Tyre Life (17" Falken)

[TonyHSD]

1 hour ago, Mooly said:

Just looking at my tyres (MOT on Tuesday). These are Dunlop Blue Response Sports fitted Feb 25th 2016 so exactly 7 years old now. Mileage when fitted was 41972 and mileage now is 92280. Mileage covered 50308. 

They have been rotated once and these are the fronts. The rears are similar. Depth gauge shows even wear across the width. Showing just under 5mm which is pretty amazing really.

 

 

They look very good indeed. There are tiny cracks and the tread has lost it sipes that are very helpful in slippery conditions. At this point I am starting to look for another set if we are in autumn but for you and if you don’t drive as much you can easily run them this summer too. 🛞👌

[Mooly]

6 hours ago, TonyHSD said:

At this point I am starting to look for another set if we are in autumn but for you and if you don’t drive as much you can easily run them this summer too.

Oh yes ☺️ and seeing as the Auris gets dry weather use pretty much exclusively the slicker the better... who said that 🤣

I had two budget tyres put on the front of ancient Corolla early last year. That does little mileage overall. The brand was Nexen? which was a new one on me but I have to say they ride well, they are quiet and seem grippy enough. On the motorway and they seem excellent. Quite impressed with them actually for what they are. These Nexen look to have a much more 'traditional' sort of grove and tread pattern. Nothing like the Dunlops in that respect.   

[TonyHSD]

7 minutes ago, Mooly said:

Oh yes ☺️ and seeing as the Auris gets dry weather use pretty much exclusively the slicker the better... who said that 🤣

I had two budget tyres put on the front of ancient Corolla early last year. That does little mileage overall. The brand was Nexen? which was a new one on me but I have to say they ride well, they are quiet and seem grippy enough. On the motorway and they seem excellent. Quite impressed with them actually for what they are. These Nexen look to have a much more 'traditional' sort of grove and tread pattern. Nothing like the Dunlops in that respect.   

Nexen are very good mid range tyres that together with Hankook are going towards been higher grade than mid rangers. These two Korean brands comes as oem in some manufacturers including vw. I had my winter tyres from Nexen and they did performed very well. Lasted approximately 50k miles over 4 winters and again what kill them was the cracks.
The strangething is that all my tyres get cracks on the inner side wall and nothing on the outside with minimal cracks along the tread, something very difficult to spot unless you have the wheels off the car. Highly recommended to anyone who has 3year or older tures and never rotate them to do so and to carefully inspect the inner side walls and the treads for dry rot and cracks.

Here both my summer and winter sets replaced last year.  

[Mooly]

58 minutes ago, TonyHSD said:

Nexen are very good mid range tyres that together with Hankook are going towards been higher grade than mid rangers.

Interesting. I would certainly consider them again.

 

59 minutes ago, TonyHSD said:

The strangething is that all my tyres get cracks on the inner side wall and nothing on the outside with minimal cracks along the tread, something very difficult to spot unless you have the wheels off the car.

That looks bad tbh, I've never seen anything like that before. I suppose it depends how deep they are but even so...

[fred88]

I've just bought my Corolla at 13k miles and just over a year old. Didn't notice until it was home on the drive that the Falkens on the front were down to about 2mm in the middle and 3 to 4mm on the outside (poor inflation?). My fault for not noticing before purchasing, but thought I'd try my luck and had a moan at the sales guy at the (Toyota) dealership where I bought it. Said i was disappointed that i was going to have to soon replace the fronts on a car they'd sold. To their credit they agreed to replace them, said it would be Falken or Nexen. Ended up with Nexen and 1st impression is good. Seem quieter and a softer ride than the Falkens they replaced.

Just thought I'd feed that back on here.

Very happy with the car too!

All the best.

[TonyHSD]

Here another interesting video how cars do turn and why tyres with softer side walls and more rubber actually are grippier than ultra low profile and harder tyres. 🛞👍

 

[Don Mac]

1 hour ago, TonyHSD said:

Here another interesting video how cars do turn and why tyres with softer side walls and more rubber actually are grippier than ultra low profile and harder tyres. 🛞👍

It was going well, until he started on about centrifugal force... (apparently the internet has decided that this is a real force now?)

[Gray86]

18 hours ago, fred88 said:

I've just bought my Corolla at 13k miles and just over a year old. Didn't notice until it was home on the drive that the Falkens on the front were down to about 2mm in the middle and 3 to 4mm on the outside (poor inflation?). My fault for not noticing before purchasing, but thought I'd try my luck and had a moan at the sales guy at the (Toyota) dealership where I bought it. Said i was disappointed that i was going to have to soon replace the fronts on a car they'd sold. To their credit they agreed to replace them, said it would be Falken or Nexen. Ended up with Nexen and 1st impression is good. Seem quieter and a softer ride than the Falkens they replaced.

Just thought I'd feed that back on here.

Very happy with the car too!

All the best.

Interesting to hear of someone else with same tread wear as mine on Falkens. My tyres are always perfectly inflated to the lower numbers in the door (3 passengers) and have worn out exactly as yours have. 
 

I’m now running Goodyears all round. 

[Niky]

I've been wanting to change mine 16inch Continentals, but surprisingly they are wearing not bad at all. Hate them for being too noisy, though. I've done just under 20k miles - my car will be exactly 1 year old tomorrow. Picked it on 1st of March last year with 3 miles on the clock. 

Been following the tyre conversations here and seems I will be going for the GoodYears EGP 2. Will most likely wait another 10k miles, though. It seems the Continentals will do a bit over 30k miles

[TonyHSD]

I would like to share something else here about the tyres. 
Because the car came originally with 215/45 17 wheels and tyres set they were wearing faster against the new size which is 205/55 16., and this is no matter what type or brand of tyres were fitted. 
I don’t know exactly the reason for that, perhaps the 16” set are more suitable for the car body and mass.
Another + for the 16” w+t set is that even with a new summer tyres during the last snow time the car was drivable and there was so much grip that it felt like I am on all season tyres instead. That was not the case before with 17” size and also a brand new different make tyres. I believe that not only the tyre make and model but also the size matters when we are talking about tyres, grip and longevity. 🛞👍

[JoaoM]

Narrower tyres have better grip in wet and snow; you have changed from 215 to 205 and another aspect ratio. I have a link somewhere to a thread area in function of other parameters. Very educational, I'll try to find it and post it.

[Jackx1]

Post has been very helpful. Just about to pull the trigger on some new Goodyear ep2. Just wondering is it worth going for the XL type? Ride is quite important for me however. Choices I have are.

225/45 R17 94W XL

or 

225/45 R17 91W

 

 

 

[TonyHSD]

11 minutes ago, Jackx1 said:

Post has been very helpful. Just about to pull the trigger on some new Goodyear ep2. Just wondering is it worth going for the XL type? Ride is quite important for me however. Choices I have are.

225/45 R17 94W XL

or 

225/45 R17 91W

 

 

 

Hi, 

here you can check your original size, also you can look at the tyres if they are the original one too and if no XL specifications are needed better go for non xl tyres. Extra load tyres has thicker side walls to be able to carry more load but at expense of harsher drive. If comfort and efficiency is your priority best to stick to non xl tyres. https://www.wheel-size.com/size/toyota/corolla/e210-2018-now-7a/#region-eudm
👍

[Mojo1010]

5 hours ago, Niky said:

I've been wanting to change mine 16inch Continentals, but surprisingly they are wearing not bad at all. Hate them for being too noisy, though. I've done just under 20k miles - my car will be exactly 1 year old tomorrow. Picked it on 1st of March last year with 3 miles on the clock. 

Been following the tyre conversations here and seems I will be going for the GoodYears EGP 2. Will most likely wait another 10k miles, though. It seems the Continentals will do a bit over 30k miles

Had a set of conti on a previous car, manage 30k miles in 3 years with one rotation. Mainly city driving, for someone doing a lot of motorways I think can get 60k+ miles with a rotation. 

Have falkens on front of current Yaris and Goodyear EGP1 on rear. The falken doesn't wear as well as the conti I find. Will be rotating them shortly as front are about 4mm left, with new car coming end of year. 

[Jackx1]

2 hours ago, TonyHSD said:

Hi, 

here you can check your original size, also you can look at the tyres if they are the original one too and if no XL specifications are needed better go for non xl tyres. Extra load tyres has thicker side walls to be able to carry more load but at expense of harsher drive. If comfort and efficiency is your priority best to stick to non xl tyres. https://www.wheel-size.com/size/toyota/corolla/e210-2018-now-7a/#region-eudm
👍

Thanks tony very helpful. Gone for the non XL 

[Cyker]

On 2/27/2023 at 5:21 PM, Don Mac said:

It was going well, until he started on about centrifugal force... (apparently the internet has decided that this is a real force now?)

Aha! A fellow scientist!   

I must admit, every time he said Centrifugal Force I was getting PTSD flashbacks of our physics teacher screaming at us "THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS CENTRIFUGAL FORCE! ONLY CENTRIPETAL FORCE!!" any time someone said "centrifugal force"!   

[Don Mac]

4 minutes ago, Cyker said:

 

Aha! A fellow scientist!   

I must admit, every time he said Centrifugal Force I was getting PTSD flashbacks of our physics teacher screaming at us "THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS CENTRIFUGAL FORCE! ONLY CENTRIPETAL FORCE!!" any time someone said "centrifugal force"!   

 

Yes, I'm a pedant 🙂

It's bad enough when the meaning of words like "ironic" can be changed by popular usage. Surely we should draw the line at the laws of physics!

[Cyker]

I know, it sets me off like like a bowl in a china shop!   

 

Sorry sorry I couldn't resist  

By way of apology, have some more!

 

 

 

[JoaoM]

Found it!

http://bndtechsource.ucoz.com/index/tire_data_calculator/0-20

Calculation isn't working on my phone but last time I tested on PC it was ok

[TonyHSD]

15 hours ago, Jackx1 said:

Thanks tony very helpful. Gone for the non XL 

You are welcome.
Please let us know what do you think about the new set when fitted.
I had previously on 17” size Goodyear efficient grip performance 1 and they looked very nice on the wheels imo, they seemed to have smaller rim protector however I never had any issues with that plus they were as comfortable as 16” set. 
I only used them for one season but traveled 39000 miles. 

 

[Niky]

What is most important for you when choosing a tyre?

For my driving style this will be 

1.Noise

2.Tyre life/wear - at least 40k miles

3.Low fuel consumption/rolling resistance 

I am a very calm and relaxed driver now. Always leave plenty of space between the car in front of me and (almost) never go over the 70mph speed limit in UK. Gone are the days when I would have fun pushing the corners, overtake, etc....

Which is the best tyre for me guys?😀

As I said in an earlier post, most likely will be getting GoodYears EGP 2 (although I am not in need of new tyres yet). I just love reading tyre reviews in my free time, and obviously looking for some more "tyre" chat😀

[TonyHSD]

54 minutes ago, Niky said:

What is most important for you when choosing a tyre?

For my driving style this will be 

1.Noise

2.Tyre life/wear - at least 40k miles

3.Low fuel consumption/rolling resistance 

I am a very calm and relaxed driver now. Always leave plenty of space between the car in front of me and (almost) never go over the 70mph speed limit in UK. Gone are the days when I would have fun pushing the corners, overtake, etc....

Which is the best tyre for me guys?😀

As I said in an earlier post, most likely will be getting GoodYears EGP 2 (although I am not in need of new tyres yet). I just love reading tyre reviews in my free time, and obviously looking for some more "tyre" chat😀

+1 for Goodyear efficient grip performance 2.
The driving style and your points of interest about the tyres matching exactly my driving style, needs and general car use and I am on my second set of egp2 and won’t change these for anything else.
First set lasted over 60 k miles and could possibly go easily up to 80-90k miles but I wanted to try all seasons which I did not liked at all., and I bought a new set of egp 2. 

[Niky]

I've had Michelin CrossClimates (the very first ones) before, and was very happy with them. However last 5 years we haven't seen much of a snow in Hampshire and I never had a problem going to work (driving on M3) with summer tyres. Before the Corolla I had a Civic with Michelin Primacy 4(had the CrossClimates on the Civic before the Primacy 4s) wich were also good(especially in the corners) and very quiet, but think they used a bit more fuel and didn't last as long as the CrossClimates. Have had Goodyears EGP, but those lasted less than 20k miles - they were very good on fuel and were quiet too, but was very disappointed with the wear. 

Also have had Firestones, Toyo and Landsail years ago, but I didn't care much about tyres then, also didn't drive as much as I drive now. In fact I was driving 2-3k miles per year vs +20k now. I used to change my cars every 6 months also, just for fun and experience. Will stick with the Corolla for now, until I manage to get my hands on a Lexus ES300h which I am planning to do in the future. 

 

[Gray86]

5 hours ago, Niky said:

What is most important for you when choosing a tyre?

For my driving style this will be 

1.Noise

2.Tyre life/wear - at least 40k miles

3.Low fuel consumption/rolling resistance 

I am a very calm and relaxed driver now. Always leave plenty of space between the car in front of me and (almost) never go over the 70mph speed limit in UK. Gone are the days when I would have fun pushing the corners, overtake, etc....

Which is the best tyre for me guys?😀

As I said in an earlier post, most likely will be getting GoodYears EGP 2 (although I am not in need of new tyres yet). I just love reading tyre reviews in my free time, and obviously looking for some more "tyre" chat😀

I had a similar list to you, but  in addition, didn’t want to worsen the handling / grip of the OEM falkens (basically I wanted the tyre to do everything well 😜). The EGP2 really nails it, I don’t have a bad word to say about them after 400 miles. 

[bunnyrabbit03]

Possible thread drift, but I thought I would post it anyway 😉 

The Corolla was booked in for the DCM software update today and I had requested a courtesy car. The courtesy car turned out to be an Aygo X with Michelin E Primacy tyres. But with today's heavy snow etc., the car had virtually no grip and I barely made it off the forecourt. To cut a long story short: I returned the Aygo X after five minutes of driving and rebooked the appointment for later this month - the combination of summer tyres in the snow, the very wet weather and the low temperatures was an accident waiting to happen. The Michelin CrossClimate 2s, by contrast, are excellent - no issues with snow etc. whatsoever 👍