ones let a bit of draft.

Also I do not dry washing on radiators or have a tumble dryer.

My pal who rents out a couple of houses,(the one with the mummified rats) also found the radiators being pushed away from the walls, there was so much wet washing stuffed onto them.

The tenants did complain a lot about condensation in winter with all the windows shut tight.

Though strangely not about rats.

We also do not have a tumble dryer or put washing on the rads but in this really cold weather do get a little condensation in the morning when the heating kicks in . It does clear but we go round the windows and wipe any excess water off the rubbers etc.

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