RAV4 Mk5 tyres

[Dushio]

Hi. I’m just passing 32k miles on my RAV4 mk5 HEV and the tread is just about 2mm now on the front and 3mm on the back with 1 rotation at 19k miles. I think the prev owner might have gunned it a bit as I would usually expect 35k+ from a set, anyway time to change, can anyone recommend a tyre they are happy with, also I was thinking about increasing the width to 235 from the OE 225 as a) they’re slightly cheaper (at Costco anyway) and b) might give a little bit more stability on the rd (not that the 225’s are unstable). I was intending to keep the depth the same at 60 and not reduce to 55, these are 18 inch wheels. Grateful for any thoughts. 

[FROSTYBALLS]

Do a tyre/speedometer check to ensure they won't make the speedometer under read, which is illegal.

Various websites out there to check speedometer error when changing tyre size.

[philip42h]

27 minutes ago, Dushio said:

can anyone recommend a tyre they are happy with

I'm very happy with my Michelin Cross Climates ...

I prefer all season tyres and am quite content with the standard size.

[Dushio]

I will check them out, any indication as to how they’re wearing or is it too early to say? Thanks for the info. 

[Nikonman]

You don't say what tyres yours has fitted, but mine came with the original Dunlop Grandtreks, which still had about 3-4mm on the fronts and 5mm on the rears after 20k. So I changed the fronts to Goodyear Effecient grip 2 suv's. The difference is like night and day. The Goodyears are much grippier, smoother riding and a lot quieter. They're so much better I think I'll change the rears as well, even though they've still got plenty of tread left.

 

[Dushio]

11 minutes ago, Nikonman said:

You don't say what tyres yours has fitted, but mine came with the original Dunlop Grandtreks, which still had about 3-4mm on the fronts and 5mm on the rears after 20k. So I changed the fronts to Goodyear Effecient grip 2 suv's. The difference is like night and day. The Goodyears are much grippier, smoother riding and a lot quieter. They're so much better I think I'll change the rears as well, even though they've still got plenty of tread left.

 

So my tyres were Dunlop Grandtreks as well, the Goodyears you mention are in my top 3, I was either thinking those or the Michelin Cross Climates ( they have a deal until end May 23 with £50 off a set of four) or the Goodyear HP All weather in the 235 60 18 ? 
I think ( now thinking about it) it’s probably a good idea to stick with the original size of 225 wide as it might affect warranty claims in the next 6 years (although being a Toyota, I’m sure there won’t be any)! Thanks for your help. 

[Roger_N]

13 hours ago, Dushio said:

Hi. I’m just passing 32k miles on my RAV4 mk5 HEV and the tread is just about 2mm now on the front and 3mm on the back with 1 rotation at 19k miles. I think the prev owner might have gunned it a bit as I would usually expect 35k+ from a set, anyway time to change, can anyone recommend a tyre they are happy with, also I was thinking about increasing the width to 235 from the OE 225 as a) they’re slightly cheaper (at Costco anyway) and b) might give a little bit more stability on the rd (not that the 225’s are unstable). I was intending to keep the depth the same at 60 and not reduce to 55, these are 18 inch wheels. Grateful for any thoughts. 

Check with your Costco outlet, I know mine in Chester will only fit OE sizes

[PCM]

Whatever brand I have ( I like quality all-seasons ), I always have the same brand and type on all 4 wheels.

When I bought my car they were a jumble of makes not known to me, so quickly changed to 4 of the same...

[Scottydog007]

I had a big issue when I changed tyre on a Honda CRV. The original were Bridgestone and my local garage only had Dunlop equivalents so I got those. But what a nightmare. The car vibrated like made, I got full tracking checked, but the noise and vibration was tremendous. When I then did research I then read, not to go away from manufacturers recommendation. It was so bad I had to have them removed.

It seems the tyre cut was the issue.

[Yugguy1970]

13 hours ago, Dushio said:

Hi. I’m just passing 32k miles on my RAV4 mk5 HEV and the tread is just about 2mm now on the front and 3mm on the back with 1 rotation at 19k miles. I think the prev owner might have gunned it a bit as I would usually expect 35k+ from a set, anyway time to change, can anyone recommend a tyre they are happy with, also I was thinking about increasing the width to 235 from the OE 225 as a) they’re slightly cheaper (at Costco anyway) and b) might give a little bit more stability on the rd (not that the 225’s are unstable). I was intending to keep the depth the same at 60 and not reduce to 55, these are 18 inch wheels. Grateful for any thoughts. 

https://tiresize.com/tyre-size-calculator/

 You would be over the recommended 1% difference from the original and the speedo would be under reading which is not good.

[philip42h]

13 hours ago, Dushio said:

I will check them out, any indication as to how they’re wearing or is it too early to say? Thanks for the info. 

It's a bit early to say and I don't really care since I don't do so many miles these days ... 😉

That said, I checked just now and am getting about 6,000 miles per mm - a fraction less on the front a fraction more on the rear but the wear rate is fairly even. So a set should give me 30k - 35k depending on when I decide they need changing. 🙂

[ernieb]

I’ve not changed my tyres on the PHEV since I bought it but had planned on doing so when I bought the car, I would have bought CrossClimates for sure. I’ve used this tyre on a few previous cars and have been really pleased with the overall wear and performance in all weathers. 
I didn’t change the AVIDS as I’ve been happy enough with how they have performed. Eventually they will be changed for CrossClimates.

[Flatcoat]

The OE spec Yokohamas are not UK/EU spec all season tyres so no good for markets where winter tyres are mandatory, although seem to be touted as such in some markets. They are also impossible to source in the UK. I ditched mine for Continental all season tyres after a few thousand miles, wasn’t impressed with Yoko’s and neither was my tyre fitter. The OE tyres are light but also seem to have a thin structure that is less resilient to penetration. 

[TonyHSD]

Goodyear efficient grip performance suv are probably the best summer tyres , they also can offer some good grip even during winters when they are new.
These tyres are very quiet, comfortable with excellent grip in all conditions, dry, wet,? 
Fuel efficient and with long tread life.
Very important to stay with exact oem size and not making any changes. I see some people deviate from the original size and this is very wrong. Wider tyres will reduce grip in slippery conditions, add extra weight, increase rolling resistance and fuel consumption., while adding very little lateral stability, almost unnoticeable. 
Michelin cross climate are excellent all season tyres, they do reduce efficiency a bit as they have higher rolling resistance and stiffer carcass construction, slightly less comfortable in comparison to summer tyres. 🛞👌

[Hybrid21]

If I keep my RAV4 long enough I'll certainly change the factory fitted Toyo tyres as they are far too noisy.

Only done about 12000mls at moment and a bit too early for a Scotsman to fit new tyres 😃

[Dushio]

4 hours ago, Roger_N said:

Check with your Costco outlet, I know mine in Chester will only fit OE sizes

Yes that's right but you can get a refund on fitting at time of purchase (I found out) and just carry them away for fitting elsewhere. Having said that, I'm going to stick with the advice here and leave the size as factory fitted. Goodyear 225 60 18 V rating are currently £115 ish incl fitting per tyre at Costco, that's the cheapest i've found.

[Dushio]

3 hours ago, Yugguy1970 said:

https://tiresize.com/tyre-size-calculator/

 You would be over the recommended 1% difference from the original and the speedo would be under reading which is not good.

That's really helpful to know, many thanks (decided to stay with OE size).

[Strangely Brown]

1 hour ago, Hybrid21 said:

If I keep my RAV4 long enough I'll certainly change the factory fitted Toyo tyres as they are far too noisy.

Only done about 12000mls at moment and a bit too early for a Scotsman to fit new tyres 😃

It's not just Scotsmen. The other end of the country does not like throwing away perfectly serviceable tyres either.

I, too, have about 12000 miles on the OE Toyo Proxes R46A tyres. I agree they are too noisy and I had decided that they were going to be changed at the earliest necessity as soon as I bought the car.

Interestingly, having had the car for a couple of weeks I happened to notice that one of the tyres is a Toyo R46 while the other three are R46A.  The odd tyre has a much newer datestamp too so I can only assume that the original owner had a non-repairable puncture and changed just the one tyre. Unfortunately the tyre shop that did it fitted the odd tyre.

I contacted Toyo to find out the difference between the R46A and the R46 and got a reply from the UK Technical Director & European Motorsport Manager. He said, "The R46A is the OE tyre for the RAV4, the R46 is the OE tyre for the Mazda CX-5. There is a slight difference in the tread pattern. Ideally you would fit the same all round, but mixing the 2 should not have any effect on the vehicle."

Anyway... they're coming off as soon as they get to 3mm and set of all seasons will go on.

https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2022-Tyre-Reviews-All-Season-Tyre-Test.htm


 

[Yugguy1970]

1 hour ago, Dushio said:

Yes that's right but you can get a refund on fitting at time of purchase (I found out) and just carry them away for fitting elsewhere. Having said that, I'm going to stick with the advice here and leave the size as factory fitted. Goodyear 225 60 18 V rating are currently £115 ish incl fitting per tyre at Costco, that's the cheapest i've found.

Let us know how you get on with them?  Like Chris up there I don't like the Dunlops either.  But like most of us I don't want to have to spend until they actually need changing.

[TonyHSD]

2 hours ago, Dushio said:

Yes that's right but you can get a refund on fitting at time of purchase (I found out) and just carry them away for fitting elsewhere. Having said that, I'm going to stick with the advice here and leave the size as factory fitted. Goodyear 225 60 18 V rating are currently £115 ish incl fitting per tyre at Costco, that's the cheapest i've found.

If you are after Goodyear make sure you are looking at correct model Goodyear efficient grip performance 2 suv https://www.asdatyres.co.uk/goodyear/efficientgrip-2/225-60-18-104-v-xl-efficientgrip-2?id=4038526076359

any other model made by Goodyear it’s not as highly rated and can be very different from these tyres and you will be better off with Michelin. These efficient grip performance 2 are the best summer tyres. 👍

[Flatcoat]

Before I switched to all season tyres I used Goodyear efficient grips and they were very good, (as are Goodyear's Vector 4 season tyres on my Merc). 

[Dushio]

So Update on my tyre debacle; I've booked in to have Michelin Crossclimate 2's fitted all round. Michelin had a special on with £20 per tyre discount so 4 x 225 60 r18 "w" rated XL tyres worked out cheaper than the 'h" rated Goodyear tyres at Costco. It will be interesting to see how the grip compares as the tread pattern is quite different to a regular tyre. So the Dunlops that are standard fitment on the Rav HEV managed 33K miles - might have got another few thousand miles but happy to change at this point.

[Hybrid21]

Hi David, keep us updated with your findings and comments 👍

[NASY]

David, would be really interested to hear how you get on with the new tyres, especially with regards to not just grip and roll, but also comfort over ruts and quietness. Tyres are such an important feature on any car but I feel that one with high ground clearance, high power and over 2 tonnes weight really is putting its tyres under absolute scrutiny and they really need to deliver.

[Dushio]

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